Trump to plunge Middle East into 'fire with no end' with Jerusalem speech

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Trump to plunge Middle East into 'fire with no end' with Jerusalem speech



A cacophony of angry and despairing voices across the Middle East and the world have urged Donald Trump not to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel at a planned speech on Wednesday, warning him that any such announcement would destroy the peace process, strengthen the extremists and weaken the US’s standing in the world.

The pope issued an unusually heartfelt plea to the president to respect the status quo on the city, and to conform with UN resolutions. He told thousands of people at his general audience: “I cannot keep quiet about my deep worry about the situation that has been created in the last few days.”

Pope Francis said he hoped “wisdom and prudence prevail, in order to avoid adding new elements of tension to a global panorama that is already convulsed and marked by so many cruel conflicts”.

The spokesman for the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, said the US was “plunging the region and the world into a fire with no end in sight”. He added that the Organisation for Islamic Co-operation would meet in Istanbul on 13 December in a special session to co-ordinate a response.

Donald Trump’s Jerusalem statement is an act of diplomatic arson

The Turkish foreign minister, Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu, disclosed he had told the US secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, that Washington was making a grave mistake, and the whole world was against the decision. Turkey has suggested it might cut diplomatic ties with Israel if the plan goes ahead.

British prime minister Theresa May said on Wednesday that she would call Trump about his proposed announcement.

“The status of Jerusalem should be determined as a negotiated settlement between the Israelis and the Palestinians and Jerusalem should be a shared capital,” she said.

Both Germany and France, fierce critics of the decision, updated travel advice to their citizens, warning of possible clashes in Israel and the occupied territories.

Trump is expected to declare formal recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel later on Wednesday, breaking with years of precedent and potentially leading to unpredictable consequences for the Middle East.

Trump’s planned announcement was welcomed by Jewish groups, including the British board of deputies, which described the outcry as bizarre. The Israeli government remained silent, awaiting details of the announcement.

The response across the wider Middle East ranging from Syria to Yemen has been universally hostile, including from the US’s steadfast ally Saudi Arabia, which believes the US move damages Riyadh’s continuing efforts to negotiate a peace deal, starting with a unification of the Palestinian leadership.

At the request of Jordan and the Palestinians, an emergency meeting of Arab foreign ministers will be held on Saturday. The Arab League warned any recognition of Jerusalem would be a blatant attack on the Arab nation.

Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said on Wednesday that US plans to recognise Jerusalem as Israel’s capital was a move made “out of despair and debility” because “their hands are tied and they can’t achieve their goals”.

Khamenei, who is stridently anti-Israel, told government officials: “Victory belongs to Islamic Ummah. Palestine will be free, the Palestinian nation will achieve victory.”

The ayatollah has previously said that Israel “will not see the next 25 years”.

The UN special envoy for the Middle East, Nickolay Mladenov, urged caution, saying: “The future of Jerusalem is something that needs to be negotiated with Israel, with the Palestinians, sitting side by side directly in negotiations.”

The UK’s response was at the milder end of the spectrum. Boris Johnson, the British foreign secretary, said he was concerned by the imminent announcement, but said it was important to wait for the details of the president’s statement.

Before meeting Tillerson, Johnson said the decision “makes it more important than ever that the long-awaited American proposals on the Middle East peace process are now brought forward. That should happen as a matter of priority.”

A Kremlin spokesman said the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, had expressed his concern about the announcement, but was also waiting to hear Trump’s speech.

China’s foreign ministry spokesman, Geng Shuang, told a regular news briefing that the status of Jerusalem was a complicated and sensitive issue and China was concerned the US decision “could sharpen regional conflict”.

“All parties should do more for the peace and tranquillity of the region, behave cautiously, and avoid impacting the foundation for resolving the long-standing Palestine issue and initiating new hostility in the region,” Geng said.

In London, the Jewish Board of Deputies president, Jonathan Arkush, welcomed Trump’s decision, saying it was bizarre that it should be seen as remarkable.

“Jerusalem has been the spiritual centre of Jewish life for 3,000 years, since the time of King David,” he said. “Given that Jerusalem is in fact historically, presently and legally Israel’s capital, the decision by many countries not to formally recognise this has been an act of post-truth petulance.”

Nasser Qudwa, a senior Palestinian official, said unilaterally recognising Jerusalem as the capital would be in breach of international law, and that the Palestinians would seek to challenge the move at the UN security council.

The Palestinian envoy to the UK, Manuel Hassassian, told the BBC: “If [Trump] says what he is intending to say about Jerusalem being the capital of Israel, it means a kiss of death to the two-state solution.

“He is declaring war in the Middle East, he is declaring war against 1.5 billion Muslims (and) hundreds of millions of Christians that are not going to accept the holy shrines to be totally under the hegemony of Israel.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...t-into-fire-with-no-end-with-jerusalem-speech

Attaboy, let the world know your a crazy ass lunatic.
 

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Since I was born after World War II [in 1948], I hold no sense of responsibility for what happened to the Jewish Folks and the holocaust. .... But, the holocaust against the Arabs and Palestinians carried out by Israel and its supporters happened during my lifetime and on "My Watch" so to speak, and I am quite dismayed.

For my complete lifetime, Jewish Folks have been entering courtrooms across the universe seeking compensation and the return of properties, artwork, and other valuables which were seized during Hitlers Reign.

I think that the Palestinian people deserve the same “Right-Of-Return” and the same sense of justice that the Jewish Folks have insisted upon within every courthouse in the land.

Never once did I ever hear a Jewish Person claim that the holocaust was too long ago, or the facts had changed on the ground as they made their compensation claims .... But that is what the Jewish Folks are telling the Palestinian People today.

"After the Germans murdered the Jews of Europe, they received the Marshall Plan and the Palestinians received the "Holocaust bill.""
–Richard Melson, Comment, February 23, 2011–
http://radioopensource.org/philip-weiss-a-jewish-argument-around-the-arab-revolt

And, let us not forget what happened after World War II and the holocaust ....

Many, many, of the same Jewish Folks who fled Europe during Hitler's rampage arrived in Hollywood and New York, and set up film studios. Hollywood financed, produced and distributed 90 percent of U.S. media in the early television days. (The ADL would prefer people say that many executives in the industry "happen to be Jewish" at the time.)
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/06/12/adl-spies

Many of the same people who had just experienced and fled from the discrimination, stereotyping and racism by Hitler and Goebbels, committed the identical type of "Branding-Crime" here in North America.

It was some of these same people who fed us images of First Nations People as being untrustworthy savages and who spoke with a forked-tongue and blacks being portrayed as inhuman. (I often refer to the racism and/or what happened to the blacks and other minorities within the media within North America (Between 1940 and 1970) as being a "Hollow-Cost", because it seems that nobody learned any lessons from Hitler's reign.

Have you ever seen a "scheming Jew" in a Hollywood movie?
".... there's a whole army of actors like Joe Pesce, that serve the niche of playing Italian Mafiosi. But no actors playing the scheming Jew because that is not a Hollywood Role. ..... The role of the scheming, subversive, money-loving Jew is just not allowed ...."
".... As a proud Jew, I want America to know about our accomplishment. Yes, we control Hollywood. Without us, you'd be flipping between "The 700 Club" and "Davey and Goliath" on TV all day...."
Who runs Hollywood? C'mon - latimes

There are a few other things which took place immediately after World War II and the holocaust and which fueled Anti-Semitism.

In 1948, and with Hitler dead less then 2 years, …. At the very heart of the newly formed country of Israel, .... at the highest levels of government, .... within the Israeli cabinet, the Jewish folks were actually talking about committing a holocaust against the Arabs and which is the exact same crimes as Hitler was being chastised for.

"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."
–-David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978–
–Israel Koenig, advisor to the Israeli Knesset, The Koenig Memorandum (Al Hamishmar newspaper, September 7, 1976)–

Many people dispute the above mentioned statement, and everybody "Lawyers-Up", and then it just becomes a contest between someone with one Phd after their name or others with 3 doctorate degrees battling it out in Mouse Land.

However; the "Palestine Holocaust" did take place regardless.

Letter from David Ben-Gurion to his son Amos
"When we acquire one thousand or 10,000 dunams, we feel elated. It does not hurt our feelings that by this acquisition we are not in possession of the whole land. This is because this increase in possession is of consequence not only in itself, but because through it we increase our strength, and every increase in strength helps in the possession of the land as a whole. The establishment of a state, even if only on a portion of the land, is the maximal reinforcement of our strength at the present time and a powerful boost to our historical endeavors to liberate the entire country."
"We shall admit into the state all the Jews we can. We firmly believe that we can admit more than two million Jews. We shall build a multi-faceted Jewish economy– agricultural, industrial, and maritime. We shall organize an advanced defense force—a superior army which I have no doubt will be one of the best armies in the world. At that point I am confident that we would not fail in settling in the remaining parts of the country, through agreement and understanding with our Arab neighbors, or through some other means."
Obtained from the Ben-Gurion Archives in Hebrew, and translated into English
By the Institute of Palestine Studies, Beirut
October 05, 1937
'We must expel Arabs and take their place': Institute for Palestine Studies published Ben Gurion letter advocating transfer in response to CAMERA criticism

Looting, Looting, and More Looting.

Jewish Folks Looted Arab Homes in the same way Hitler had done in Germany just a mere 3 years earlier.
The systematic looting of more than 60,000 Palestinian books by Israeli forces and the attempted destruction of Palestinian culture.
November 23, 2001
Looting, Looting, and More Looting - Palestine Remembered
https://electronicintifada.net/content/great-book-robbery-1948/9104

The Causes and Character of the Arab Exodus from Palestine: The Israel Defence Forces Intelligence Service Analysis of June 1948
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_a...e_creation_of_the_Palestinian_Refugee_problem

The Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians began (according to Israeli documents) on the 1st of December 1947.
391,000 had been uprooted and expelled by the time the 1948 War began despite the fact that 181 expressly forbade the alienation of property.
Knesset Speaker Reuven Rivlin’s admission: Israel “expelled Arabs” across Palestine in 1948 | Max Blumenthal
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Comment:
By Brewer August 05, 2011
UNGA resolution 181 passed on 29 November 1947. It recommended that the Security Council institute measures to partition Palestine and called for the end of the Mandate on 1st August 1948.
UNGA resolutions are recommendations only. 181 would not become enforceable until reconstituted as a Security Council resolution.
No populace would willingly cede sovereignty over half of its territory.
The notion that Palestinians contributed to the conflict by exercising their right of withholding consent for a demonstrably unjust proposal while the opposing faction were already driving civilians from their homes is post facto nonsense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_...es_Intelligence_Service_Analysis_of_June_1948
 
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Don't worry, like everything else he's done, this won't actually accomplish anything.

If you watch the speech though, he got so parched he could barely ****ing talk by the end of it.

God blesh de United Shtets. :lol:
 

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With that decision Trump has pretty much pissed off all the Muslims around the world, even the ones that were "moderate" so brace yourself for a Terrorist Attack USA.



Making Billionaire Builders new space to build again MEGA.
 

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With that decision Trump has pretty much pissed off all the Muslims around the world, even the ones that were "moderate" so brace yourself for a Terrorist Attack USA.



Making Billionaire Builders new space to build again MEGA.

Pretty much
 

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Trump's Russian handlers will be very happy, tonight. He has followed their play book to the letter and Russia will be the prime and probably only benefactor to this bizarre move.