UN official sparks debate over Canadian food security

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... And what exactly do you expect the gvt to do on this?

In the end, the primary responsibility for this lies with the individual and for those that fall on hard times, out reach services do exist to provide a hand up.
Drop in jobs where they can work long enough to get another bottle of Listerine instead of a bottle of schizophrenia meds.
 

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Leona Aglukkaq acknowledges Northern food issues

OTTAWA—Health Minister Leona Aglukkaq says that when she tore a strip off a UN right-to-food envoy last week, she never meant to imply there were no hunger problems in the North.

In an interview with The Canadian Press, Aglukkaq said there are indeed serious poverty challenges in her home region.

But she said she resents being told how to fix things by an outsider who has no first-hand knowledge of the North and who comes from a country that opposes the seal hunt.

“I never said that there is no hunger issue for aboriginal people,” Aglukkaq said in a phone interview from Geneva where she was attending global health discussions. “I come from there, I see it first-hand.

“But I also see first-hand the impact from out of Canada, from out of the North, putting forward broad recommendations that are not helpful, that don’t recognize that we as aboriginal people continue to depend on the land for our food.”

She says food security is best addressed by improving prospects for jobs and the economy of the North.

Last week, the UN’s special rapporteur on the right to food, Olivier De Schutter, presented his findings from a trip across Canada, saying he had “extremely severe” concerns about the ability of aboriginal people and families on social assistance to afford the food they need to stay healthy.

He criticized the government’s Nutrition North food subsidy program as benefiting retailers more than consumers. He also reflected aboriginal communities’ concerns that federal policies have eroded their control of the land and natural resources.

He made no mention of campaigns to stop the seal hunt.

Even a submission from the Inuit Tapiriit Kanatami and the Inuit Circumpolar Institute didn’t mention the environmentalist campaign.

Instead, that submission emphasized the need for government to invest in hunting and traditional knowledge, strengthen food subsidies and boost the regional economy — recommendations reflected in De Schutter’s preliminary report.

When De Schutter wrapped up his 11-day trip last week, several cabinet ministers blasted him, including Aglukkaq, who said food security in the North is about fighting environmentalists lobbying to cut off access to hunting traditional foods.

Aglukkaq called him “ill-informed” and “patronizing,” since he made recommendations about the North without setting foot there.

She said that instead of targeting Ottawa, De Schutter should be looking at environmentalists who are trying to cut off Inuit access to the seal hunt, polar bears and fish.

“It’s about fighting environmentalists that try to put a stop to our way of life, of hunting to provide for our families,” she said.

Her comments prompted critics to ask whether Ottawa was denying widespread poverty and food insecurity in the North.

In her interview this week, Aglukkaq said that for De Schutter to truly understand food security in the North, he needs to look well beyond the grocery store to see how the traditional reliance on hunting is under pressure.

“Hunting is our way of life. The very country he comes from does not recognize the seal hunt, and in fact opposes the seal hunt,” the minister said.

“When you’re dealing with activist groups outside of your region that try to put a stop to your access to food, it’s very personal, and it’s something that needs to be clearly understood. We are a product of our environment, and that piece of it all is clearly not addressed.”

De Schutter is from Belgium, which spearheaded a ban on Canadian seal products. However, traditional aboriginal sealing is excluded from the European ban.

Aglukkaq said she would welcome the envoy back so that she could take him to the North to see first-hand how the seal hunt works.

The Inuit submission to the UN envoy pointed to government-funded research that shows that 68.8 per cent of adults in Nunavut do not have secure access to food — six times higher than the Canadian average. The submission points out that the research does not properly take into account access to country foods.

“You don’t need to be a Canadian citizen to see the horrific effects of poverty (created by federal policy) on First Nations,” commented Pam Palmater, the chair in indigenous governance at Ryerson University in Toronto.

“The Conservatives can’t have it both ways. They can’t ignore poverty — and arguably maintain it through their policies — and then critique those who see its devastating effects and stand up against it.”

Canada News: Leona Aglukkaq acknowledges Northern food issues, but maintains criticism of UN - thestar.com
 

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Not really. It is a simple statistical procedure. It can be determined in poor regions in broad strokes because the food deficiency for the country or area is knowable. Deaths from other cause can be deducted from the total and the deaths from starvation assumed from the balance. Obviously a bit more complex in the working than that but you can get the idea. Inrich countries these problems exist, in the extreme, only in small pockets and are subsumed in larger numbers. Only egregious and obvious cases can be counted.

That does not mean that a group that is below the poverty line and below what is needed to adequately feed itself is not suffering from severe deficiency.

Plus the fact that nobody is dying of starvation in Canada might have a lot to do with there not being statistics on "Starvation Deaths in Canada".
 

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The bar for food security is not life or death.


Food security refers to the availability of food and one's access to it. A household is considered food-secure when its occupants do not live in hunger or fear of starvation.


Too bad "irrational" wasn't added to the definition.

"Mom I'm hungry"
"There's a can of corn in the cabinet"
"Ummm... forget it."
 

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Food security refers to the availability of food and one's access to it. A household is considered food-secure when its occupants do not live in hunger or fear of starvation.


Too bad "irrational" wasn't added to the definition.

"Mom I'm hungry"
"There's a can of corn in the cabinet"
"Ummm... forget it."

Keyword: "live"
 

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Keyword: "live"

Yes... that word was not lost. Clearly nobody in Canada is "living" in hunger but they may have an fear of one day being hungry... therefore they are food insecure according to the definition.

Even if the "fear" is irrational... which it is.
 

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Food security refers to the availability of food and one's access to it. A household is considered food-secure when its occupants do not live in hunger or fear of starvation.


Too bad "irrational" wasn't added to the definition.

"Mom I'm hungry"
"There's a can of corn in the cabinet"
"Ummm... forget it."

This i can agree with, there are a lot of kids and adults who are too lazy to open a can of what ever or, just because they don't like it. Thus it is a contributing factor in the "Hunger" of Canadians, though it isn't the only reason they are hungry.

Yes... that word was not lost. Clearly nobody in Canada is "living" in hunger but they may have an fear of one day being hungry... therefore they are food insecure according to the definition.

Even if the "fear" is irrational... which it is.

I have to disagree with you, if we're talking about HUNGER or living in fear of being HUNGRY more often then not then this is not technically STARVATION, an in this there are a lot of Canadians who are food Scarce but are not STARVING.

This being said the whole point of this thread seems to have gotten lost in the banter and rhetoric being repeated over and over again.

In this, the question is, Why did we invite some crack pot UN official to come assess our country's poverty rate and Starvation rates? In all honesty there is a far better use of the UN money, and also a better use of our time. Like i said in my previous post....

Why don't we just pull our funding out of the UN's Starvation in poor nations campaign crap and use it to better INFORM people of the help that is out there? Because then the UN would flip their spit, that's why.

The UN while great in theory for relations between foreign nations, it just doesn't have the same effect it used to have. It isn't stopping the constant threat of war, ect. In fact they seem to be putting more pressure where they shouldn't and honestly I doubt we have a use for it.

Canada is capable of being self sustaining (this means with out trade or exporting goods) for i think i read somewhere 3 generations, maybe more, and this includes gas and fuel.

At the end of the day there are resources out there for people to help better themselves, a lot of homeless CHOOSE to be there and there isn't anything that we can do about it. If children are showing up to school hungry then send in social services and Child protective services to investigate the parent/guardian's capability to feed and nourish the child, if the child refuses to eat what is given to them then there is nothing that can be done about it. If the parent is at fault then the child should be taken away and found a place for them to have half a chance of survival in this world to make better choices.