Union threatens strike if employer doesn't donate to anti-Harper fund
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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOT NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just TYPICAL union HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is an older article illustrating the dangerous LIE-beral habit of betting tax revenue for tomorrow against THEIR immediate political needs - and blighting the future of our kids in the process! And it reminds us of why the Ford govt is wrestling with that $16 BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With some comments of my own in brackets):
Wynne government ignored warnings about borrowing billions to fund hydro rate cuts, committee told
By Rob Ferguson, Queen's Park Bureau
Published: Tues., Oct. 16, 2018
The defeated Liberal government ignored numerous warnings from top civil servants that its scheme to borrow billions to lower electricity prices a full 25 per cent was a “bad idea,” says the former deputy minister of energy.
Serge Imbrogno told a legislative committee Tuesday bureaucrats were asked for options to further reduce hydro rates by former premier Kathleen Wynne’s government in 2016 after waiving the 8 per cent HST on hydro bills, but the financing plan came out of the blue from the office of then-energy minister Glenn Thibeault.
(There could only be ONE SOLUTION to rising electricity rates that did not involve borrowing and that solution was NOT acceptable to LIE-berals- for the simple reason that LIE-berals desperately needed to turn our electrical system into a giant slush fund from which to pay off billions of dollars in IOU`s that LIE-berals had issued to civil service union Hogs in exchange for their votes! Cutting Hog wages is NEVER a LIE-beral option!!!!!!!!!!!)
(Sadly we did not have the money when the IOU`s were issued and we do not have the money now either! And Wynne-bag LIE-berals are out of power due to their ill-advised attempts to honour their insane Hog IOU`s by gouging us on electricity!)
The former Liberal government’s plan to fund hydro rate cuts came as a shock to senior bureaucrats, a committee heard on Oct. 16, 2018.
(OH- such a surprise! Hogs KNOW how much gravy they were promised and how short was the supply on hand! LIE-berals KNEW they could not honour the IOU`s without breaking our economy- but Hogs do not care!)
“We were a little bit shocked because it was pushing out costs today to future ratepayers,” Imbrogno, now deputy minister of the environment, said at Premier Doug Ford’s select committee on financial transparency examining the $15 billion provincial deficit.
“More debt, higher cost going forward. Someone has to pay that.”
(But LIE-berals always asume they will be able to jump clear of the fiscal WRECK! No doubt the election of Doug Ford came as a horrible shock!)
Both Imbrogno and cabinet secretary Steve Orsini — who also headed the civil service under Wynne — testified they repeatedly expressed worries about the feasibility of the scheme to the Liberals, including in briefing notes to cabinet warning of higher costs and accounting issues later red-flagged by Auditor General Bonnie Lysyk.
(Always arrogant LIE-berals simply assumed they were the smartest people in the room and that their B.S. would baffle public opinion!)
She issued a special report in 2017 that determined questionable accounting and financing for the plan will result in up to $4 billion more in interest costs over 30 years because the Liberal government was trying to keep $39.4 billion in borrowing off the province’s books.
(LIE-berals are of course frantic to keep the TRUE scale of LIE-beral pension promises HIDDEN from the public- to prevent a panic and subsequent public rage at having been so completely ROBBED to pay for LIE-beral and Hog gravy!)
MPPs investigating Ontario’s finances demand e-mails, documents from Wynne Liberals
Top staff and directors at Ontario electricity agencies given legal protection for implementing hydro rate cut, committee told.
(Oh yeah- there are various LEGAL PROHIBITIONS against “uttering false documents in public” in exchange for personal gains and LIE-beral efforts to mis-represent the cost of their electrical mess and the size of their deficits would seem to fit that concept of uttering illegal documents for personal gain!0
(After all, LIE-berals expected to WIN the June election thanks to their claims of having balanced the budget- though in truth they actually had a $16 billion dollar deficit- and then we should condemn their claim to have reduced electricity cost - WITHOUT ADMITTING they were acquiring MORE DEBT and increasing the long term cost! The production and public dissemination of such deliberately FALSE accounting claims certainly seems criminal to this disgusted tax payer!)
(No wonder civil service Hogs wanted immunity from prosecution in exchange for keeping silent about LIE-beral plans! Both LIE-beral statements- about their budget and about their final electricity bill appear to this disgusted and cynical tax payer to be utterly and deliberately deceptive and thus worthy of criminal charges!)
(The final insult in all this LIE-beral crap came in spring 2018 when a political science professor told us “that political campaign promises do not have to be true”- right after Ontari-owe college and university professors DEMANDED an immediate 50 percent pay raise from Wynne-bag LIE-berals- and got told to shut up and sit down- TILL AFTER THE ELECTION that LIE-berals still hoped to win!)
Here is an article illustrating the sort of future we can expect if LIE-berals and civil service union HOGS are allowed to continue dominating our govt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With some comments of my own in brackets):
Italian policeman who clocked in for work in his underwear is sacked
Alberto Muraglia became unwitting symbol of Italy's problem with absenteeism
By Nick Squires, Rome. 12:29PM GMT 25 Jan 2016. Telegraph News.
A policeman who became an unwitting symbol of Italy's ingrained problem with absenteeism has finally been sacked, four months after he was covertly filmed clocking on for work in his underpants and then heading back to bed.
Alberto Muraglia was able to punch his time card wearing only a pair of Y-fronts and a saggy T-shirt because he lived in a flat above his office, in a council building in the Italian Riviera town of San Remo.
The grainy black-and-white image of the portly municipal policeman clocking on has become a symbol of Italy’s struggle with the thousands of “fannulloni” or slackers in its public administration. On occasion Mr Muraglia could not even rouse himself from his bed and instead sent his wife or young daughter to stamp his card on his behalf.
After being exposed by a covert police investigation in October, along with dozens of other council employees who clocked on then headed to the shops or the beach, Mr Muraglia has been sacked by the town council. But he has vowed to appeal the decision, even enlisting royalty in his fight to be reinstated.
For 20 years he says, he worked as a summer deckhand-cum-cook on a yacht for Albert II, who was King of the Belgians until he abdicated for health reasons in 2013 in favour of his son, Philippe.
"I’ll admit, I was a bit sloppy. I made a mistake, but I swear I was on duty nonetheless" stated Alberto Muraglia
The former king has emailed him to ask him about the furore. “He said that he would continue to have faith in me,” said Mr Muraglia.
“My apartment, where I live with my family, is in the same building as my office and the timecard machine. “When I punched my time card in my underwear I had no idea that I would expose myself and the council to such a bad image.”
(I say its OBVIOUS that this guy SKIPPED the I.Q. portion of the police exam!)
He claimed that he was being made a scapegoat for the dozens of other council employees who had, for years, also bunked off work. More than 40 are being investigated for skiving (apparently `skiving` is Euro-slang for goofing off when you should be working) and half a dozen have been sacked.
“I will pay for this, but it should not just be me. My attire was not suitable, I admit. But I didn’t mean to do anything bad. I was the security officer for the building and that’s where I live.” He said he had enlisted lawyers and was determined to get his job back.
(Yeah-its his ATTIRE that is the main trouble here!)
Just because he turned up to work in his underwear did not mean that he could not do his job, said his lawyer. “One time, dressed in his underpants, he managed to foil a robbery – he ran out into the street, pistol in hand, and arrested the crook,” said his lawyer Alessandro Moroni.
His dismissal may have taken months, but it counts as an exception – in most cases, public officials accused of wrongdoing do not lose their jobs.
Last year, nearly 7,000 council employees were investigated for disciplinary matters but only 227 lost their jobs.
The centre-Left government of Matteo Renzi is trying to reform Italy’s outdated labour laws and make it easier for employees, in the private sector at least, to hire and fire lazy staff. “People who show up, stamp their cards and then skive off need to be punished,” Mr Renzi said earlier this month.
(Yeah-that’s clever! It’s the Hogs that ALWAYS get the big money and the govt is going to solve its fiscal troubles by attacking the private sector that has the least power and least money INSTEAD of going after the BIGGEST PIGS FIRST!)
“We’ve seen crazy stuff, like the person in San Remo who clocked on in his underpants. They are destroying the credibility of the great majority of public officials who work hard.”
(I feel obligated to point out that simply showing up on time does NOT constitute HARD WORK-especially when employee Hogs who did show up then spend the rest of the day LOAFING the shade, plotting ways of gaining new entitlements!)
Marianna Madia, the public administration minister, said: “We want to assert that whoever defrauds the public administration must be suspended within 48 hours and the procedure by which they are dismissed should be speeded up.”
(I say: OH GREAT-they want to suspend these clowns-on FULL PAY NATURALLY-while city and Union Hogs spend YEARS wrangling about what to do with the Hog! And of course some NEW HOG will have to be hired to replace the suspended one! Gee....there is a REAL COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION! I don’t know what that sort of legal wrangling costs in Italy but we in Toronto DO KNOW-thanks to a Toronto Sun column of a decade back that in Toronto it costs THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS A DAY to argue this stuff-and that is without adding ten years worth of inflation to the bill! AND it typically takes a year or more to wind up such a union matter!)
(I am thinking there might a logical and REAL EASY to understand reason why Italy is BROKE?)
From: thetelegraphnews
Canada should do like Texas, Arizona and many other US States, make Canada a "Right to Work" Nation.
A Right to Work law guarantees that no person can be compelled, as a condition of employment, to join or not to join, or to pay dues to a labor union.
It weakens the Unions and they don't have the power they have now.. or money.
BTW, this thread is OLD!!! Video Published on Feb 18, 2015 WTF. What loser is necroposting
A Right to Work law guarantees that no person can be compelled, as a condition of employment, to join or not to join, or to pay dues to a labor union.
It weakens the Unions and they don't have the power they have now.. or money.
BTW, this thread is OLD!!! Video Published on Feb 18, 2015 WTF. What loser is necroposting
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Unfortunately the right to work legislation has been bastardized to cut wages and job security, which was not the origional intent.Canada should do like Texas, Arizona and many other US States, make Canada a "Right to Work" Nation.
A Right to Work law guarantees that no person can be compelled, as a condition of employment, to join or not to join, or to pay dues to a labor union.
It weakens the Unions and they don't have the power they have now.. or money.
BTW, this thread is OLD!!! Video Published on Feb 18, 2015 WTF. What loser is necroposting
Cutting wages is good.. this is why Canada doesn't have a huge manufacturing base..
GM, Domtar Paper, CIL Chemicals, and the list goes on have left Canada for cheaper labour.
GM jobs are just the tip of what Canada has lost to Mexico
Canada has just become a resource base economy, and we can't even do that right with pipelines being blocked by BC and Eastern interests.
The problem is the sappy Liberal types, lots on CC that think we need to kill the oil industry in Canada.
Yes and ignore the fact that global use of oil and oil based products is increasing .
Canada should do like Texas, Arizona and many other US States, make Canada a "Right to Work" Nation.
A Right to Work law guarantees that no person can be compelled, as a condition of employment, to join or not to join, or to pay dues to a labor union.
It weakens the Unions and they don't have the power they have now.. or money.
BTW, this thread is OLD!!! Video Published on Feb 18, 2015 WTF. What loser is necro posting
I think Unions have an important role to play...…………..keep an eye on safety issues and address them where necessary!
Otherwise they should keep their noses out of every other issue in the work place.
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Such an AMAZING SUPPLY of CLUELESS TWITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Canada has LIMITED NUMBERS of manufacturing jobs due to our SELL OFF of our economy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And MOST of that SELL OFF occurred during LIE-beral govts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Canada explored Free Trade with United States around 1900 under Sir Wilfred Laurier......................................
the Yankees were not interested.......................................
as they were sinking deep into their Isolationist situation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WW1 got the Cdn economy moving to a more modern model.................................
Britain shared various manufacturing information as it needed all manner of stuff from artillery shells to aircraft engines.......................
but the 1930`s strangled much Cdn industry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When WW2 came along...................................
Cdn industry underwent a MASSIVE crash course of EXPANSION and modernization!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With Britain again sharing all manner of technology!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
In 1938- there was a Cdn aircraft industry...................................
making WOODEN FRAMED BIPLANES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Canada had never made modern aluminum framed monoplane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by 1945................................
Canada was mass producing the ultimate 4 engine heavy bomber of the war...............................
the Avro Lancaster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In the process LIE-beral govt under Mackenzie King blended the Cdn, British and Yankee war efforts and industry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Survival required that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But after the war King and his LIE-berals CONTINUED the cozy relationship with Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KIng`s favorite Minster and right hand man was C.D. Howe....................................
who became known as "The Minister of Everything" in the Cdn govt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is one thing for govt to cooperate FULLY with our allies in a battle for survival!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but it is QUITE ANOTHER THING for Howe to spend his weekends and holidays at the country estates of Rockefellers and Vanderbilts..............................................
IN PEACE TIME..........................................
serving up the standard LIE-beral policy of offering CASH to foreign corporations that would set up branch plants in Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes.............for over a century.......................................
LIE-berals have been CONVINCED the best way to improve the Cdn economy is to SELL IT TO FOREIGNERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is why so many Conservatives were LAUGHING HYSTERICALLY when LIE-berals WHINED that Harper was TOO COZY with business leaders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the IDIOCY GOT EVEN WORSE when Wynne-bag LIE-berals did their mouldy green DEAL with Samsung and other players in the wind and solar MESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And now the money has run out...................................
and we ARE STILL a branch plant economy.................................
and the "branches" are being PRUNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can buy a Swedish designed and built car in Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But you cannot buy a Cdn designed and Cdn built car IN SWEDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOR in Canada EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Via Rail is buying new rolling stock.................................. FROM CHINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because Bombardier is better at collecting govt GRANTS...............................
than it is at filling contracts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We can BUY new destroyers.....................................
made in Britain or Holland or Italy.....................................
but there ARE no Cdn built DESTROYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the Cdn military needs mortar rounds for artillery practice they must be IMPORTED..............................
we have not made such things in many decades........................................
We get shoes from China.................................
electronics from Japan.............................................
fruit and vegetables from California...................................
we do not even can our own fruit any more as the LAST CDN Canning factory CLOSED several decades back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So now our canned food comes from OTHER COUNTRIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And we end up with nasty articles in the media about how Chinese cans and containers are CONTAMINATED with various types of plastic Bisphenol CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE BUY from the world.......................................
whole our BRANCH PLANT ECONOMY IS BLOCKED from selling any place except LOCALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anybody who thinks "right to work " legislation will IMPROVE our economy needs a major head adjustment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A kick in the LIE-beral head would be a start!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Canada should do like Texas, Arizona and many other US States, make Canada a "Right to Work" Nation.
A Right to Work law guarantees that no person can be compelled, as a condition of employment, to join or not to join, or to pay dues to a labor union.
It weakens the Unions and they don't have the power they have now.. or money.
BTW, this thread is OLD!!! Video Published on Feb 18, 2015 WTF. What loser is necroposting
Even the UDHR supports the right to work:
Article 23.1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states:[1]
(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
— Universal Declaration of Human Rights, United Nations General Assembly
You go work at a Union plant and tell them you will not pay union dues and show them that.. other than being laughed out of a job.. good luck.
Economic and regulatory changes affecting Canadian manufacturing in the last quarter of the 20th century further intensified in the 21st century. By the 2000s, the manufacturing sector had declined significantly. Between 2004 and 2008, about one in seven (or 322,000) manufacturing jobs had disappeared. This trend is not unique to Canada: the majority of Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) member countries are experiencing a similar decline. Contributing factors include production moving to countries such as China, an aging population (leading to an increased demand for services over manufactured goods) and tariff reduction.
With the exception of the production of transportation equipment (excluding automobiles), oil and coal products, and computers and electronics, all other segments of manufacturing have experienced a downturn. The textile industry, historically one of the largest manufacturing employers in the country, is one of the hardest sectors hit. For example, between 2004 and 2011, jobs at textile mills decreased by over 60 per cent. The automotive sectors, as well as lumber and paper industries, are also in rapid decline, particularly after the 2008 recession.
In response to these changes, Canadian manufacturers are increasingly focused on production for domestic markets as globalized manufacturing and distribution networks undermine production for export. Central Canada continues to dominate the bulk of manufacturing output, with Ontario representing approximately 46 per cent and Québec approximately 24 per cent of total manufacturing sales. Many consumer goods industries are concentrated in these two provinces, which have well over half the country's population.
source: https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/manufacturing
Seriously, can you bottle washers get any more obtuse.
10% of the GDP ($350 billion) is nothing compared to the mining, and oil industry at $33.2 trillion. Canada is primarily a resource based country.
Also, our manufacturing base is, we import parts from China, assemble them in Canada, and sell them to Walmart as Canadian Made.
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Cutting wages is not good. Especially when the cost of living keeps increasing and our dollar keeps dropping. Unless you want to make Canada Mexico Lite.
In reality if employers treated the workers properly there would be no demand for unions. The best companies would have lineups of good workers wanting in. Probably lots of bad ones wanting a free ride but these could be shuffled out.