So trains should slow to a crawl in case negligent or incapacitated bus drivers decide to ram them in order to save lives? To say its a factor implies it is something that should be changed.
Via train, Ottawa city bus collide; 6 people dead
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So trains should slow to a crawl in case negligent or incapacitated bus drivers decide to ram them in order to save lives? To say its a factor implies it is something that should be changed.
It's something that should be considered when deciding how to set speed limits of trains through cities, definitely, and certainly not irrelevant to the article.
The fact of the matter is, there will always be accidents. There will always be negligent and/or incapacitated drivers. You have to plan for that as well as for everything going as planned. That's the sort of risk management that city councils, transportation officials, and civil planners, look at.
Ive been on a few OC Transpo buses that stopped running randomly over the last 4 years or so. If that can happen without much warning I wouldnt be too surprised other things could go wrong on them.
My father is a railroad engineer and had a similar accident a few years ago. Actually more than a few - probably 5-7 years ago. He saw a transport coming for the crossing and it wasnt slowing down. There was nothing he could do because he was too close to the crossing. The transport hit about three cars behind the engine causing a massive derailment. There is now a pretty good sized field there where there used to be bush. The transport was crushed and didnt look much better than the bus in this thread. Somehow the driver survived though. Had the train not been moving it probably would have only knocked one car off the tracks instead of about 15. My father was lucky. Had he been going a bit slower and the transport had hit the engine instead - people would have died for sure. This was near Windy Lake about 45 minutes west of Sudbury.
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When she was little and asked what she wanted for Christmas my mum replied: "a mended orange" because fruit was so scarce they always had to share......
Mended?
Or is it simply the source of the comment that tickled your idiot bone?
You sure have a warped sense of ha ha. There hasn't been any other train incidents between July and now? I find it very hard to believe there hasn't been.
Or is it simply the source of the comment that tickled your idiot bone?
Many of the trains I've been on tend to crawl through the populated areas with the exception of areas that are fenced off. But this is not a populated area, not really. There's Nepean, then vast fields, then Barrhaven. It's a completely open area.
Probably not Canadian ones. Even if there are, this has been the worst one.
Glad to know you're okay.
Caught some bits of news that sounded like someone was trying to say trains are evil,trotting out BS stats on how dangerous crossings are.Like to see some of those goomers survive when there was nothing but crossed 3x5,no bells or gates.Christ
As a sidebar of sorts,The Queensway with a skiff of snow is plenty dangerous thanks.
As a sidebar of sorts,The Queensway with a skiff of snow is plenty dangerous thanks.
All six victims of Ottawa bus crash now ID'd
Megan Gillis, QMI Agency
Sep 19, 2013 , Last Updated: 3:01 PM ET
All six victims killed when a Ottawa transit bus crashed into a passenger train have now been identified as officials continued their probe Thursday morning.
They are: Michael Bleakney, 57, Connor Boyd, 21, Karen Krzyzewski, 53, Kyle Nash, 21, Rob More, 35, Dave Woodard, 45.
Woodard, a nearly 10-year veteran of OC Transpo, was driving the bus,
His devastated widow, Terry, said she is sure the accident wasn’t her husband’s fault. He was a trained and experienced driver with no health problems and a clean record, she said.
“I want to say please don’t blame him,” Terry told QMI Agency on Thursday morning. “It’s crazy because he wouldn’t have a made a mistake.
“Only one person will know (what really happened) and it’s him and he brought it with him,” she said.
Carleton University students Boyd and Nash were friends and graduates of John McCrae Secondary School in the Barrhaven area of the city.
Friends took to social media to express their shock and sadness.
“I’m utterly destroyed,” said one friend on Twitter, who said they’d been friends since age seven.
“Rest in Peace Connor Boyd, you always knew how to make me smile when I was down,” Brittany Bedford tweeted. “Gone but never forgotten.”
All but one of the three dozen people who were taken to hospital had been released by Thursday morning.
Investigators now have the locomotive event recorders — also known as the black boxes — from both the train and the bus.
The Transportation Safety Board doesn’t typically investigate bus crashes so it may take longer for them to determine what information they can get from the bus’s recorder, TSB spokeswoman Julie Leroux said.
They will also get the data recorder to make sure the signals at the level crossing were working properly, although witnesses told QMI Agency on Wednesday the bus crashed through the barriers, which were down and had lights flashing.
The TSB will also interview passengers on the bus and train, witnesses who observed the crash and the crew of the train.
“It’s going to help us focus on specific parts of the investigation,” Leroux said. “Right now, we investigate all the possibilities. We haven’t ruled out anything yet. We are going to go through all the information we have and see where the investigation will lead us.”
It’s too soon to tell how long that will take, she said.
Canada: All six victims of Ottawa bus crash now ID'd
It'll be a while before we know anything for sure but in an earlier article the bus driver's widow made this statement:
So we shall see where it all ends up. Grim and just so very, very tragic.
Megan Gillis, QMI Agency
Sep 19, 2013 , Last Updated: 3:01 PM ET
All six victims killed when a Ottawa transit bus crashed into a passenger train have now been identified as officials continued their probe Thursday morning.
They are: Michael Bleakney, 57, Connor Boyd, 21, Karen Krzyzewski, 53, Kyle Nash, 21, Rob More, 35, Dave Woodard, 45.
Woodard, a nearly 10-year veteran of OC Transpo, was driving the bus,
His devastated widow, Terry, said she is sure the accident wasn’t her husband’s fault. He was a trained and experienced driver with no health problems and a clean record, she said.
“I want to say please don’t blame him,” Terry told QMI Agency on Thursday morning. “It’s crazy because he wouldn’t have a made a mistake.
“Only one person will know (what really happened) and it’s him and he brought it with him,” she said.
Carleton University students Boyd and Nash were friends and graduates of John McCrae Secondary School in the Barrhaven area of the city.
Friends took to social media to express their shock and sadness.
“I’m utterly destroyed,” said one friend on Twitter, who said they’d been friends since age seven.
“Rest in Peace Connor Boyd, you always knew how to make me smile when I was down,” Brittany Bedford tweeted. “Gone but never forgotten.”
All but one of the three dozen people who were taken to hospital had been released by Thursday morning.
Investigators now have the locomotive event recorders — also known as the black boxes — from both the train and the bus.
The Transportation Safety Board doesn’t typically investigate bus crashes so it may take longer for them to determine what information they can get from the bus’s recorder, TSB spokeswoman Julie Leroux said.
They will also get the data recorder to make sure the signals at the level crossing were working properly, although witnesses told QMI Agency on Wednesday the bus crashed through the barriers, which were down and had lights flashing.
The TSB will also interview passengers on the bus and train, witnesses who observed the crash and the crew of the train.
“It’s going to help us focus on specific parts of the investigation,” Leroux said. “Right now, we investigate all the possibilities. We haven’t ruled out anything yet. We are going to go through all the information we have and see where the investigation will lead us.”
It’s too soon to tell how long that will take, she said.
Canada: All six victims of Ottawa bus crash now ID'd
It'll be a while before we know anything for sure but in an earlier article the bus driver's widow made this statement:
Canada: Crash 'wasn't his fault': Bus driver's widow
So we shall see where it all ends up. Grim and just so very, very tragic.