US Gay Marriage- The walls come a tumbling down

[coldstream]

Morality, Yah:

That's exactly what has been overturned is defining morality in the Post-Christian era. And it has devolved into one defined by moral relativism, radical individualism, and licentious gratification. More over it is defined by a concept of 'rights' unencumbered with a comensurate responsibility to the rights of others or the community as a whole.

All of that is fragmenting society.. morally, culturally and economicallly.

Hence it develops specially designated 'victims groups'.. who are deemed to have special protections.. and designated 'oppressor groups' whose motives are deemed to be participants in 'systemic' exploitation regardless of individual actions. It seems to have reached an inevitable summit of absurdity in the legitimization of the mental and moral pathology of homosexuality.

It is a cauldron of contradiction and special privilege.. for which the 'end' justifies any means. That is the seed of tyranny.

Arthur C. Clarke was as a bad a moral philosopher.. as he was a writer. He fails to realize that Civilizations and all their attributes.. are always based on a religious consensus.

 

[Twila]

I'm just waiting for traditional marriage to be destroyed. Bout half the states allow gay marriage now, and near as I can tell Fred and Martha are still plugging away. There's even some signs they decided Adam and Steve next door are pretty nice folks.

I'm quite glad "traditional" marriage has been or is being "destroyed". If things didn't change and tradition was adhered to then the old rule that stated my husband can beat me as a means of control and discipline would still be legal.

Tradition. Pffft. a most dangerous word...goes well with the most dangerous sentence in existence: "but we've always done it this way"

 

[Sal]

When we learn to meet a person, look them in the eye and love them for how they treat us and support us, and learn to stay the hell out of their business unless they invite us in, when we learn that, it will become the world that Christ envisioned, hoped for and tried to tell us we had the potential to be.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I'm quite glad "traditional" marriage has been or is being "destroyed". If things didn't change and tradition was adhered to then the old rule that stated my husband can beat me as a means of control and discipline would still be legal.

You mean he can't nowadays? Damn socialist Canadians!

Tradition. Pffft. a most dangerous word...goes well with the most dangerous sentence in existence: "but we've always done it this way"

Funny how most of the folks who celebrate the sanctity of how things used to be (which is a fiction in the first place) like to do it on the brand-new computer they brought home in their 2014 Ford.

 

[WLDB]

Without that form of marriage there are no children born to carry on the 'civilization'. Perhaps other marriages are natures form of birth control.

Im living proof that that is total BS. I was born a year before my parents were married. They divorced a few years later. My sister is not married and has 2 kids. I will never marry as I have no interest in the institution but I would like to have kids someday whether my own or adopted. Marriage isn't needed for that. Never really was, it was something forced on people. Marry, or be more or less ostracized for having a child out of wedlock. Those were really f*cked up times.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

That's exactly what has been overturned is defining morality in the Post-Christian era. And it has devolved into one defined by moral relativism, radical individualism, and licentious gratification. More over it is defined by a concept of 'rights' unencumbered with a comensurate responsibility to the rights of others or the community as a whole.

All of that is fragmenting society.. morally, culturally and economicallly.

Hence it develops specially designated 'victims groups'.. who are deemed to have special protections.. and designated 'oppressor groups' whose motives are deemed to be participants in 'systemic' exploitation regardless of individual actions. It seems to have reached an inevitable summit of absurdity in the legitimization of the mental and moral pathology of homosexuality.

It is a cauldron of contradiction and special privilege.. for which the 'end' justifies any means. That is the seed of tyranny.

Arthur C. Clarke was as a bad a moral philosopher.. as he was a writer. He fails to realize that Civilizations and all their attributes.. are always based on a religious consensus.

You're not in a very good position to criticise Clarke.

And Thomas Jefferson also wrote that morality is independent of religion.

So, a brilliant scientist and writer and a great social and political philosopher. Too bad they just ain't as smart as a Canadian internet whiner.

 

[Goober]

Yep- I gotta agree.

 

[BornRuff]

Arthur C. Clarke was as a bad a moral philosopher.. as he was a writer. He fails to realize that Civilizations and all their attributes.. are always based on a religious consensus.

All of your arguments come down to "It is wrong because I say so".

There is no logic behind this. Civilizations have sprung up out of thousands of different "religious consensuses" and the consensuses constantly change throughout time. There is nothing unique from simple logic and static between all the different flavors of religion that can explain the success of any civilization.

Religion is a tool used by those in power to get people to do what they want. Not something that in itself does anything.