"Unbiased" CBC Coverage

[I think not]

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I am appalled by ALL news reporting. The news today is done with microchip clips because the attention span of society is registered in seconds now.

If you're appalled by all news reporting, this should be no exception, but it obviously is, because it suits your bias perhaps? I think so.

I obviously had to spend three paragraphs to explain it to YOU. You still dont seem to get that the clip succinctly presents a summary of Harper's speech. It is not misquoting Harper.

All you did was try and spin and you are not very good at it.

It is interesting that as an American you are so incensed by our news station- Why? Because it is apparently not reporting with a slant akin to your own views???? Who pays for the station is meaningless. A private news station is partly supported by public funds by virtue of tax benefits.

I'm interested in seeing the reaction of Liberals. Considering that a good portion of the Canadian population is fixated on US news, I would suggest you find something else to bring up.

Tax benefits? What tax benefits? Do tell.

All news stations are biased. They choose the stories that they wish to emphasize and they choose the way in which they do it. The question is whether a news station is lying or changing events. I dont think the clip changes the intent of the speech. The station may have a bias in presenting leftist views, but on this occasion, I dont think that they misquoted Harper's ideas.

That's exactly what the CBC did, changed the perception of the events by means of omission.

 

[Said1]

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I think most news stations are controlled by their sponsors, who in turn support various different things.

 

[Colpy]

I have to say, I am fed up with the CBC wasting my tax dollars.

Did you see the National from the far north last week? How many hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars did THAT bit of theatre cost us? To say nothing of broadcasting from the Calgary Stampede, Kabul, or wherever else the spirit moves them.

And yes, the CBC plays "gotcha" with every government, as they did with Martin, as they did with every scandal the Liberals had.

But they DO carry a left bias. Good Lord, have any of you ever listened to Neil MacDonald? And tell my CBC reporters wind up as government appointees under the Liberals so often? Communications ministers, media advisers, even Senators.

And, I have spoken before of the moment I became anti-CBC. The day before the 2000 election, the 3 PM Sunday CBC Radio newscast consisted almost entirely of a story about Caplan (then immigration minister) calling the Reform Party (pay attention now) "the party of racists and fascists". That lovely phrase "The Reform Party is the party of racists and fascists" was repeated in the story over and over and over for 2 or 3 minutes. It was ridiculous.

BTW, the actual occurance had been weeks earlier, and had been extensively covered at the time.

I knew then "THE MINISTRY OF TRUTH" had to go.

 

[Finder]

heheheh the "PM met with his cacus" hehehe ok thats childish but..

 

[tamarin]

I agree, Colpy! The Liberal Party has always been a party of hatemongers and the CBC and the press in general have acted as conduits for the bilge.

 

[#juan]

And I get fed up with people blithering along as though Canada was the only country with a public broadcasting system. Every country in the G-8 has at least one public broadcasting network. Most have several. Every major country in the world has public broadcasting. If Izzy Asper had had his way, every radio and TV network in Canada would be controlled from Washington and Tel Aviv. That was not an anti-Semitic statement. When was the last time we heard anything remotely criticizing Israel on CTV, which Izzy did own.

Do these anti-CBC geniuses think we would get any kind of honest reporting if we sold the CBC to FOX or CNN? That is a joke. THe Americans can't even get honest reporting from the big networks. Does anybody remember all the "truth" we got regarding Private Jessica., or the young football player who was killed by his own people in Iraq? We got more truth from El Jezeera.(sp)

CBC represents Canada, and does it very well, regardless who is in power. The narrow minded detractors don't know that CBC broadcasts in the far north in seven different first nations languages, and I'm sure that costs us money as well but CBC is part of Canada. If some people don't like it, they can always go back to New York.

 

[Kreskin]

Any news media that holds the government to the grindstone is ok in my books, regardless of the governing party ideology. The American media became a pack of cheerleaders on the road to the Iraq war. It was unpatriotic to hold anyone accountable . It wasn't until the war started and the missing intelligence became evident that anyone even asked a question.

No one said it would be a media rose garden for elected officials. If their actions hold up to the scrutiny that's wonderful. But unless that scrutiny exists the news organization is simply a propoganda tool.

 

[gc]

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I agree with Kreskin,
I think it's important for the media to be critical of any government, regardless of party, as a way to provide a "check and balance" and keep the Government as honest as possible. If the media started trying to defend the mistakes of the Liberals, such as the sponsorship scandal, then I would be troubled. If the CBC does have a liberal bias, at least they are still critical of the Liberals, much more so than fox news is critical of the bush administration.

 

[athabaska]

CBC is floundering around not sure what its purpose is in a multi-media thousand channel world. I rarely turn it on aymore except for non-news presentatons on CBC radio.

The website is pathetic for all the money they spend on it. I don't watch CBC news..most of it is 'non-news' they feel obligated to broadcast. 'News' is a Canadian soldier being killed in Afghanistan and not CBC's hour coverage of his funeral service. Similarly they feel obligated to cover royal visits ad nauseum...first Nation conferences ad nauseum...and so on. Little actual journalism.

I always flip on CNN first, the Fox. 'If' there is a Canadian story going on then CTV. On the Internet I listen to news from around the world...especially the the source of the ongoing event. I've actually removed CBC from my bookmarks because I just don't go there anymore.

I'll watch the BBC portion on CBC Newsworld if it's relevent to a topic.

I don't know if there is anything 'wrong' with CBC as much as it had it's place and that place ended about a decade ago. The Peter Gzowsky show was a mainstay for years in our house and on the car radio. I can now access culture around the country and the world on my own and don't need Big Brother filling the role. There are still good cultural presentations on CBC but there are equally good presentations on a hundred other stations.

i just googled in CBC website. Headline:

"Troops mourn 5th Canadian soldier to die within week
Hundreds of soldiers from Canada and other NATO countries held a ceremony in southern Afghanistan on Monday to honour the fifth Canadian to die in a week. more »"

That's not journalism. Journalism is info on what's happening in Afghanistan and the hard-nosed facts and descriptions of the situation. what challeneges are our trops up against? We expect 'fluff' from high school papers.

 

[Colpy]

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I agree with Kreskin,
I think it's important for the media to be critical of any government, regardless of party, as a way to provide a "check and balance" and keep the Government as honest as possible. If the media started trying to defend the mistakes of the Liberals, such as the sponsorship scandal, then I would be troubled. If the CBC does have a liberal bias, at least they are still critical of the Liberals, much more so than fox news is critical of the bush administration.

That is true.......but there are simply too many connections between the CBC and the Liberal Party.........not quite right.

 

[athabaska]

I'd dead set against any government rewarding any journalist or reporter with a senate seat or other position. I saw an interview Peter Mansbridge had with PM Chretien a couple years back and it was disgusting. Peter did everythng but kiss the PM's ass. unfortunately for Peter, the Libs got the boot and there went his senate seat.

 

[para-dice]

With other media outlets being biased, I can't blame the CBC for following the market.

It's silly to expect an public institution in a competitive marketplace to be better than the rest all of the time.

But yea, the example above was TOO MUCH.

 

[Finder]

Colpy, Just because a news story doesn't slant towards the government, doesn't mean it's controled by another political party. The CBC if you ask me is biased to the centre, in which all three parties dance around now and then. However Mr Harper's dessions has an effect on Canadians and when the magority of Canadians do not support it, well the media will slant that way usually.

I remember the last 15 years of CBC news coverage being just has bad on the Liberals. It's just Conservatives I guess are used to whinning and crying just like the conservatives in down south. Hell if you listen to their propaganda down there you'd think they wern't even in charge. I guess we will get the same stupity from the Conservative idealogs here too. You don't like the CBC, stop watching it.

 

[#juan]

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I'd dead set against any government rewarding any journalist or reporter with a senate seat or other position. I saw an interview Peter Mansbridge had with PM Chretien a couple years back and it was disgusting. Peter did everythng but kiss the PM's ass. unfortunately for Peter, the Libs got the boot and there went his senate seat.

That is just nonsense. Why in hell would Mansbridge want a senate seat. Mansbridge could go to to any network in Canada or the U.S. and name his price and they would all fight over him. He wouldn't take a senate seat if it were offered.

 

[athabaska]

"You don't like the CBC, stop watching it. "

I'd rather stop paying for it at the same time. Fortunately, like or not like the CBC, it is less relevent than ever and news ratings are in the dumps.

 

[DurkaDurka]

The CBC does one thing well.... hockey. Although some people would they are "biased" in their coverage of the Leafs

 

[athabaska]

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The CBC does one thing well.... hockey. Although some people would they are "biased" in their coverage of the Leafs

'some people'? The only reason I didn't want the Leafs to make the playoffs last year is it would be all we'd hear about. Nothing against the team or the dedicated Leaf fans but the combination of CBC as a Toronto institution and the Maple Leafs in the playoffs is just too much for us colonials out here to endure. I live in Alberta yet heard a hundred times more on CBC about the Leafs late season playoff drive than that of the Oilers.

 

[Said1]

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I'd dead set against any government rewarding any journalist or reporter with a senate seat or other position. I saw an interview Peter Mansbridge had with PM Chretien a couple years back and it was disgusting. Peter did everythng but kiss the PM's ass. unfortunately for Peter, the Libs got the boot and there went his senate seat.

Hold on just a second. Sentor Munson was the former director of communications for Chretien, but, before he was given that cushy posts, he was journalist and big wig at CTV, beureu cheif in China and covered other things such as the Iran-Iraq war.

It's also worth mentioning that Munson and Chretien were were good buddies and played basketball with other Ottawa news people and journalists and such as Randle Moore, and another guy, who's name escapes me (obviously NOT the Puffster). One time, Chretien even dropped in and had a beer at the Tavern down the street. Sadlly, this was on a Sunday, so I wasn't there, cause I was in church. :lol:

Looks like Munson had everyone else beat, ass kissing and all. :lol:

Munson is a pretty nice guy actually, although he drinks an awful lot. If it wasn't for him, my favorite watering hole wouldn't be open. He's part owner, now.

 

[DurkaDurka]

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The CBC does one thing well.... hockey. Although some people would they are "biased" in their coverage of the Leafs

'some people'? The only reason I didn't want the Leafs to make the playoffs last year is it would be all we'd hear about. Nothing against the team or the dedicated Leaf fans but the combination of CBC as a Toronto institution and the Maple Leafs in the playoffs is just too much for us colonials out here to endure. I live in Alberta yet heard a hundred times more on CBC about the Leafs late season playoff drive than that of the Oilers.

I agree, the CBC does spend a little too much time covering the Leafs. Better the Leafs then the Senators though!

 

[Toro]

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"You don't like the CBC, stop watching it. "

Apparently a lot of people have taken this advice.