Hi! -Just looking
Your comment concerning Gaza:
"The significance of the disengagement plan is the freezing of the peace process"
"And when you freeze that process, you prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state, and you prevent a discussion on the refugees, the borders and Jerusalem. Effectively, this whole package called the Palestinian state, with all that it entails, has been removed indefinitely from our agenda. And all this with authority and permission. All with a presidential blessing and the ratification of both houses of Congress."
"The disengagement is actually formaldehyde."
"It supplies the amount of formaldehyde that is necessary so there will not be a political process with the Palestinians."
"....In the fall of 2003 we understood that everything was stuck. And although by the way the Americans read the situation, the blame fell on the Palestinians, not on us, Arik [Sharon] grasped that this state of affairs could not last, that they wouldn't leave us alone, wouldn't get off our case. Time was not on our side. There was international erosion, internal erosion. Domestically, in the meantime, everything was collapsing. The economy was stagnant, and the Geneva Initiative had gained broad support. And then we were hit with the letters of officers and letters of pilots and letters of commandos [refusing to serve in the territories]. These were not weird kids with green ponytails and a ring in their nose with a strong odor of grass. These were people like Spector's group [Yiftah Spector, a renowned Air Force pilot who signed the pilot's letter]. Really our finest young people."
Weisglass does not deny that the main achievement of the Gaza plan is the freezing of the peace process in a "legitimate manner."
"That is exactly what happened," he said. "You know, the term `peace process' is a bundle of concepts and commitments. The peace process is the establishment of a Palestinian state with all the security risks that entails. The peace process is the evacuation of settlements, it's the return of refugees, it's the partition of Jerusalem. And all that has now been frozen.... what I effectively agreed to with the Americans was that part of the settlements would not be dealt with at all, and the rest will not be dealt with until the Palestinians turn into Finns. That is the significance of what we did."
By Ari Shavit
October 06, 2004
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=485491
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Diplomacy/4222.htm
If Jews "deserve" Israel because they perform rituals, follow traditions, and read texts genealogically related to those of a people expelled from the Levant thousands of years ago, shouldn't we all be giving our houses back to the indigenous tribes of the Americas? Maybe the Japanese should all slink to back to Central Asia and let the Ainu reinhabit all of Japan, as they did ten thousand years ago.
Regarding the Arab threat:
"People generally regard 5 June 1967 as the day the Six-day war began," .... "That is the official date. But, in reality, it started two- and-a-half years earlier, on the day Israel decided to act against the diversion of the Jordan."
--General Ariel Sharon--
"In June, 1967, we had a choice. The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him".
--Prime Minister Menachem Begin, August 1982 speech"--
"I do not believe Nasser wanted war. The two divisions which he sent into Sinai on May 14 would not have been enough to unleash an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it".
-- Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, Le Monde Newspaper, February 1968--
"Sixteen years of planning had gone into those initial eighty minutes. We lived with the plan, we slept on the plan, we ate the plan. Constantly we perfected it".
--General Mordechai Hod, Commander of the Israeli Air Force during the Six-Day War, Speech in 1978--
"We were not threatened with genocide on the eve of the six-day war, and we had never thought of such a possibility"
--General Haim Barlev, Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) Chief, April 1972--
“The entire story of the danger of extermination was invented in every detail and exaggerated a posteriori to justify the annexation of new Arab territory.”
---Mordecai Bentov, Israeli newspaper Al-Hamishmar, April 14, 1971--
“The thesis according to which the danger of genocide hung over us in June 1967, and according to which Israel was fighting for her very physical survival, was nothing but a bluff which was born and bred after the war.”
“Israel was never in real danger and there was no evidence that Egypt had any intention of attacking Israel …. Israeli intelligence knew that Egypt was not prepared for war.”
--General Peled, Political literary club address in Tel Aviv, 1972--
“If Nasser had not been stupid enough to give us a pretext to go to war, we would have created one within a year or 18 months.”
--General Chaim Herzog--
Why, really, was the USS Liberty attacked by Israel? - Alan Hart
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Hi! - Just Looking
You mentioned the hypocrisy pertaining to the wall ....
It is ironic that the Jewish Folks would be against BDS or a boycott ....
There was a time when Zionists Loved Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions.
This was long before the gas chambers were opened up ....
"The March 24, 1933 issue of The Daily Express of London described how Jewish leaders, in combination with powerful international Jewish financial interests, had launched a boycott of Germany for the express purpose of crippling her already precarious economy in the hope of bringing down the new Hitler regime."
And, let us not forget what happened after after World War II and the holocaust
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Many, many, of the same Jewish Folks who fled Europe during Hitler's rampage arrived in Hollywood and New York, and set up film studios. Hollywood financed, produced and distributed 90 percent of U.S. media in the early television days. (The ADL would prefer people say that many executives in the industry "happen to be Jewish" at the time.)
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/06/12/adl-spies
Many of the same people who had just experienced and fled from the discrimination, stereotyping and racism by Hitler and Goebbels, committed the identical type of "Branding-Crime" here in North America.
It was some of these same people who fed us images of First Nations People as being untrustworthy savages and who spoke with a forked-tongue and blacks being portrayed as inhuman. (I often refer to the racism and/or what happened to the blacks and other minorities within the media within North America (Between 1940 and 1970) as being a "Hollow-Cost", because it seems that nobody learned any lessons from Hitler's reign
There are a few other things which took place immediately after World War II and the holocaust and which fueled Anti-Semitism.
In 1948, and with Hitler dead less then 2 years, …. At the very heart of the newly formed country of Israel, .... at the highest levels of government, .... within the Israeli cabinet, the Jewish folks were actually talking about committing a holocaust against the Arabs and which is the exact same crimes as Hitler was being chastised for.
"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."
–-David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978–
–Israel Koenig, advisor to the Israeli Knesset, The Koenig Memorandum (Al Hamishmar newspaper, September 7, 1976)–
Letter from David Ben-Gurion to his son Amos
"When we acquire one thousand or 10,000 dunams, we feel elated. It does not hurt our feelings that by this acquisition we are not in possession of the whole land. This is because this increase in possession is of consequence not only in itself, but because through it we increase our strength, and every increase in strength helps in the possession of the land as a whole. The establishment of a state, even if only on a portion of the land, is the maximal reinforcement of our strength at the present time and a powerful boost to our historical endeavors to liberate the entire country."
"We shall admit into the state all the Jews we can. We firmly believe that we can admit more than two million Jews. We shall build a multi-faceted Jewish economy– agricultural, industrial, and maritime. We shall organize an advanced defense force—a superior army which I have no doubt will be one of the best armies in the world. At that point I am confident that we would not fail in settling in the remaining parts of the country, through agreement and understanding with our Arab neighbors, or through some other means."
Obtained from the Ben-Gurion Archives in Hebrew, and translated into English
By the Institute of Palestine Studies, Beirut
October 05, 1937
'We must expel Arabs and take their place': Institute for Palestine Studies published Ben Gurion letter advocating transfer in response to CAMERA criticism
Looting, Looting, and More Looting.
Jewish Folks Looted Arab Homes in the same way Hitler had done in Germany just a mere 3 years earlier.
The systematic looting of more than 60,000 Palestinian books by Israeli forces and the attempted destruction of Palestinian culture.
November 23, 2001
Looting, Looting, and More Looting - Palestine Remembered
https://electronicintifada.net/content/great-book-robbery-1948/9104
The Causes and Character of the Arab Exodus from Palestine: The Israel Defence Forces Intelligence Service Analysis of June 1948
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_a...e_creation_of_the_Palestinian_Refugee_problem
The Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians began (according to Israeli documents) on the 1st of December 1947.
391,000 had been uprooted and expelled by the time the 1948 War began despite the fact that 181 expressly forbade the alienation of property.
Knesset Speaker Reuven Rivlin’s admission: Israel “expelled Arabs” across Palestine in 1948 | Max Blumenthal
