U.N. plans global socialist rule

[Jay]

What are the United states Jay??


Are they not states (états in french, which translations to nation), which have united under a second, level of government. Hmm, yeah, sounds like it.


Now, what is the european union jay? HOLYSHIT!! its the same thing!!

No it isn't.

"The members of the European Union have transferred to it considerable sovereignty, more than that of any other non-sovereign regional organisation. As has been mentioned, in certain areas the EU begins to take on the character of a federation or confederation. However, in legal terms, member states remain the masters of the Treaties, which means that the Union does not have the power to transfer additional powers from states onto itself without their agreement through further international treaties. Further, in many areas member states have given up relatively little national sovereignty, particularly in key areas of national interest such as foreign relations and defence. This unique structure means the European Union is perhaps best seen as a sui generis entity.

On 29 October 2004, European heads of government and state signed the Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe. This has been ratified by 13 member states and is currently awaiting ratification by the other states. However, this process faltered on May 29, 2005 when the majority of French voters rejected the constitution in a referendum by 54.7%. The French rejection was followed three days later by a Dutch one on June 1 when in the Netherlands 61.6% of voters refused the constitution as well.

The current and future status of the European Union therefore continues to be subject of political controversy, with widely differing views both within and between member states. For example, in the United Kingdom one poll suggested that around 50% of the population are indifferent to the European Union. However, other countries are more in favour of European integration — soon after the Netherlands and the French voted "no" on the constitution, the tiny Grand Duchy of Luxembourg voted "yes.""



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU

 

[I think not]

The UN is the first step VS the same advantage, but globally. No socialism, no capitalsm, this is just humanity...

The UN has been around for 60 years Huck, some 200 countries and all of them, yes all of them have disregarded to comply with the UN Charter, I would say nobody takes the UN seriously unless it is to further an interest.

 

[darkbeaver]

RE: U.N. plans global soc

HENRY LAMB SAYS

"Proponents of this scheme realize that the American people would overwhelmingly reject this proposal if given an opportunity to vote on the decision to subject the United States to U.N. global rule. That's why the mechanism for global governance is being constructed in small steps taken by a multitude of different U.N. agencies and organizations, all coordinated, all working toward the same goal.

" The American people have no representation , the rich will decide for them.The American people belong to a big union, they hate unions, the American people don,t know weather thier holes are punched or bored! :lol:

 

[I think not]

The great thing about capitalism jay is that i get to take power and make you my bitch... :brave:

Better a bitch than in a ditch.

well, extreme capitalism will leave the losers in a ditch. look at south america, they struggle like hell to raise, and they jsut can't...

Give me an example where extreme capitalism has reigned.

 

[Jay]

The great thing about capitalism jay is that i get to take power and make you my bitch... :brave:

The great thing about guns is I can kill you from 4km away.

 

[Huck]

I agree wioth dark beaver.


Jay, nice post, but you still dont get the essence of the union. Basically, all european sates maintain theiur own laws, functions, etc. But, the new higher euro organisation ensures that all the member states contribute fairly, redistributes money in the poorer ones to improve quality of life (like happened in spain) and removes trade barriers.

The UN proposes to be something similar.

ITN: you are right, its easier said than done. But, having the USA global superpower voting aginst it surely doesnt help.

 

[Huck]

ITN: are yuou arguiung that south ameria has had an equal chance to rise and has simply failed by bad luck?

 

[I think not]

ITN: are yuou arguiung that south ameria has had an equal chance to rise and has simply failed by bad luck?

Define an equal chance.

 

[Huck]

Are you areguing that south america has had complete control over their resources (and not foreign corprations) so that they could benefit from the exports?

are you arguing that south america does not have trouble with its loans because it has no money to repay them?

Are you areguing that stronger nations such as the USA and europe have not used their might to ensure that certain south american countries were maintained in abused state?

are you arguing that the US dollar hegemony gives them a fair position to get rich?

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: U.N. plans global soc

HENRY LAMB SAYS

"Proponents of this scheme realize that the American people would overwhelmingly reject this proposal if given an opportunity to vote on the decision to subject the United States to U.N. global rule. That's why the mechanism for global governance is being constructed in small steps taken by a multitude of different U.N. agencies and organizations, all coordinated, all working toward the same goal.

So it is a communist subversive society bent on the destruction of America. Lets tear the building down and put up a Wall Mart.

Let's ask ITN, our dear New York friend, what would be more beneficial to the great city...the UN or a Wall Mart?

 

[I think not]

Are you areguing that south america has had complete control over their resources (and not foreign corprations) so that they could benefit from the exports?

are you arguing that south america does not have trouble with its loans because it has no money to repay them?

Are you areguing that stronger nations such as the USA and europe have not used their might to ensure that certain south american countries were maintained in abused state?

are you arguing that the US dollar hegemony gives them a fair position to get rich?

I said define equal chance Huck, not go off on a rant.

 

[Huck]

Re: RE: U.N. plans global soc

HENRY LAMB SAYS

"Proponents of this scheme realize that the American people would overwhelmingly reject this proposal if given an opportunity to vote on the decision to subject the United States to U.N. global rule. That's why the mechanism for global governance is being constructed in small steps taken by a multitude of different U.N. agencies and organizations, all coordinated, all working toward the same goal.

So it is a communist subversive society bent on the destruction of America. Lets tear the building down and put up a Wall Mart.

Let's ask ITN, our dear New York friend, what would be more beneficial to the great city...the UN or a Wall Mart?

Jay, can youn explain to us in your own words how the global government could affect the US economy? Why is the US a union itself, why doesn't it want to share it with the world jay?

i can't way to see your answer

 

[Huck]

RE: U.N. plans global soc

ITN: no, i will simply ask you: do you believe that south america has not been impacted by global capitasm? (i.e. is not the loser of the usual capitalist 'winner eats the loser' game).

 

[I think not]

I'll go with Wal Mart, it will give another reason for the fringe left to go nuts.

 

[Huck]

I'll go with Wal Mart, it will give another reason for the fringe left to go nuts.

yup, and give your money to china so they can buy you back irate:

 

[Jay]

I'll go with Wal Mart, it will give another reason for the fringe left to go nuts.

So there you have it Huck; go nuts.

 

[I think not]

I'll go with Wal Mart, it will give another reason for the fringe left to go nuts.

yup, and give your money to china so they can buy you back irate:

You mean like Japan? :lol:

 

[Huck]

I'll go with Wal Mart, it will give another reason for the fringe left to go nuts.

So there you have it Huck; go nuts.

Zhnong1guo2 yao4 ni3men! :sign5:

 

[I think not]

Re: RE: U.N. plans global soc

ITN: no, i will simply ask you: do you believe that south america has not been impacted by global capitasm? (i.e. is not the loser of the usual capitalist 'winner eats the loser' game).

Latin America has progressed over the years, because.......... it has attracted investors and is slowly building up the economy.

 

[Huck]

I'll go with Wal Mart, it will give another reason for the fringe left to go nuts.

yup, and give your money to china so they can buy you back irate:

You mean like Japan? :lol:

China is much stronger than japan now. Do you remember 10 years ago having EVERYTHING made in japan. i don't...