US Invasion of Iraq-Updates

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no1important said:
In a bid to appease the Sunni Arabs, the U.S. military announced Saturday that nearly 1,000 security detainees have been released from Abu Ghraib prison in the past several days. Many have been languishing in jail for months without being charged.

Release me from CBC

Anyone know why you can't link to Reuters stories? It's twice now I can't. It keeps saying no such story.

can't answer you question about links not "working".......but that is not the only site where this happens. Ergo...I end up posting the article as a quote.
 

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no1important said:
Bush calls for US resolve on Iraq

"Our efforts in Iraq and the broader Middle East will require more time, more sacrifice and continued resolve," he said in his weekly radio address.

So what does Broader Middle East mean? To me it means Iran and Syria are next on the list.

Well, if governments in Iran and Syria are involved in supporting any of the terrorist activity in Iraq, then yes, they should be next on the list.
 

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Nascar_James said:
no1important said:
Bush calls for US resolve on Iraq

"Our efforts in Iraq and the broader Middle East will require more time, more sacrifice and continued resolve," he said in his weekly radio address.

So what does Broader Middle East mean? To me it means Iran and Syria are next on the list.

Well, if governments in Iran and Syria are involved in supporting any of the terrorist activity in Iraq, then yes, they should be next on the list.

No surprise that YOU would be supporting a perpetual war , and perpetual inflamation of the ME with your warmongering , over aggressive and undiplomatic stance . Sheesh, you sure don't know when enough is enough, do you.?? Has it occurred to you that you can keep warring on nations progressively and only foster MORE terrorism.??? Isn't it enough that most of the world is royally ticked -dissed off at the US now?? Seems that people like you have embraced the myth that bush will be father protector and isolate the US into a safe little cocoon . Maybe the idea of isolating yourself further is a good one. But leave other nations well enough alone. This terrorist excuse is becoming lame and another tactic for the REAL agenda that the bushcons have in mind.

there was "terrorist activity" in London recently. following your irrational logic........you would be attacking London too. Hell, why don't you just nuke the entire planet......and then you can have this entire world to control. Wouldn't you just love that.??? Would you feel safer then??? Cannot believe that people like yourself are so insecure within yourselves. Cannot believe that people like you who prattle about courage......the land of the brave and all that propaganda........are so damned scared of their own shadow now. Something about coping skills comes to mind. Maybe too.......the US society has become far too easy and "soft".... but regardless.... until the US brings the Peace language back to the table.. ....the whole world is in a lot of trouble. (unfortunately the US could give one damn about the rest of the world..........as all that matters to them is the US and their pompous arrogance. and pride. )......and this latter part is the beginning of the end of the "empire" ......as the deterioration is taking place in small ways now.


How many PEOPLE must die before YOU don't feel threatened by "terrorist activity????? Or do you give a damn??? How much more destruction has to take place at the hands of the US ......before people like you feel "secure" again???

Each time you invade / or use military action......the terrorists rejoice as you are playing right into their hands. They want a "holy" war.......and you are happily obliging them. Go figure..... not too bright , is it??
 

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PoisonPete2 said:
Nascar_James said:


BRAVO !!! Excellent post. But don't expect much REASON/RATIONALITY from the original statement. To the bushcons ( disciples of the bush charade)....... just about everyone is a threat now. A tad skittish , ain't they?? They are seeing "terrorists" right along side of the boogeymen they fear. And the bushcon in the WH perpetutes this phenomena like clockwork/programming.

Key issue: the US had NO f***ing right to do what it did to Iraq. None!! And if Iran was such a threat to them ( a real one......) one doubts the US would have followed through .....as Iran has a vested interest in the region too and would have given the US a run for it's mouth and money. It stil might,

Don't think the world is going to continue to buckle under the US (G) threats now.......the world is wise to the US shananigans. (devious as they are).

quite curious to watch , the US over extend itself, its funds.... increase the national debt to horrific proportions, manipulate its way around a dangerous nasty path.......while pontificating its self righteous platitudes. Hypocrits. :twisted: .......ALL of them.
 

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Ocean Breeze said:
Nascar_James said:
no1important said:
Bush calls for US resolve on Iraq

"Our efforts in Iraq and the broader Middle East will require more time, more sacrifice and continued resolve," he said in his weekly radio address.

So what does Broader Middle East mean? To me it means Iran and Syria are next on the list.

Well, if governments in Iran and Syria are involved in supporting any of the terrorist activity in Iraq, then yes, they should be next on the list.

No surprise that YOU would be supporting a perpetual war , and perpetual inflamation of the ME with your warmongering , over aggressive and undiplomatic stance . Sheesh, you sure don't know when enough is enough, do you.?? Has it occurred to you that you can keep warring on nations progressively and only foster MORE terrorism.??? Isn't it enough that most of the world is royally ticked -dissed off at the US now?? Seems that people like you have embraced the myth that bush will be father protector and isolate the US into a safe little cocoon . Maybe the idea of isolating yourself further is a good one. But leave other nations well enough alone. This terrorist excuse is becoming lame and another tactic for the REAL agenda that the bushcons have in mind.

there was "terrorist activity" in London recently. following your irrational logic........you would be attacking London too. Hell, why don't you just nuke the entire planet......and then you can have this entire world to control. Wouldn't you just love that.??? Would you feel safer then??? Cannot believe that people like yourself are so insecure within yourselves. Cannot believe that people like you who prattle about courage......the land of the brave and all that propaganda........are so damned scared of their own shadow now. Something about coping skills comes to mind. Maybe too.......the US society has become far too easy and "soft".... but regardless.... until the US brings the Peace language back to the table.. ....the whole world is in a lot of trouble. (unfortunately the US could give one damn about the rest of the world..........as all that matters to them is the US and their pompous arrogance. and pride. )......and this latter part is the beginning of the end of the "empire" ......as the deterioration is taking place in small ways now.


How many PEOPLE must die before YOU don't feel threatened by "terrorist activity????? Or do you give a damn??? How much more destruction has to take place at the hands of the US ......before people like you feel "secure" again???

Each time you invade / or use military action......the terrorists rejoice as you are playing right into their hands. They want a "holy" war.......and you are happily obliging them. Go figure..... not too bright , is it??

I see ... so we should just cave in to the terrorists and have them control our lives. Nice plan, we give up our freedom to the terrorists. Well, I say ... no way! We will never cave in to terrorists, we will go after them till the ends of the world if we have to. They attacked us first, started the war and now we are going after them. As Winston Churchill once said ... "We Shall Never Surrender".
 

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Thats right your giving up your freedom to the terrorist Nascar :roll: Your own goverment Feck wake up man its painfully obvious who's gutting your constitution :roll:
 

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Nascar_James said:
Ocean Breeze said:
Nascar_James said:
no1important said:
Bush calls for US resolve on Iraq

"Our efforts in Iraq and the broader Middle East will require more time, more sacrifice and continued resolve," he said in his weekly radio address.

So what does Broader Middle East mean? To me it means Iran and Syria are next on the list.

Well, if governments in Iran and Syria are involved in supporting any of the terrorist activity in Iraq, then yes, they should be next on the list.

No surprise that YOU would be supporting a perpetual war , and perpetual inflamation of the ME with your warmongering , over aggressive and undiplomatic stance . Sheesh, you sure don't know when enough is enough, do you.?? Has it occurred to you that you can keep warring on nations progressively and only foster MORE terrorism.??? Isn't it enough that most of the world is royally ticked -dissed off at the US now?? Seems that people like you have embraced the myth that bush will be father protector and isolate the US into a safe little cocoon . Maybe the idea of isolating yourself further is a good one. But leave other nations well enough alone. This terrorist excuse is becoming lame and another tactic for the REAL agenda that the bushcons have in mind.

there was "terrorist activity" in London recently. following your irrational logic........you would be attacking London too. Hell, why don't you just nuke the entire planet......and then you can have this entire world to control. Wouldn't you just love that.??? Would you feel safer then??? Cannot believe that people like yourself are so insecure within yourselves. Cannot believe that people like you who prattle about courage......the land of the brave and all that propaganda........are so damned scared of their own shadow now. Something about coping skills comes to mind. Maybe too.......the US society has become far too easy and "soft".... but regardless.... until the US brings the Peace language back to the table.. ....the whole world is in a lot of trouble. (unfortunately the US could give one damn about the rest of the world..........as all that matters to them is the US and their pompous arrogance. and pride. )......and this latter part is the beginning of the end of the "empire" ......as the deterioration is taking place in small ways now.


How many PEOPLE must die before YOU don't feel threatened by "terrorist activity????? Or do you give a damn??? How much more destruction has to take place at the hands of the US ......before people like you feel "secure" again???

Each time you invade / or use military action......the terrorists rejoice as you are playing right into their hands. They want a "holy" war.......and you are happily obliging them. Go figure..... not too bright , is it??

I see ... so we should just cave in to the terrorists and have them control our lives. Nice plan, we give up our freedom to the terrorists. Well, I say ... no way! We will never cave in to terrorists, we will go after them till the ends of the world if we have to. They attacked us first, started the war and now we are going after them. As Winston Churchill once said ... "We Shall Never Surrender".

more bushcon spin. :roll: Who said anything about "caving in" to terrorists. They already won , and won big time. All one can do is come up with smart strategies to deal with them. This is the simplistic kind of ideology that does not begin to address the complexity of the issues. How many more invasions would you support in your " will not cave to terrorism"........when by invading other nations......you are caving in to them in living color.... (and just don't get it). Part of the terrorist agenda is a "holy" war .......and each time the US REACTS aggressively , it is feeding their objective. Each time the USG pisses a country off , it is feeding the "terrorist " objective. don't think this is THAT hard to comprehend. Just try thinking out of the bush box....and expand the horizens some . Bush has not only "caved" to terrorism.........he has fostered it and perpetuated the cycle of violence. Keep in mind.......bush is predictable. ....while any /all terrorist groups are not......and therefore have the advantage each time. Heck they don't have to "attack" for a long time .......and still remain a viable "threat" to society./world. Meanwhile , all bushcons have done is made a huge ass of themselves and if not so dangerous in their own way........would be the laughing stalk of the world. ( and in many ways they are )
 

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mrmom2 said:
Thats right your giving up your freedom to the terrorist Nascar :roll: Your own goverment Feck wake up man its painfully obvious who's gutting your constitution :roll:

You just don't get it do you? If someone hypothetically were to come into your house and attacked your family as the terrorists did on 9/11, would you simply leave well enough alone? No, absolutely not, you would go after those resposible wherever they run to and would not stop till justice is served. If we let the terrorists win, then yes, we have given up our freedom.
 

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They started the war and now we are finishing it!


oh crap. !! (what else can one say about something like this??)


Q: Do YOU comprehend the difference between a terror attack and WAR??? Seems Spain does, Britain does........and yet the USG Is too stupid to know the difference /or uses it to further its own WAR agenda. Face it , the US wants war right now........for varied and selfish reasons. The US LOVES war. All that testosterone and power through muscle. ! Can be addicting. Terrorist groups have done bush a big favor ......with 9-11. (if one believes the "official " story).
 

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Under your logic how come you haven't attacked Saudi Arabia thats were your so called Highjackers came from .Oh but wait some of those guys are still alive 8O You believe everything Bush tells ya don't you Nascar :p I mean he wouldn't lie would he :lol:
 

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If we let the terrorists win, then yes, we have given up our freedom.


the terrorists have already "won" and you are giving up more freedoms every day. ( the problem is ,that you simply don't see it ...........and it could come back and bite you in the gluteus maximus )


this is not some stupid game of win or lose........
 

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Reverend Blair said:
If somebody repeatedly killed your people and put in puppet dictators, what would you do, NASCAR?

Rev, in a war we will unfortunately always have civilian casualties, it has happened in any war. It can't be avoided. As to the puppet dictators, Iraq had an election not long ago, and despite attempts by the terrorists to disrupt it, the people of Iraq were able to exercise their right to vote, and they have picked their leaders.
 

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Nascar_James said:
Reverend Blair said:
If somebody repeatedly killed your people and put in puppet dictators, what would you do, NASCAR?

Rev, in a war we will unfortunately always have civilian casualties, it has happened in any war. It can't be avoided. As to the puppet dictators, Iraq had an election not long ago, and despite attempts by the terrorists to disrupt it, the people of Iraq were able to exercise their right to vote, and they have picked their leaders.

this is getting to be too funny. What page out of the bush bible did you copy and paste that from????

and you still have not answered the question pertaining to Terrorism vs Military (induced) WAR of choice. You say that the terrorists attacked the US......

The US attacked, invaded Iraq for no damned crtically valid reason. So this would make the US on par with terrorists. YOU BOTH are ATTACKERS. YOU both want war. You both are uncivilized.
 

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Nascar_James said:
I see ... so we should just cave in to the terrorists and have them control our lives. Nice plan, we give up our freedom to the terrorists. Well, I say ... no way! We will never cave in to terrorists, we will go after them till the ends of the world if we have to. They attacked us first, started the war and now we are going after them. As Winston Churchill once said ... "We Shall Never Surrender".

In 1995 a bomb exploded just outside of the Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City killing 168 people. This was done by:
a. Donald duck
b. The mayor of Surrey
c. American's Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

In 1999 12 students and a teacher were killed in Columbine hichschool by:
a. Arnold Palmer
b. Gonzo the Great.
c. American teenagers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

In 1996, 2 people were killed and 120 injured in Atlanta during the Olympics by a bomb planted by:
a. Lassie
b. Harry Houdini
c. American Eric Rudolph
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

From from 1978 to 1996, 3 people were killed and 18 injured by letter bombs created by:
a.The Thank's Giving Turkey
b. Ozzy Osbourne
c. American Theodore (Ted) Kaczynski
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

The answers are all "c".

Well Nacsar you seem to have home grown terrorists of your own, maybe the rest of the world should "invade" America, to stop terrorist threat? After all the "war on terror" is on.
 

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NASCAR, you need to learn the history of the Middle East, especially the USA's involvement there, since the end of WWI.

If you want to know why there are extremists trying to blow you up, the answer is in that history. They aren't jealous of freedoms or whatever line of Bushit you want to push. The US and Britain started this war in 1919. You just never took the time to learn about it.
 

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