US Kills Your Child in Afghanistan...You Get $1500
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No apology coming, perhaps seeing loved ones blown up is enough to make them dislike America all by itself. You suggesting that it only makes the acceptable to be brainwashed into disliking the US, like your brainwashing concerning 911.
"Unlikly...whats more likely is whispers from the Islamists begins to take root in the psyche of those who have loss and want revenge."
See Bear the apology was accepted, lol.
Should he now apologize to all Muslims about hating America is only the result of Islamic brainwashing rather than coming from having friends and family blown to bits?
Should he now apologize to all Muslims about hating America is only the result of Islamic brainwashing rather than coming from having friends and family blown to bits?
What apology? You haven't the capacity to admit error. At least Avro does, which goes a long way to show that the metal of his character is far superior to your own.
Why should he apologise for that?
It's true. I've actually seen it with my own eyes. You only need upset one, to have a multitude attack you. No matter the reason.
but the reason that is not important for you is important for them, you should understand what they deal with and then you can manage the relation between the one you are talking about in what way you like...
Actually, that is not what I meant.
I meant to say and thought it was quite clear, is that when a stray bomb wipes out someones family it makes it easier for the Islamist to take hold of that persons will. Even Bush was able to lead the nation to an illegal war based on this.
Recruitment lines have gotten longer since the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions for that reason and patriotism.
That also seems to be the case with Israel firsters like you and Avro. Your whole point of your last few posts is only to support of Avro.
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Having aided in the securing of an Airport, a hospital and two safe havens in Bosnia, I have a well balance view of Muslims in general.
It would be safe to say, I dislike them, in general. And here's why...
On foot patrol through the safe haven in Srebrenica, I came upon a little girl sitting on her Grandmothers lap. The poor thing, dirty, bloodied and crying inconsolably. I took from my pack a "pookie" teddy bear my wife had given me for good luck and gave it to her.
Not 24 hours later, while assisting in the distribution of bottled water, I watched a man sneak into the line 4 times, taking 2 bottles each time. I confronted the man with the aid of our interpreter.
Within minutes, I was confronted with an angry mob of Muslims. Including guess who? The Grandmother, who joined in and spat at me and my bruthers for having the audacity to stop a man from ripping them off, by taking more then his fair share of water.
So please, spare me the song and dance on Muslims. I know what they've had to endure, I was part of a team that tried to spare them of it. Only to be spat at, shot at and otherwise threatened by both sides.
I agree, foriegn policy has a direct correlation to blowback. But if you look at preceding wars, great destruction can lead to the breaking of the will of the people, you are trying to help. I believe this is a must.
Thus three block warfare should be shelved, all out war, including carpet bombing, until such time as the people fold. Is the order of the day. Until this level of combat is reached, we will continue to send young men and women off to die, ad nauseum.
All the while building greater resentment in those we are supposedly trying to aid.
Those aren't 'strays' they hit what they are aimed at, get used to the idea that your heroes just don't care how many innocents they kill. They never plan on leaving and the killings will never stop. Same mentality Israel has, kill them all, even the little kids cause they will just hate us for killing their families. And that can't be done without leaving the country.
Rather than their resentment being 'their fault' you might want to look into the carpet-bombing thing' as being a factor in the fall in popularity and buildup in resentment. Muslim extremists in Afghanistan are there because that is where America installed them back in the late 70's.
Perhaps your view could be modified if you spent some time with them in a social setting when you didn't have a weapon, perhaps at a large wedding in Afghanistan or Iraq.
Did you ask the old man where the rest of his family was, perhaps it was NATO's weapons that put them in that position and you offered a stuffed toy to a little girl who had just lost all her other living-family members.
Let me guess where you heard that? (hint, when 'they' say they are telling the truth .... 'they' aren't, lol)
That is the tried and true method used in a lot of the past, looks like our advancing past that stage is just a ... wait for it ... another lie. Fed to us just to make us feel better about ourselves, after all, we quickly condemn in others what we do ourselves but on a much grander scale.
Try the concept of no warfare, like when you (American or supporter) are in a foreign country and somebody from that country wants to harm you it is you who should leave. It would work the same in their country. As it is things work differently if they are threatened by one person they level 3 blocks. What is it now 8 yrs, it won't change it isn't designed to.
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CDNbear, i can understand how you feel. if i had been you , i would have disliked those kind of people in that situation but i would have controlled my nerve and tried to be patient and tolerant, i say again you should understand the feelings as you were in their shoes...they lost their families because they are Muslim not Christian so when they (who experienced the war for nothing) see anyone who are Christian or anyother , they try to reflect the same thing what they were forced to experience .being Muslim even in Europe doesn't stop the others from killing Muslim for no reasons and same in the other countries with the majority of Muslims... the prejudice that makes Muslim crazy about the others is just constructed by ... , you know "by who". Muslim have great prejudice towards you like your prejudice towards them .