Undercounted Iraqi Civilian Deaths

darkbeaver

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80K-88K civs killed as opposed to the 600K to 800K to 1 Million claimed by others.

This is derived from Iraq Body Count who actually does research as opposed to the ones who CRAVE high numbers to prove their point.

And by the way...it can be viewed as an anti-war website. When you read through it you will see.

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/




But then again...it could be a False Flag operation/webpage run by the CIA to keep the count down!

Iraq body count eh, no phuckin wonder Smack. They count only the dead in mainstream news stories in American papers, that's all they count Smack. You're being mislead by your own media again. I'll get you the story on that, and post it here later, but it's the last time Smack, you make a nice breakfast but I can't drag you into the RW if you don't want to go there.
 

darkbeaver

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These ordinary Iraqis were victims of senseless violence. Were they killed by an American bomb or a Saudi suicide bomber? Hint: IraqBodyCount doesn't want you to know.
(Updated 2/02/07)
Our staff sometimes hears from people who complain - in hit and run fashion - about the "tens of thousands" of innocent Iraqis killed by "American cluster bombs" and other instruments of destruction that the "occupiers" are supposedly dropping on Saddam Hussein's once idyllic "Muslim land." Sometimes the claims run into the hundreds of thousands. Sometimes even the millions.
Usually the critics are just sanctimonious types who use these ridiculous numbers to trash America, since that seems to make them feel better about themselves. At times, however, they are upfront about their support for the "insurgents," which (as we demonstrate here) is an extreme irony.
In fact, terrorist leaders in Iraq keep the conflict going by recruiting Muslims with videos and other propaganda that imply the Americans are killing Iraqi civilians. This, in turn, creates more dead Iraqis.
But, enter IraqBodyCount.net, an anti-war organization that was envisioned even before the Iraq War began, with the heady ambition of documenting each and every victim of American aggression in order to turn public opinion against the action to remove Saddam (let's just say they aren't too concerned about the hundreds of mass graves unearthed from the Ba'athist era).
Somewhere along the way, however, the harsh reality began to sink in that America was acting as no other country in history has ever acted to prevent civilian casualties in warfare. As a matter of fact, more American troops have been killed in the conflict than have civilians been killed by Americans. Americans are literally taking casualties to prevent casualties on the part of Iraqi civilians.
Though mere mortals might be prompted to reconsider their prejudices at this point, the folks at IraqBodyCount reacted by quietly changing their mission to include the victims of terrorists - the very people that the Americans are trying to stop. Their dubious body-count even includes members of the Iraqi security forces, who are part of the coalition.
In other words, people who are killed trying to stop terrorists are counted as victims of their own effort - as if deadly attacks against the innocent should be tolerated by those in a position to discourage it. Of course, no one thinks this way in real life. Who would lay the blame for rape victims at the feet of those who campaign against sexual abuse?
Another big problem with IraqBodyCount's statistics is that it even include the terrorists themselves. Enemy combatants in Iraq don't wear uniforms or carry ID cards, and all it takes for someone to make the list is to wind up in a hospital or morgue from "the effects of trauma." How many true civilians were really "killed by Americans" at Fallujah? Probably very few.
Look further and you'll also find that one out of every 50 "war victims" on the list actually came from a stampede at a religious festival on a single day, August 31,2005, that neither the Americans, Iraqi security forces, nor even the terrorists were anywhere near. No doubt the Americans are somehow responsible for Hajj stampedes in Mecca as well.
Unfortunately, few of the people who quote IraqBodyCount's sensational numb

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/IraqBodyCount2006.htm
 

Walter

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Are most of these deaths caused by Iraqis by blowing themselves up? Some of them blowed up real good.
 

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``The Libs NEED more deaths...they NEED them. ``


Quite the contrary, it is the reichwingers who do --- each death is a cause for celebration and another excuse to count their money derived from war profits.