Trade ministers pledge to harness Commonwealth advantage at historic meeting - See mo

[White_Unifier]

I'd rather trade with a country with which we have a trade deficit. That means they actually produce stuff we need and with no tariffs and other barriers, we can therefore access what we need more efficiently.

And 45% with the EU is no small number.

But yes, get Brexit over with and start looking for other markets. You've crossed the Rubicon, so make the best of it. CANZUK and Commonwealth trade are the next best thing for you.

 

[Blackleaf]

I'd rather trade with a country with which we have a trade deficit. That means they actually produce stuff we need and with no tariffs and other barriers, we can therefore access what we need more efficiently.

And 45% with the EU is no small number.

But yes, get Brexit over with and start looking for other markets. You've crossed the Rubicon, so make the best of it. CANZUK and Commonwealth trade are the next best thing for you.

Trade with the Commonwealth is better than trade with the EU. For a start, the Commonwealth is booming, and overtook the Eurozone in economic size in 2013. Also, Britain can do trade deals with Commonwealth and other countries very quickly whereas. As Canada has found out, it takes many years to forge a trade deal with the slow, cumbersome EU.

 

[Curious Cdn]

India is richer than the UK, is it? Where did you get that idea from?

As for much smaller Canada and Australia overtaking Britain: in 2050, Britain is predicted to have the world's sixth largest economy (it's currently the fifth) whereas Canada will no longer be in the Top 10 economies and Australia still won't be in the Top 10.

India is clearly a future superpower and Britain is a future Spain. Wave "bye-bye" as India zooms past you, forever. Canada, Australia .... the future belongs to them. Britain is a spent, once-upon-a-time global power.

Anyway, you've proven my point.Ths British would never approach a negotiation like this as an agreement of equals but more as a relationship between the ruler and the ruled. Who the hell needs that? Who benefits from a relationship like that, other than Britain? Why don't you get into a trading relationship with your next-door-neighbours? Oh, I forgot. The British public are too whiny and racist to get along with their neighbours.

By the way, it is still in the distant future but Canada has an abundance of THE ultimate resource,one which is becoming increasingly scarce and that is absolutely necessary for the continuation of civilization. That is fresh water.

 

[White_Unifier]

Trade with the Commonwealth is better than trade with the EU. For a start, the Commonwealth is booming, and overtook the Eurozone in economic size in 2013. Also, Britain can do trade deals with Commonwealth and other countries very quickly whereas. As Canada has found out, it takes many years to forge a trade deal with the slow, cumbersome EU.

But for the UK, the EU enjoys the advantage of low transportation costs compared to Canada, India, and especially Australia and New Zealand. Canada will always depend more on the US, Australia and New Zealand on Indonesia, and India on China for example. You can't ignore your geographic advantages.

India is clearly a future superpower and Britain is a future Spain. Wave "bye-bye" as India zooms past you, forever. Canada, Australia .... the future belongs to them. Britain is a spent, once-upon-a-time global power.

Anyway, you've proven my point.Ths British would never approach a negotiation like this as an agreement of equals but more as a relationship between the ruler and the ruler. Who the hell needs that? Who benefits from a relationship like that, other than Britain? Why don't you get into a trading relationship with your next-door-neighbours? Oh, I forgot. The British public are too whiny and racist to get along with their neighbours.

By the way, it is still in the distant future but Canada has an abundance of THE ultimate resource,one which is becoming increasingly scarce and that is absolutely necessary for the continuation of civilization. That is fresh water.

The only reason Canada is doing well is a recognition that sovereignty is not there to sit on a pedestal as it does in North Korea. Sovereignty is there to be traded to our advantage. That's what gave us the FTA, NAFTA, CETA, etc.

Unfortunately with Leitch, Canada risks going the way of the UK and the US, sadly.

 

[Curious Cdn]

But for the UK, the EU enjoys the advantage of low transportation costs compared to Canada, India, and especially Australia and New Zealand. Canada will always depend more on the US, Australia and New Zealand on Indonesia, and India on China for example. You can't ignore your geographic advantages.



The only reason Canada is doing well is a recognition that sovereignty is not there to sit on a pedestal as it does in North Korea. Sovereignty is there to be traded to our advantage. That's what gave us the FTA, NAFTA, CETA, etc.

Unfortunately with Leitch, Canada risks going the way of the UK and the US, sadly.

Leitch is merely a passing fad, popular with the extreme right wing 10-15% fringe of Canadians.

 

[Blackleaf]

India is clearly a future superpower and Britain is a future Spain. Wave "bye-bye" as India zooms past you, forever. Canada, Australia .... the future belongs to them. Britain is a spent, once-upon-a-time global power.

Anyway, you've proven my point.Ths British would never approach a negotiation like this as an agreement of equals but more as a relationship between the ruler and the ruled.

Britain holds most of the cards in the upcoming negotiations. Remember they need us - with our booming economy and London and our military - more than we need them.

The British public are too whiny and racist to get along with their neighbours.

Neighbours. Is that our same neighbours who, when they aren't trying to invade us, are sending their fishing fleets into what used to be British waters so they can steal all our fish and decimate our once-mighty fishing fleet whilst demanding we pay them billions of pounds every year to fund their inefficient farmers and to plant olive groves?

By the way, it is still in the distant future but Canada has an abundance of THE ultimate resource,one which is becoming increasingly scarce and that is absolutely necessary for the continuation of civilization. That is fresh water.

Antarctica has 70% of the world's fresh water, but I'm not expexting that to become an economic behemoth anytime soon.

But for the UK, the EU enjoys the advantage of low transportation costs compared to Canada, India, and especially Australia and New Zealand. Canada will always depend more on the US, Australia and New Zealand on Indonesia, and India on China for example. You can't ignore your geographic advantages.

Britain has traditionally been an outward-looking, global nation, partaking in global trade, unlike our more inward-looking neighbours.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Britain holds most of the cards in the upcoming negotiations.

If that is true, no one will bother to negotiate with you for anything. Keep rowing your island away from Europe. Maybe, you will manage to find favourable trade deals in Sub-Saharan Africa or Micronesia.

 

[Blackleaf]

Britain holds most of the cards in the upcoming negotiations.

If that is true, no one will bother to negotiate with you for anything. Keep rowing your island away from Europe. Maybe, you will manage to find favourable trade deals in Sub-Saharan Africa or Micronesia.

We don't have to negotiate anything. Theresa May could have got us out of the EU by now. Instead of going through the rigmarole of triggering Article 50 and then going through a two year negotiations process before we leave, there's nothing to stop her sending a letter or email to Drunker Juncker simply stating: "We're out of the EU now. See ya!"

Britain holds the aces in Brexit talks

The euro crisis, Labour’s failure and Trump’s victory give Theresa May a winning hand

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/britain-holds-the-aces-in-brexit-talks/

 

[Curious Cdn]

We don't have to negotiate anything. Theresa May could have got us out of the EU by now. Instead of going through the rigmarole of triggering Article 50 and then going through a two year negotiations process before we leave, there's nothing to stop her sending a letter or email to Drunker Juncker simply stating: "We're out of the EU now. See ya!"

Britain holds the aces in Brexit talks

The euro crisis, Labour’s failure and Trump’s victory give Theresa May a winning hand

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/britain-holds-the-aces-in-brexit-talks/

You will be all alone, afterward. Why should any of us beat a path to your door to trade with you? What is in it for us?

 

[Blackleaf]

You will be all alone, afterward. Why should any of us beat a path to your door to trade with you? What is in it for us?

Well why WOULDN'T you want to trade with us? Or, to be more precise, why would you stop trading with us? Canada already trades with the UK. The United Kingdom is Canada's third-biggest trading partner. In fact, the United Kingdom is BY FAR Canada's biggest European trading partner. You export around six times more to the UK than you do to your next biggest European trading partner Germany. Are you going to suddenly decide that you don't want to export to your lucrative UK market anymore? Total trade between Canada and UK is $25.2 billion annually. Between Canada and Germany it's just £18.8 billion annually.

 

[mentalfloss]

The United Kingdom is the largest manufacturing country in the Commonwealth:

Comparing the EU - a political union of non-sovereign states with its own flag, national anthem, currency, capital city, parliament and all the other trappings of statehood - with the Commonwealth - a loose confederation of sovereignj states (bar the UK until its gains its independence and sovereignty from the EU) - is just bonkers.

It's not bonkers at all, you piece of wanking bollocks.

The arrangement that they are proposing reduces your country's independence, fullest of the stops.

 

[White_Unifier]

Britain holds most of the cards in the upcoming negotiations. Remember they need us - with our booming economy and London and our military - more than we need them.



Neighbours. Is that our same neighbours who, when they aren't trying to invade us, are sending their fishing fleets into what used to be British waters so they can steal all our fish and decimate our once-mighty fishing fleet whilst demanding we pay them billions of pounds every year to fund their inefficient farmers and to plant olive groves?



Antarctica has 70% of the world's fresh water, but I'm not expexting that to become an economic behemoth anytime soon.



Britain has traditionally been an outward-looking, global nation, partaking in global trade, unlike our more inward-looking neighbours.

Ideally, you trade with everyone. But when push comes to shove, why would you sacrifice the local advantage of low transportation costs for trade with far-flung lands where transportation costs will naturally be higher?

You will be all alone, afterward. Why should any of us beat a path to your door to trade with you? What is in it for us?

Canada should unilaterally drop tariffs against all countries. Of course tariffs are pretty low worldwide anyway so small benefit there, but a small benefit is still a benefit.

Make Canada a visa-free zone too. This would attract more tourism and talent.

Then let the UK do what it wants. If it raises tariffs against Canada, we will simply compete where tariffs are ineffective like in tourism for example. Unless the UK intends to charge a tax to anyone who dares leave the UK for travel?

 

[Curious Cdn]

Make Canada a visa-free zone too. This would attract more tourism and talent.

The Yanks will go ape-shyte berserk. They'll build a three trillion dollar wall, a mari usque ad mare and overfly our cities and towns with armed drones day and night.

 

[White_Unifier]

Make Canada a visa-free zone too. This would attract more tourism and talent.

The Yanks will go ape-shyte berserk. They'll build a three trillion dollar wall, a mari usque ad mare and overfly our cities and towns with armed drones day and night.

Think of the resources Canada could export to the US for the US to build the wall!

 

[Curious Cdn]

Think of the resources Canada could export to the US for the US to build the wall!

We could build it out of our empty beer bottles, eh?

 

[taxslave]

Well why WOULDN'T you want to trade with us? Or, to be more precise, why would you stop trading with us? Canada already trades with the UK. The United Kingdom is Canada's third-biggest trading partner. In fact, the United Kingdom is BY FAR Canada's biggest European trading partner. You export around six times more to the UK than you do to your next biggest European trading partner Germany. Are you going to suddenly decide that you don't want to export to your lucrative UK market anymore? Total trade between Canada and UK is $25.2 billion annually. Between Canada and Germany it's just £18.8 billion annually.

I don't know about trading but we will sell to anyone that has cash. If you are willing to work for three bowls of rice and a coke a day we will even send you some of our vast resources to be returned to us as manufactured goods.

Make Canada a visa-free zone too. This would attract more tourism and talent.

All this would do is lower our standard of living and raise the crime rate.

 

[White_Unifier]

I don't know about trading but we will sell to anyone that has cash. If you are willing to work for three bowls of rice and a coke a day we will even send you some of our vast resources to be returned to us as manufactured goods.

Make Canada a visa-free zone too. This would attract more tourism and talent.

All this would do is lower our standard of living and raise the crime rate.

It would lower the cost of living and create a booming economy.

And grow the tax base, since a visa-free zone is just that, not the same as granting easy citizenship or permanent residency. This means they must be self-sufficient.