Top scientist gives up on creationists.

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Top scientist gives up on creationists

James Randerson, science correspondent
Tuesday May 30, 2006
The Guardian


A leading British scientist said yesterday that he had given up trying to persuade creationists that Darwin's theory is correct after repeatedly being misrepresented and, he said, branded a liar.

Speaking at the Guardian Hay festival at Hay-on-Wye, Herefordshire, the evolutionary biologist Steve Jones spoke of his frustrations when trying to debate with religious opponents.

"I don't engage with creationists directly," he said, saying that, when he had, they had frequently quoted him out of context or accused him of lying. "If somebody has decided to believe something - whatever the evidence - then there is nothing you can do about it."

The University College London professor spoke to the provocative title, Why Creationism is Wrong and Evolution is Right. He pointed out that acceptance of Darwin's theory on a global scale was a "minority belief". According to polls, 100 million Americans believe in creationism.

His talk laid out some of the evidence for evolution, such as that of changes in the HIV virus after infecting people. He also hinted at a puzzle thrown up by the human genome project. Far from the hundreds of thousands of genes many geneticists expected, there seem to be around 30,000.

Another revelation was the notion that the chimpanzee genome project has shown that women are closer to chimps then men. Prof Jones explained that is because the X chromosome has changed less than the Y chromosome since we split from a common ancestor with chimps. Women have two X chromosomes compared with XY in men.

The most important difference between evolutionists and creationists, Prof Jones concluded, is that scientists are always prepared to say, "I don't know".

"If there weren't any unknown parts of evolution, bits we don't understand, it wouldn't be a science," he said, "That's one thing that believers never say, because it's all written down in a big book."

In 1997, Prof Jones was awarded the Royal Society's Michael Faraday prize, the UK's foremost award for communicating science to the public.

guardian.co.uk
 

Dexter Sinister

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Kind of too bad, in a way, though I can readily understand where he's coming from. If you withdraw from the field, the other side wins by default. On the other hand, why continue if the other side cheats outrageously? I hope he's simply decided that debating creationists directly is futile but will continue to promote science and reason in other ways. That's essentially the position another famous countryman of yours, Richard Dawkins, has taken. The deeper issue is not that the creationists have it all wrong, but that so few people understand how science works that the creationists claims sound reasonable to them.
 

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I understand his frustration in trying to reason with unreasonable people.

Early on, I decided it was pointless and fruitless to have a discussion with drunks, or religious people. I wonder how that makes drunks feel... lol

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