Turks and Caicos to join Canada?

iARTthere4iam

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I think it is sad that some would suggest that Canada couldn't administer it. Aren't we big, rich Canada? I would support it, but do they want it?
How hard would it be? I haven't heard of them in the news at all. No famine, no war, no horrifying poverty. Sounds good, let's do it.
 

athabaska

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#juan said:
Out of curiosity,

how much do Canadians spend in Hawaii, The Grand Caymans, Jamaica, and other tropical resorts. With modern hotels and facilities how much would Americans spend in the "New" Turks and Calcos? Wouldn't it be a better thing for Canadians to spend their money "in Canada" so to speak? Like I said before, it's not going to happen anyway.

Probably billions. But I've been to Hawaii a couple times and am not going to go to the T & Cs instead. Canadians travel to Europe even though there is European heritage in Canada. It's also no less expensive for someone in Edmonton to vacation in Nova Scotia because it's 'Canadian' than it is to fly to California or elsewhere outside the country.
 

Zzarchov

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Canada's federal system with strong provincial powers is enticing to small nations who have trouble defending their national interests from the big fish in the sea in the same way the EU is. They give up their foriegn policy (which isn't much for some nations) and gain stability and and representation on the world stage.
 

#juan

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Athabaska wrote:
Probably billions. But I've been to Hawaii a couple times and am not going to go to the T & Cs instead. Canadians travel to Europe even though there is European heritage in Canada. It's also no less expensive for someone in Edmonton to vacation in Nova Scotia because it's 'Canadian' than it is to fly to California or elsewhere outside the country.

I've been to Hawaii as well and as far as I'm concerned, I prefer Cacun or the other Mexican beach resorts. From Vancouver or Edmonton, or most major Canadian cities Cancun is a single, non-stop, direct flight. The Turks and Calcos would be no different. Hawaii is a direct flight from Vancouver. I don't know about Edmonton and points east.
 

athabaska

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The T and C's are a dot in the ocean. They aren't in the league of Hawaii or Mexican resorts. There is no room for any scale of development that would make a dent in Canadians going south. I've also been to the Yucatan and I go more for the surrounding hiking, history and more than for laying on a beach (which I never do). The T and C's are probably already an environmental disaster and don't need multiples more development to accomodate wealthy Canadians needing a tropical condo or villa.
 

Mogz

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This'll never happen, there are too many complications from bringing in a parcel of land so far removed from our borders, especially in the 21st Century.
 

#juan

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I've said about three times on this topic that the T & C joining Canada would never happen. The reasons are mainly political, not because there is no room, or whatever.



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Calberty

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8O Google is a great tool. There's references to these islands and Camnada. "There are 8 islands which combined are twice the size of Denman Island". I looked up Denman Island and it's a small island near Vancouver. It's hard to find but look near a town called Comox. For those out east think of an area 1/14th the size of PEI with 3 times the population density.
 

#juan

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On the other hand, Jamaica is two and a half times the 430 sq. km. of the T & C and has 2.7 million people compared with about 25,000 on the T & C. This is all a futile exercise because it won't happen anyway.
 

The Project Man

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The economic factor is a good point. I see enough red thongs (eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwww!) running on the beach as it is to support the country. The money can be recycled through your economy.

Thank you,
 

Zzarchov

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People said the same thing about newfoundland "Its a moot point" "It will never happen anyway"

Then it did.

As said before, the Carribean is closer to the Capital than much of Canada.
 

athabaska

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#juan said:
On the other hand, Jamaica is two and a half times the 430 sq. km. of the T & C and has 2.7 million people compared with about 25,000 on the T & C. This is all a futile exercise because it won't happen anyway.

Jaun, despite occassional disagreements I know you are an intelligent fellow from your postings but you did zeros incorrrectly. Jamaica isn't 2.5 times the size of these islands but 25 times the size.
 

#juan

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Athabaska

You are absolutely correct. I obviously dropped a digit somewhere. Thanks.
 

tamarin

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If those islands are allowed to join Canada then the whole deal should be opened up again. Eastern Ontario deserves independence as much as any other area of the country. And a lot of us want it. The islands would become a major entry point for illegals and frankly we're tired of the dilution and diminution of Canadian citizenship in these parts.
 

Hamlet

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RE: Turks and Caicos to j

Would the Turks and Caicos become a major entry point for illegals? Frankly, I doubt it. On a practical level, a territory that is not part of a nation proper is not the best entry point for illegals. If an illegal sneaks into a island territory, they're still a plane ride away. And planes require I.D., money, etc. It's much more difficult to sneak on a plane than walk across a border or hop on a train.

As evidence I'd like to point to the Netherlands Antilles, or Puerto Rico. Neither of those territories are major entry points of illegals into Holland or the U.S. respectively. The Turks and Caicos aren't a major entry point of illegals into the U.K., so why would that change if they became a Canadian territory?
 

tamarin

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Obviously, islands like the Turks inspire diaspora. I'm sure there are at least three times the number of individuals 'offshore' connected by family to the islanders as live on the island. Why shouldn't they then use their family connections to bypass our supposedly strict migrant scrutiny? Canada doesn't vett relatives of new citizens. Family reunification is one of our system's biggest embarrassments.
 

tamarin

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I think not, eastern Ontario has wanted independence for a long time. It's part of cultural lore here. In the small communities that dot this part of the province, talk of independence from the giant spawned by confederation has always been table talk.