Trump to Announce Carrier Plant Will Keep Jobs in U.S.

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So lefties are racist now? Who would have thunk it :laughing3:
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Racism is neither right-wing nor left-wing. If you weren't such a simpleton, you would know that. Your inability to defend your support of left-wing economics says volumes though. Thanks.
 
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Sarah Palin: Trump's Carrier deal is 'crony capitalism' - POLITICO

Sarah Palin in a classic neoconservative and libertarian. Donald Trump would be well advised to keep her and her ilk (like Mitt Romney.. and Paul Ryan) at arms length.

They represent the utterly failed privatized, deregulated, laissez-fair, free trade and regressively taxed system of trickle down political economy (exemplifed by Reaganomics).. which is really classic 18th Century British Liberalism.
 
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still better than barry subsidizing/bailing out companies in order to not allow them to fail... multiple times....

 
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Ford is the winner, you can have your Bronco in any color you want as long as it is black. I feel like I have heard that somewhere in the past.
 
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Cannuck said:
Is it any wonder that true conservatives like myself have little use for Trump economics. It's interesting that none of the Trumpites on this forward are willing to address their support of left-wing economic policy. They must be hiding in their safe spaces.
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It will be remembered that during the campaign it was the CONSERVATIVE National Review (along with Glenn Beck & others) who criticized Trump more than anyone or anything else. A great many right wingers defended Trump and saw him as the Savior of the USA but overlooked the fact that he said he was invest $ 2 trillion in infrastructural improvements - this as everybody knows is NOT a conservative remedy to social problems. It is a FDR remedy. Trump always was a political liberal-moderate and only adopted right wing ideology when it became fashionable and politically correct. As I have said enough times on this forum, contrary to popular myths, it is the right wing that is far more conformist and politically correct than anyone else.
 
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1000 jobs will remain in the U.S. .. for now, 1300 will move to Mexico.

I have a hard time calling this a success. You are, at best, slowing down the process of deindustrialization NOT reversing it. This was a skirmish at the front of an orderly retreat.

It uses some incentives, perhaps some threats of losing government contracts, to maintain some manufacturing but this is not a solution. First of all it does not address the foreign makers who can produce product at subsistence wages and with which Carrier will have to compete.

Most of all it is a selective, one off deal, and largely aimed at public relations. The ONLY real answer to rebuilding an integrated national industrial economy is TARIFFS, systematic, pemanent and purpose built. That is the way the American economy grew under the American System of Political Economy instituted by Alexander Hamilton and it is the ONLY way to reestablish equitable prosperity in America.

I'll take this as a first shot in an engagement that will have to go on for decades. If Trump deems some slip shod program of negotiating 'deals' with invidual firms threatening to move operations off shore as sufficient.. he will find himself completely unable to keep his campaign promises and he will be deemed as having been coopted by the NeoCons.

And he will find a more aggressive and tougher breed of economic nationalist moving around him to reclaim the nation. It's really up to him as to whether he'll lead or follow.
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The worst part is that poor Mexican workers are getting jobs with which to feed their families. What's the point of building a wall between neighbours when the jobs can freely move on the neighbour's side of the fence? After all, Jesus said, Hate thy neighbour. Or something like that. Or am I quoting that wrong?
 
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It's funny for those who want government to stay out of business, and who complained about 'socialists' who were into 'wealth redistribution' to be celebrating a government pouring money into businesses, but then again, who said people were logical.
 
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That's better than sounding like him. More like the face of some kid who can do nothing wrong. Compare that to the tears coming from his opposition.
 
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