Trump to offer Amnisty for DACA

Danbones

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Jeez! When does it stop?....that dem claim was BS!

"...Democratic leaders Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer — whose dinner with Trump Wednesday night was at the heart of the controversy — insisted there was discussion and even agreement on legislation that would offer eventual citizenship to the immigrants in question....

...In face of an intense backlash from conservatives inside the Capitol and out, Speaker Paul Ryan and other GOP House members adamantly insisted that there was no agreement to enshrine protections for the immigrants brought to America as children and now here illegally...

John Cornyn of Texas, the No. 2 Senate Republican, put it this way:
There was ‘‘a deal to make a deal.’’

Deal or no deal? Trump says he’s ‘fairly close’ to agreement on DACA
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/na...esday-night/IBTEH4ZYy2MZY6GhrxZzaP/story.html


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Nancy Pelosi garbles words, mispronounces countries in short speech

Oh well, look at the source.
 
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ZulFiqar786

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Amnesty implies an offence was committed. Most Mesoamericans have Indigeneous blood. This is their continent, they are morally free to live anywhere they want on it. There is no such thing as an illegal Indigenous or Mestizo person. If anyone is illegal it’s the Europeans.
 

Durry

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Everybody likes Whites of European decent, all kinds of people from all over the world want to go to, will even die trying, to get to White countries.

Muslims especially like crawling, sneaking into, or whatever, anything to get into Western White countries..

We build such great countries and are such nice generous people that Muslims will do anything to get into our countries.
 

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Amnesty implies an offence was committed. Most Mesoamericans have Indigeneous blood. This is their continent, they are morally free to live anywhere they want on it. There is no such thing as an illegal Indigenous or Mestizo person. If anyone is illegal it’s the Europeans.
Who would provide the welfare without the European's purse ?
 

Bar Sinister

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Everybody likes Whites of European decent, all kinds of people from all over the world want to go to, will even die trying, to get to White countries.

Muslims especially like crawling, sneaking into, or whatever, anything to get into Western White countries..

We build such great countries and are such nice generous people that Muslims will do anything to get into our countries.

100% of the Whites also came to Canada because it was such a great country. And BTW do you think all Muslims are not White?
 

ZulFiqar786

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100% of the Whites also came to Canada because it was such a great country. And BTW do you think all Muslims are not White?





Certainly there are Muslims who are of European or Caucasian descent. Phenotypically they are pretty much “White”. However, once you are a Muslim you have to dispense with your “whiteness”, because “whiteness” isn’t simply a genotype but also a mindset, a culture, a civilization and a social identity. No Muslim, no matter their genes, should be considered “white”. Once you are a Muslim, your loyalty is to the holy places, i.e., Mecca, Medina, Jerusalem. You have to dispense with any emotional attachment to Europe and Western civilization. Your heroes and models are no longer White philosophers or intellectuals, but the Semitic Prophets and Islamic saints. Muslims should even go against White European fashions and styles. For example, Muslim males should keep a beard. Shaving the beard is a European custom popularized by the Romans. Muslims shouldn’t wear European clothes like the tie and suit, but should wear dress associated with the Muslims, especially a skullcap, to identify them as Muslims. Muslims are meant to distinguish themselves in every way especially when they are living as minorities among the mass of undifferentiated “others”. Muslims who happen to be genetically “Caucasian” should do everything in their power to make the point that they are not “White” at least culturally because us brown Muslims have the advantage of our skin color in terms of being distinct from the Europeans, but Muslims with white skins need to pronounce their Muslim-ness even more in order to escape the real threat of assimilation and European habits.
 

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Amnesty implies an offence was committed. Most Mesoamericans have Indigeneous blood. This is their continent, they are morally free to live anywhere they want on it. There is no such thing as an illegal Indigenous or Mestizo person. If anyone is illegal it’s the Europeans.




The majority of Mexicans are of Uto-Aztek rather than Mesoamerican heritage. Many do not recognize the borders agreed to by the governments of Washington DC and Mexico City. In their various cultures, Aztlan is their home and it ranges from Utah all the way to central Mexico. Thus, in a sense you are correct, in their minds they are not committing a crime by venturing into the USA as that has always been a part of their ancestral land.
 

ZulFiqar786

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The majority of Mexicans are of Uto-Aztek rather than Mesoamerican heritage. Many do not recognize the borders agreed to by the governments of Washington DC and Mexico City. In their various cultures, Aztlan is their home and it ranges from Utah all the way to central Mexico. Thus, in a sense you are correct, in their minds they are not committing a crime by venturing into the USA as that has always been a part of their ancestral land.





Precisely. And don’t forget about the Mexican War which was a war of aggression by the Americans which captured the territory you delineated. These people that are being considered “illegal” have lived in this territory for centuries and centuries, long before the Europeans arrived. It is the height of injustice to treat them as illegals. We need to completely decolonize the American narrative.
 

Bar Sinister

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Certainly there are Muslims who are of European or Caucasian descent. Phenotypically they are pretty much “White”. However, once you are a Muslim you have to dispense with your “whiteness”, because “whiteness” isn’t simply a genotype but also a mindset, a culture, a civilization and a social identity. No Muslim, no matter their genes, should be considered “white”. Once you are a Muslim, your loyalty is to the holy places, i.e., Mecca, Medina, Jerusalem. You have to dispense with any emotional attachment to Europe and Western civilization. Your heroes and models are no longer White philosophers or intellectuals, but the Semitic Prophets and Islamic saints. Muslims should even go against White European fashions and styles. For example, Muslim males should keep a beard. Shaving the beard is a European custom popularized by the Romans. Muslims shouldn’t wear European clothes like the tie and suit, but should wear dress associated with the Muslims, especially a skullcap, to identify them as Muslims. Muslims are meant to distinguish themselves in every way especially when they are living as minorities among the mass of undifferentiated “others”. Muslims who happen to be genetically “Caucasian” should do everything in their power to make the point that they are not “White” at least culturally because us brown Muslims have the advantage of our skin color in terms of being distinct from the Europeans, but Muslims with white skins need to pronounce their Muslim-ness even more in order to escape the real threat of assimilation and European habits.


You are confusing religion and ethnicity. The two are not connected. Arabs are a root of the same stock as Jews and therefore Caucasian. And just in case you are interested the largest Muslim nation on the planet is Indonesia whose inhabitants don't so any of the things you suggest. Most Muslims in Canada dress like other Canadians just as American Muslims dress like other Americans.

BTW shaving was popularized in World War I as a health matter. It has nothing to do with the Romans. 19th Century Europeans were heavily bearded.

You also don't seem to realize that skin colour and religion are not necessarily related. Check out these images - they are all Muslims.








 

ZulFiqar786

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To the above poster, I don’t think you understood the import of my words, otherwise you would not be putting forward these strawman arguments. I said there are certainly Muslims that are white, but I was talking about “whiteness” as a state of mind and a culture, not as a skin color.
 

gopher

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The majority of Mexicans are of Uto-Aztek rather than Mesoamerican heritage. Many do not recognize the borders agreed to by the governments of Washington DC and Mexico City. In their various cultures, Aztlan is their home and it ranges from Utah all the way to central Mexico. Thus, in a sense you are correct, in their minds they are not committing a crime by venturing into the USA as that has always been a part of their ancestral land.


Aztlan stolen by imperialistic terrorists:


https://thetruthisfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/06/30/the-us-southwest-was-stolen-from-mexicans/
 

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There should be some permanent resolution of this problem. Should have been settled long ago.