Very Interesting article I found: Canadian vs. American

eh1eh

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I'm havin' a steak tomorrow and some beer. Ya man, fcukin 'A'. When I have my heart attack, free bypass surgery. Fcukin "A". Health insurance in the states is almost as much as my mortgage payment. Who can afford two mortgages. Not 'Joe Public' that's who.
I just couldn't live in such a nasty society. Maybe I'm just all soft from all this free healthcare but I don't care. I feel relatively safe.
 

JLM

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I'm havin' a steak tomorrow and some beer. Ya man, fcukin 'A'. When I have my heart attack, free bypass surgery. Fcukin "A". Health insurance in the states is almost as much as my mortgage payment. Who can afford two mortgages. Not 'Joe Public' that's who.
I just couldn't live in such a nasty society. Maybe I'm just all soft from all this free healthcare but I don't care. I feel relatively safe.

Clever f*****g post. So you want to be a twit and exacerbate the problem for others to pay. :lol:
 

Cannuck

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I'm havin' a steak tomorrow and some beer. Ya man, fcukin 'A'. When I have my heart attack, free bypass surgery. Fcukin "A". Health insurance in the states is almost as much as my mortgage payment. Who can afford two mortgages. Not 'Joe Public' that's who.
I just couldn't live in such a nasty society. Maybe I'm just all soft from all this free healthcare but I don't care. I feel relatively safe.

Free health care. Holy crap!!! Where do you live? Here in Alberta we pay close to $5500 per person per year. I haven't got all the figures in front of me but I guess that's close to $15,000/household which is probably close to an average mortgage payment.
 

JLM

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Free health care. Holy crap!!! Where do you live? Here in Alberta we pay close to $5500 per person per year. I haven't got all the figures in front of me but I guess that's close to $15,000/household which is probably close to an average mortgage payment.

Geez- you are being grossly ripped off, in B.C. the premiums are approx. $108 per month for a family. That doesn't include dental though.
 

Cannuck

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Geez- you are being grossly ripped off, in B.C. the premiums are approx. $108 per month for a family. That doesn't include dental though.

We have no premiums here but the provincial budget is 38 billion of which 44% goes to health care for 3 million people. I think your health is 16.5 billion so your premiums don't cover it.
 

JLM

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We have no premiums here but the provincial budget is 38 billion of which 44% goes to health care for 3 million people. I think your health is 16.5 billion so your premiums don't cover it.

I think you may be on to something. I've always said if health care is going to be affordable people are going to have to be willing to pay for what it's worth to them. I could never imagine people complaining about $108 a month to cover the most important asset for their family (like it's probably less than the average family spends on restaurant meals in a month) Of course what really drives it up is things like the whiners running to emergency for a stubbed toe.
 

Cannuck

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You seem to pay a lot less per person in BC. I wonder why that is. Does the province manage ambulance service?
 

JLM

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You seem to pay a lot less per person in BC. I wonder why that is. Does the province manage ambulance service?

Unless you are on welfare I think in B.C. when you call an ambulance the cost (or at least part of it) is out of your dime.
 

Cannuck

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Unless you are on welfare I think in B.C. when you call an ambulance the cost (or at least part of it) is out of your dime.

Who runs the system though? In Alberta, outside the major cities, ambulance was pretty much volunteer until the provincial government decided that wasn't good enough. Now the provincial government has taken control. As for who pays for a ride, the same thing applies here except for air ambulance.
 

JLM

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Who runs the system though? In Alberta, outside the major cities, ambulance was pretty much volunteer until the provincial government decided that wasn't good enough. Now the provincial government has taken control. As for who pays for a ride, the same thing applies here except for air ambulance.

It's provincially run- no volunteers as far as I know.
 

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''There is one huge difference Canadians have a social conscience and America has little to none.''

Actually, many Yanks do have a social conscience. But all you ever hear is from the vocal right wingers as libs are just too timid to speak out as the right wingers do. As taxpayers we paid for Europe's health care through the Marshall Plan and we continue to pay for Israel's health coverage today. But the same who love paying these taxes for those forms of support are very vocal about voicing their hatred for Obamacare, while applauding the many deaths of those who succumb from lack of insurance thanks to Republicare.
 

Cannuck

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''There is one huge difference Canadians have a social conscience and America has little to none.''

Actually, many Yanks do have a social conscience. But all you ever hear is from the vocal right wingers as libs are just too timid to speak out as the right wingers do.

That's funny. I wonder what Michael Moore would think of you calling him timid.
 

Icarus27k

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I find it fascinating when non-Americans talk about America. I can't help it. (And of course, I mean that in the most innocent, non-insulting way possible.)
 

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Just to turn the tables around on all the anti-Americans in here:

If Canada is so great and the US so evil, would Canadians not want to make the ultimate sacrifice by joining with the US so as to infuse the evil US with some of our greatness so as to make the new nation even greater? Or are we too selfish and shallow to be willing to share our supposed material greateness with anyone?
 

Icarus27k

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I guess what I mean is Americans often talk amongst themselves about what the proper place in the world is for their country. But listening to an outsider's opinion is foreign (no pun intended). The outsider/non-American comes from a perspective than none of the Americans initially think about coming from.
 

Cliffy

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I guess what I mean is Americans often talk amongst themselves about what the proper place in the world is for their country. But listening to an outsider's opinion is foreign (no pun intended). The outsider/non-American comes from a perspective than none of the Americans initially think about coming from.
Pretty hard to see the world through someone else' eyes.

To me, people are just people but I think Americans are getting hosed by their own government just as much as some countries in the third world are and have been for a hundred years or more. I don't believe you guys have any more freedom or democracy than we do, or anybody else. Governments are beholding to their puppet masters not their citizens. the sooner people get that those personalities that act in Washington and Ottawa are not the ones in control of these countries, the sooner there will be revolution and people will take back their lives from the slave masters. But for some strange reason, they would rather pretend that politics is real and blame the actors.
 

Cannuck

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"A swallow does not a summer make".

Lewis Black, Jodie Foster, Sean Penn, Drew Barrymore, Danny Devito, Ellen Degenerous, Sharon Stone, Bill Maher, Stephen Colbert, Martin Sheen.....

Do you find any of them timid?