trudeau crossed the floor and pushed aside NDP MPs

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I am not a liberal (partly because I hold myself to a higher standard).However, I have no problem defending PM Trudeau when it is a matter that I support.

I think this video clearly shows that the MPs were playing a childish game of blocking Brown.

I applaud PM Trudeau for doing what security should have been doing.

Yes, the NDP members were playing silly buggers James however, for the PM to cross the floor is a big NO NO in the first place. To literally grab the arm of another member then drag him through the aforementioned scrum in a fit of pique was about the stupidest stunt he's pulled yet and nothing to be proud of in the least.
 

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I believe that his apology for the elbow is sincere. Are you suggesting it isn't?

Of the multiple apologies he's now given, yeah I'd think by now he was sincere as all get out. He may still be wet behind the ears but he has to know that his image took a big hit and he's got some real make-up time coming.
 

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Of the multiple apologies he's now given, yeah I'd think by now he was sincere as all get out. He may still be wet behind the ears but he has to know that his image took a big hit and he's got some real make-up time coming.

Not if poll numbers don't go down.

It didn't seem to hurt Ford's rating very much and that was way worse

Ford's numbers went down because he was an imbecile (like those that voted for him) and had no tact whatsoever.
 

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The irony of all this is that Trudeau's outburst will now be referred to a parliamentary committee for their consideration. That committee is in the midst of a Liberal-mandated study to make the House of Commons more "family-friendly." But before they can make the House more family-friendly, they'll be asked what to do with a prime minster who tells MPs in that House to "get the fukk out of my way."

A committee stacked with Libs - I imagine he'll get a fair hearing. :lol:
 

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les wurd:

Everything that Trudeau does, everything that Trudeau says, everything he projects, his whole meticulously crafted persona, is calculated for affect. And it is usually orchestrated and choreographed by someone else, most notably Gerald Butts. He has no concept of how to be genuine because he’s been performing all his life.

He may love his wife and children, as best he knows how, but it’s still all about him. He’s the center of the Universe and world is obligated to validate him. So, to that end, he pretends genuineness.

That, of course, is the definition of a sociopath.

The trouble is, he’s not very good at it. Most sociopaths are far better at hiding their true character than he is.

Of course he did get elected, so one has to wonder how perceptive the average Canadian is. Are we truly a nation of idiots? Sometimes I think we may just be.
 

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les wurd:

Everything that Trudeau does, everything that Trudeau says, everything he projects, his whole meticulously crafted persona, is calculated for affect. And it is usually orchestrated and choreographed by someone else, most notably Gerald Butts. He has no concept of how to be genuine because he’s been performing all his life.

He may love his wife and children, as best he knows how, but it’s still all about him. He’s the center of the Universe and world is obligated to validate him. So, to that end, he pretends genuineness.

That, of course, is the definition of a sociopath.

The trouble is, he’s not very good at it. Most sociopaths are far better at hiding their true character than he is.

Of course he did get elected, so one has to wonder how perceptive the average Canadian is. Are we truly a nation of idiots? Sometimes I think we may just be.

There is no question about it. We are.
 

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yes because that troll clamors to remain significant, current and on the front lines of stuff.


anyway...

"As long as we see MPs as a pile of red, blue and orange blocks supporting aspirants to control “the government,” Trudeau’s action appears merely highly impolitic bad manners. But it is far worse. It is an attack on the integrity of those we elect to control the increasingly imperious executive".


John Robson: Trudeau’s outburst was not just ill-mannered. It was revealing | National Post

Joyce Napier was talking to Mercedes on PP today regarding the government's attempt to take control of the House which Motion 6 was attempting to do. As she mentioned it went against everything the Liberals have been telling us about openness and transparency. It was nothing less than an attempt to muzzle the opposition and as John Oliver later noted on the same program - without the opposition all we have is a dictatorship.

Tempest in a teaspoon.

Ah...........but were it Mr Harper who had done this.................it would be a holocaust.

A number of slow motion analyses are making the rounds now, clearly showing the unscrupulous tactics employed by the NDP. When are they going to step up and acknowledge their part in this? As for Ms Brosseau taking a dive for the team, maybe she should grow up too.

The NDP did not come out of this looking good at all, Nick. That still does not excuse the PM's behavior. He should have stayed in his seat. What came after he made the decision to leave it was pure unbridled hubris on show.
 

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There is no question about it. We are.

the average meatheads son.

not me of course.

but those fukkin' 40 percenters, walking around with dried drool chin stains, stoner eyes and summer toques...well sure.
 

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Yes, I've done that and you know what? I immediately turned around and apologized Cliffy because I knew what I had done - Justin knew he had elbowed someone and accidental though it was, the polite, the Canadian way would have been to apologize on the spot.


I think it could have happened w/o him realizing at the time he did it! :) (He likely had more on his mind than you or I have when we do it in Walmart)

Oh yeah..............like that is gonna happen. :lol::lol:


Just a suggestion for his own benefit! :) :)

A pretty mild act of violence by comparison. :) :)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawinigan_Handshake
 

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I think it could have happened w/o him realizing at the time he did it! :) (He likely had more on his mind than you or I have when we do it in Walmart)

First of all I've been in a Walmart exactly once in my life and that was more than enough. I don't do big box stores. Secondly, he wasn't in a large crowd of sales-hungry shoppers - he was on the floor of the House of Commons. Oh he knew what he had done all right, he just didn't have the sense of mind to stop and apologize. And frankly, I don't care if it was woman or a man. It was rude and he knew it.


JLM .........JLM.................they all but loathe each other. Nope, he'll closet himself with his handler Butts, take a dressing down from Sophie then be right back to his sunny ways but this time he will be aware that clouds are just over the horizon. I hope.
 

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Take a look at the description at the bottom of the video






A caption doesn't make it an event! :)

JLM .........JLM.................they all but loathe each other. Nope, he'll closet himself with his handler Butts, take a dressing down from Sophie then be right back to his sunny ways but this time he will be aware that clouds are just over the horizon. I hope.


A little tongue in cheek there, Mowich......................................this incident is way too 'serious'. :) :)
 

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Lol @ weak diversionary comparisons to transit and walmart.

no physical repercussions in the house.

try grabbing a dood in the subway or bumping a chicks boob at walmart in front of her friends. really? heh.

#getreal
 

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It's truly sad that the conbots are sinking this low.


Thanks goodness for Andrew Coyne:

I’d like to think the MPs involved are merely playing a vastly cynical game: exploiting the opening Trudeau’s brain cramp had given them to tarnish his reputation; turning a moment of incidental contact between two people such as goes on every day on the subway into a clash between the sexes; wielding the shaming buzzwords of gender politics against each other like knives, in the way they have all learned to do (though some more expertly than others); elevating the martyred Brosseau into a victim of violence, in callous disregard for its actual victims.

I’d like to think that, because it would be preferable to what I suspect is the case: that these people have actually come to believe the rubbish they are spouting.(see above)


Andrew Coyne: Hopefully MPs are merely playing a vastly cynical game over Trudeau’s shenanigans
 

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ah yes, mithter coyne the cbc-shill again.

Trudeau also has three half-siblings — Kyle Kemper and Alicia Kemper, from his mother's second marriage; and Sarah Coyne, whose mother, constitutional lawyer Deborah Coyne, was in a relationship with Pierre Trudeau for some 15 years.

The family tree has other notable if remote, branches. Deborah Coyne — who made a run for the Liberal leadership before joining the Green Party as a policy adviser — was once married to veteran journalist Michael Valpy, and is a cousin of the National Post's Andrew Coyne. Valpy and Andrew Coyne both contribute to, or appear on, CBC News.

anyway...knowing where his sunny bread gets buttered.