U.N. Employees Beheaded Over Quran Burning

PoliticalNick

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Nope. If somebody can come up with something better, I'm all ears. Just like the 9/11 conspiracy nutters, if they can come up with something credible to suggest it didn't go down like it was reported, I can accept thatt. After almost ten years, I have yet to hear anything yet. Do you have a version of events that isn't laughable?

How about the fact that Bin-Laden claimed responsibility for everything he did in the prior 10 years within 48 hours of the event and usually faster. He denied 9/11 from the start and has never changed that position. It doesn't ring true he would just stop claiming responsibility out of the blue.
 

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So you agree on Canada's obligations to NATO?

We've been through this many times already. I have stated previously (ad nauseum) that I believe Canada should adhere to treaties it signs with other nations. Where we disagree is on what constitutes a nation but, that discussion is for another thread. Why, do you not believe we should adhere to our NATO obligations?

Is terrorism an idea or an institution?

Fear is an idea and terrorism creates fear

How about the fact that Bin-Laden claimed responsibility for everything he did in the prior 10 years within 48 hours of the event and usually faster. He denied 9/11 from the start and has never changed that position. It doesn't ring true he would just stop claiming responsibility out of the blue.

So the terrorist said he didn't do it. That just might be the most credible yarn yet.
 

PoliticalNick

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We've been through this many times already. I have stated previously (ad nauseum) that I believe Canada should adhere to treaties it signs with other nations. Where we disagree is on what constitutes a nation but, that discussion is for another thread. Why, do you not believe we should adhere to our NATO obligations?

We should never adhere to anything that is not in our best interest.

Fear is an idea and terrorism creates fear
Actually fear is an emotion.

Just for arguments sake if your definition could be accepted then all the fear propaganda by the US government is terroism too. In fact anytime anyone tells you to be scared it is terrorism.
 

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Nope. If somebody can come up with something better, I'm all ears. Just like the 9/11 conspiracy nutters, if they can come up with something credible to suggest it didn't go down like it was reported, I can accept thatt. After almost ten years, I have yet to hear anything yet. Do you have a version of events that isn't laughable?

Multiple eyewitnesses claiming to hear and see many explosions just before the collapse.
Mayor Rudy G states on tv they had to move because the WTC was coming down 15 minutes prior to it happening.
BBC & CNN reports, with video evidence, WTC had collapsed 20 minutes prior to it happening.

And you still haven't answered about the scrambled military jets going 0/4 on that day when they had 100% acuracy prior to 9/11.
 

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We should never adhere to anything that is not in our best interest.

If being part of NATO is not in our best interest, we should get out of NATO. While we are in NATO, we should adhere to our obligations


Actually fear is an emotion.

On a basic level, everything is an emotion....but you are just being obtuse now.


Just for arguments sake if your definition could be accepted then all the fear propaganda by the US government is terroism too. In fact anytime anyone tells you to be scared it is terrorism.

No, to be defined as terrorism requires an act. While threatening to blow up the local Walmart may be a crime, it would not be considered a terrorist act unless one was to actually follow through and at least attempt the plan....but again, you're arguing semantics I can only assume it is because you can't defend your own position.
 

PoliticalNick

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Nope. If somebody can come up with something better, I'm all ears. Just like the 9/11 conspiracy nutters, if they can come up with something credible to suggest it didn't go down like it was reported, I can accept thatt. After almost ten years, I have yet to hear anything yet. Do you have a version of events that isn't laughable?

Should I go into how Bush and all his buddies had the miraculous good fortune to sell all their airline stocks in the week prior to 9/11?
 

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1, No one should get so upset that beheading someone is a reasonable reaction.

Nobody should, but people do, and it's predictable. Whether or not you or I find it reasonable is besides the point.
 

Cannuck

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Multiple eyewitnesses claiming to hear and see many explosions just before the collapse.
Mayor Rudy G states on tv they had to move because the WTC was coming down 15 minutes prior to it happening.
BBC & CNN reports, with video evidence, WTC had collapsed 20 minutes prior to it happening.

And you still haven't answered about the scrambled military jets going 0/4 on that day when they had 100% acuracy prior to 9/11.

All these issues have been discussed over and over and over and over and over again on other threads here. All I can say is watch "Screw Loose Change" and anything that isn't resoundingly refuted, bring back here for discussion.
 

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Are you implying that all the jews from europe had just recently been chased of the lands that were parts of Syria and Trans-Jordan..
No I was referencing the 700,000 Arabs that were chased off the area that the UN gave to the Jews.
Most of the Jews in Israel today are of European descent. Which is far different from the Sephartic Jews who can actually claim the lands of the 12 tribes as their ancient home..
I am aware of that.
Of course, if we want to discuss claiming ancient homelands I can trace my lineage back to the nobility in France prior to the revolution so I should then be able to claim back the 15000 acre estate that belonged to my forefathers.
Good luck with that, they would probably charge you for that freedom. It too Haiti 250 years to pay off France for their freedom.
 

PoliticalNick

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If being part of NATO is not in our best interest, we should get out of NATO. While we are in NATO, we should adhere to our obligations
I agree, we should tell NATO to f..k off and pull out.

On a basic level, everything is an emotion....but you are just being obtuse now.
I do not resemble an angle at all.

No, to be defined as terrorism requires an act. While threatening to blow up the local Walmart may be a crime, it would not be considered a terrorist act unless one was to actually follow through and at least attempt the plan....but again, you're arguing semantics I can only assume it is because you can't defend your own position.
you may want to read the US Patriot Act and the Canadian Terrorism Act. Both state threatening to blow up Wal-mart is a terrorist act.
 

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If being part of NATO is not in our best interest, we should get out of NATO. While we are in NATO, we should adhere to our obligations
There's that sticky logical inconsistency.

We have other obligations. I guess the only ones we should adhere to, are the ones that don't interfere with your imagination and bigotry.

....but you are just being obtuse now.
You should be able to relate, you do obtuse well.

....but again, you're arguing semantics I can only assume it is because you can't defend your own position.
Holy crap, you've found a soul mate!
 

PoliticalNick

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No, to be defined as terrorism requires an act. While threatening to blow up the local Walmart may be a crime, it would not be considered a terrorist act unless one was to actually follow through and at least attempt the plan....but again, you're arguing semantics I can only assume it is because you can't defend your own position.
I am defending my position...you're the one who won't answer the questions.
 

Cannuck

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Saying you done it before is not answering the questions posed, it is avoidance and deflection.

No it isn't. There are pages and pages of threads here where 9/11 conspiracy nutters try to convince people that steel melted, planes were drones, the buildings fell at free fall speed..blah, blah, blah...

I'm not interested in getting into a debate about who was responsible for 9/11. I understand that that is key to your position but it would be like me saying that the Russians were responsible for the Japanese earthquake. There simply is no credible evidence to support it (at least none brought forward as yet). I will ask you one question though. Do you believe that the people behind 9/11 wanted to use it and WMD's as an excuse to go into Iraq?