US Invasion of Iraq-Updates

Ocean Breeze

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Re: RE: US Invasion of Iraq-Updates

Bubble said:
wasn't that Iraqy guy and bush familt friends?

do you mean SH ??? Seems the USG supported him, when it suited the US purpose.

(it would not be a stretch to say....that the US is a traitor to Iraq..)
 

jimmoyer

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Support the Iraqis?? You bet. Support their evolution into an independant nation which retains its culture, its uniqueness.??? You bet.
-------------------------------------------Ocean Breeze.

Okay Ocean Breeze.

Here's the plan.

American troops leave.

Then what?

You actually think the clowns will stop ?

You actually think the citizens of the world will vote for any leader who will send in troops to stop those clowns?

I don't think so, Ocean Breeze.

The world is too comfortable, fighting to keep its own benefits.

The world cares enough to send in troops after the Americans leave ? You citizens of other nations will vote to do that ???

Yeah.

Right.

You bet.

As long as America is there, the world will tut tut on it high horse and do nothing.

And the proof is that even if America is not there, the world will certainly not send in troops to keep the security. Instead the world will wish for someone like Saddam to keep the peace instead.

How ironic.
 

Ocean Breeze

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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050622/wl_nm/security_iraq_cia_dc_4


Iraq , the new training ground for "terrorists"??? (CIA)

One might not be able to access the info via the link so here it is:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The CIA believes the Iraq insurgency poses an international threat and may produce better-trained Islamic terrorists than the 1980s Afghanistan war that gave rise to Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, officials said on Wednesday.

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A classified report from the U.S. spy agency says Iraqi and foreign fighters are developing a broad range of skills, from car bombings and assassinations to coordinated conventional attacks on police and military targets, officials said.

Once the insurgency ends, Islamic militants are likely to disperse as highly organized battle-hardened combatants capable of operating throughout the Arab-speaking world and in other regions including Europe.

Fighters leaving Iraq would primarily pose a challenge for their countries of origin including Saudi Arabia and Jordan.

But the May report, which has been widely circulated in the intelligence community, also cites a potential threat to the United States.

"You have people coming to the action with anti-U.S. sentiment ... And since they're Iraqi or foreign Arabs or to some degree Kurds, they have more communities they can blend into outside Iraq," said a U.S. counterterrorism official, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the report's classified status.

Canada also released an intelligence report saying the Sunni insurgency in Iraq posed a global problem given that most of the world's Sunni Muslims live outside the Middle East.

"The current war in Iraq is creating a whole new set of extremists," the Canadian Security Intelligence Service said in a briefing document obtained by Reuters.

Meanwhile, a Pentagon official said the CIA report appeared to be a synthesis of intelligence information already known to military commanders in the Gulf region.

Iraq has become a magnet for Islamic militants similar to Soviet-occupied Afghanistan two decades ago and Bosnia in the 1990s, U.S. officials say.

Bin Laden won prominence as a U.S. ally in the war against Soviet troops in Afghanistan. He later used Afghanistan as the training center for his al Qaeda network, which is blamed for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on Washington and New York.

President Bush justified the invasion of Iraq in part by charging that Saddam Hussein was supporting al Qaeda. A U.S. inquiry later found no collaboration between prewar Iraq and the bin Laden network.

But since the invasion, Jordanian-born militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi has emerged as a key insurgent figure and pledged his allegiance to bin Laden.

While the Afghan war against the Soviets was largely fought on a rural battlefield, the CIA report said Iraq is providing extremists with more comprehensive skills including training in operations devised for populated urban areas.

"You have everything from bombings and assassinations to more or less conventional attacks," the counterterrorism official said.

"The urban warfare experience, for people facing fairly tight police and military activity at close quarters, should enable them to operate in a wider range of settings."

Vice President Dick Cheney has argued that the insurgency is in its last throes, despite reports that the guerrillas have grown more deadly.

CIA Director Porter Goss told Time magazine that the insurgency was not quite in its last throes, "but I think they are very close to it."
 

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mrmom2 said:
Hey Ocean what did you think about the Iran article 8O you have to click on the shocked smiley in the last post :?


hi..

I have read that in several sources now. Would not be surprised to find out it is true. Don't think the bush regime can afford to do an "invasion" as they did in Iraq.....so it would not be surprising for them to employ other "tactics" (devious/underhanded bunch that they are :twisted:
 

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just in.....

Iraqi prankster, Khalid Al-Beadle, caused a “navigational mishap” in West Baghdad during the recent “liberation”. Al-Beadle’s favourite joke, changing the direction of roadsigns, confused coalition troops who were attempting to embed themselves in the pockets of resistance around Baghdad. “We had got as far as Poland before any of the guys realised what had happened,” admitted Marine Commander Frank McYoyo of the 1st Walking-the-Dog division, “we were a little upset so shot some of those commie bastards before about-turning so it didn’t just look like we’d done it by mistake.” Senior officials at US Central Command denied any official invasion of the Baltic state since “every idiot knows you go for Austria first”.
 

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peapod said:
just in.....

Iraqi prankster, Khalid Al-Beadle, caused a “navigational mishap” in West Baghdad during the recent “liberation”. Al-Beadle’s favourite joke, changing the direction of roadsigns, confused coalition troops who were attempting to embed themselves in the pockets of resistance around Baghdad. “We had got as far as Poland before any of the guys realised what had happened,” admitted Marine Commander Frank McYoyo of the 1st Walking-the-Dog division, “we were a little upset so shot some of those commie bastards before about-turning so it didn’t just look like we’d done it by mistake.” Senior officials at US Central Command denied any official invasion of the Baltic state since “every idiot knows you go for Austria first”.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

hot damn.....laughing out loud now. On this note......time to walk the doggies....

good job Peapod. ( sweetpea???) :wink:
 

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I argued last week that militias have become a fact of life in Iraq, and that they are helping maintain stability in the Kurdish north and Shiite south of the country. Given that, I said, these groups may buy time for the only viable path to a stable, democratic Iraq, which is the slow process of building a national army. I noted that, given the spread of militias, an equivalent local force in Sunni areas is inevitable and appropriate.

Those comments prompted an e-mail exchange with a U.S. military commander. He argued that the range of local security solutions varies widely across Iraq. Shiite militias may be keeping the peace in Basra and Nasiriyah, but in Karbala, Najaf, Babil and Kut, it's the local police force, led by powerful local chiefs, that is dominant. So let me amend my earlier comment: U.S. policy shouldn't embrace militias, per se, but it should recognize the patchwork of temporary local security solutions and use it to stabilize Iraq until a national army is ready.

davidignatius@washpost.com
 

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Did you make that all up yourself Peapod ?

You cannot be serious???? no I did not write that myself 8O I said....just in....that means Just in from the new world odour..........odour out of chaos! I am reporting hot of the teletype.....I am only bringing the news!