Tired of hearing about 9/11 (2nd thread)

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This thread is to be used to discuss the topic stated in the title only.

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I hope your sick of hearing about 9/11 ,because im not.!!! Im sick of the people who try to say that it was "NOT A INSIDE JOB" because it was ...!!!
This footage explains how you were all duped into believing the lies told.
computer graphics of the videos that were broadcast ,prove this to be the case,in this next video the nose out of the second plane can clearly be seen exiting the tower after passing through a steel framed building.

HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE.???

Apart from computer graphics and human error ,the error being that they could not stop the broadcast of this monumental FUK up.

FUK up because of human reaction times because live broadcasts have a 17 second delay enough to retain or discard a shot but not enough to DOUBLE-CHECK IT

After the first broadcast the GOOD people at CNN try to cover up the nose out of the plane with there screen banner.?in the next broadcast, also two different broadcasts fade to black at precisely the time when the plane hits ,how is this possible two separate broadcasts having technical difficulty's at THE SAME TIME..!!! at the exact time the plane hits the tower, i smell a rat and the rat is a fake that has been swallowed by "AMERICA"

WATCH THIS.!!!!!! FIRST....!

BEFORE YOU COMMENT.

YOU WILL BE

SEPTEMBER CLUES NEW Pt.A
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I am tired of hearing about the 9/11 thing and would like to move on to the trials and executions.

That would be a step up in my opinion too.!complacency about this topic is becoming rife, as more and more time goes on ,but ppl don't seem to realise that,none of this has ever been addressed ,talked about yes.!! Constantly but nothing done, the commissions report was a dam joke,i saw a video the other day were a guy had done some analysis of the metal that was from the towers in conclusion he said there was a strong case for believing thermite was used,also did you hear about Kenny Johannemann the caretaker supposed to have committed suicide ,he was one of the witnesses that said he heard explosions ,

9/11 No plane key witness commits suicide(or murdered??)

Scientists Examine the Molten Steel that Lingered for Weeks Underneath WTC 1, 2 & ...
 

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That would be a step up in my opinion too.!complacency about this topic is becoming rife, as more and more time goes on ,but ppl don't seem to realise that,none of this has ever been addressed ,talked about yes.!! Constantly but nothing done, the commissions report was a dam joke,i saw a video the other day were a guy had done some analysis of the metal that was from the towers in conclusion he said there was a strong case for believing thermite was used,also did you hear about Kenny Johannemann the caretaker supposed to have committed suicide ,he was one of the witnesses that said he heard explosions ,

9/11 No plane key witness commits suicide(or murdered??)

Scientists Examine the Molten Steel that Lingered for Weeks Underneath WTC 1, 2 & ...


Everybody has access to the material. Exposure to it is by choice, you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink So there are many alleged crimescenes that can fascinate an amateur investigator, most of them are overcrown with weeds very nicely so it takes forever to find a potatoe. I think the money is the most reliable trail and psycology and history and the news if you've got time to sift through meters of articles.
Anyway if you're happy doing your thing that's fine at least your not doing drugs and hanging arround the mall.:lol:
 

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Everybody has access to the material. Exposure to it is by choice, you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink So there are many alleged crimescenes that can fascinate an amateur investigator, most of them are overcrown with weeds very nicely so it takes forever to find a potatoe. I think the money is the most reliable trail and psycology and history and the news if you've got time to sift through meters of articles.
Anyway if you're happy doing your thing that's fine at least your not doing drugs and hanging arround the mall.:lol:

Hey dont knock drugs some of my best friends are drugs lol,but seriously since this 9/11 thing started don't you think that the American constitution has been dismantled by this administration and your liberty's of freedom have been squashed,more so because of it this so called war on terror is a joke how can you have a war on terror .?who is terror not a definable enemy is it ,now any body can be labeled a terrorist just for having a political view that is different,now you can be thrown in jail without being charged or able to confront your accuser indefenatly your legal right to representation denied and government may monitor your conversations between you and your lawyer,government may seize and search papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigations,there is no longer freedom of information to boot.all because of 9/11 don't that make you think that this was staged to happen to put in order these controls i do.!!!
 

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The senators said the new guidelines would allow the F.B.I. to open an investigation of an American, conduct surveillance, pry into private records and take other investigative steps “without any basis for suspicion.” The plan “might permit an innocent American to be subjected to such intrusive surveillance based in part on race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, or on protected First Amendment activities,” the letter said. It was signed by Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts and Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island.

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What would be their reason for snooping, if 9/11 was staged and no real terrorists existed?
 

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The senators said the new guidelines would allow the F.B.I. to open an investigation of an American, conduct surveillance, pry into private records and take other investigative steps “without any basis for suspicion.” The plan “might permit an innocent American to be subjected to such intrusive surveillance based in part on race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, or on protected First Amendment activities,” the letter said. It was signed by Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts and Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island.

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What would be their reason for snooping, if 9/11 was staged and no real terrorists existed?

to allow agents to open a national security or criminal investigation against someone without any clear basis for suspicion,just like i said before your constitutional rights have been dismantled by this administration and your liberty's of freedom have been squashed
In 2002, John Ashcroft, then the attorney general, allowed F.B.I. agents to visit public sites like mosques or monitor Web sites in the course of national security investigations. The next year, Mr. Bush issued guidelines allowing officials to use ethnicity or race in “narrow” circumstances to detect a terrorist threat.

all these measures have taken place after the supposed terrorist attacks of 9/11
slowly but surly your rights are being eaten up bit by bit,it wont be long before mr G.W.Bush imposes Martial Law then he will cancel the elections and stay in office this war in Georgia that's going on is a count down to ww III ,Russia Gives Nato 21 Days To Leave Black Sea this is the start of the UN and NATOs involvement in implementing NWO plans to start it, there ultimate goal ,anything that you read now about 9/11 investigations is just to quell the uprising of political activists attempts to get to the bottom of 9/11, just like the original commissions report on 9/11 anything said will not address any of the issues that need investigating,as most of the original evidence is either destroyed or witnesses like Kenny Johannemann are dead in fake or mysterious circumstances ,these are just my thoughts on what's unfolding ,you should take a look at this a whistle-blowers testimony on what's really happening right under our noses.?

Dr. Deagle PT 1 of 4

This is the most important and comprehensive video you will ever see. Dr. Deagle is a highly intelligent whistle-blower with info that you need to know about nutrition, extraterrestrails, New World Order, Moon Base, Mars colony, Deep Underground Military Bases, super soldiers, GMO, Illuminati 4th dimensional workings, even modified attack baboons. Watch part 2 of 4

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Granada forum - Dr. Deagle - 4 of 4
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This is the most important and comprehensive video you will ever see. Dr. Deagle is a highly intelligent whistle-blower with info that you all need to know about nutrition, extraterrestrials, New World Order, Moon Base, Mars colony, Deep Underground Military Bases, super soldiers, GMO, Illuminati 4th dimensional workings, even modified attack baboons.

Part 1 of 4:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2221852945040630461

Part 2 of 4:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2585664107547943684

Part 3 of 4:
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Part 4 of 4:
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Yes, I'm pretty much fed up with hearing about 9/11, and this will be my only post in this thread. WTC towers 1 and 2 were hit by large airplanes traveling at high speed, they did not collapse at free fall speed, WTC 7 was hit and heavily damaged by debris from the collapse of towers 1 and 2 and burned for hours before collapsing itself, and the fortress of the Pentagon was hit by another airplane that pretty much disintegrated on impact, which is what could be expected when a relatively flimsy aluminum structure hits a solid concrete wall. There's no conspiracy that involved the U.S. government, it was purely and simply a carefully planned act of terrorism that worked only because security and information sharing among assorted security agencies was so sloppy. Do not attribute to malice what is adequately explained by incompetence. The collapses in no way resembled controlled demolitions, and any claims to the contrary are just ignorant paranoid fantasy. All this conspiracy crap around the events of 9/11 is just another illustration of Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is sh1t. Internet sources are no exception. There are legitimate sources of technical and engineering information about what happened on 9/11, but Google and YouTube videos are not among them. Anyone who believes everything he finds on the Internet is an ignorant idiot. The Internet is large and complex enough that you can find support on it somewhere for pretty much any position you'd care to take, and an uncritical acceptance of whatever you find will invariably lead you astray.
 

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Yes, I'm pretty much fed up with hearing about 9/11, and this will be my only post in this thread. WTC towers 1 and 2 were hit by large airplanes traveling at high speed, they did not collapse at free fall speed, WTC 7 was hit and heavily damaged by debris from the collapse of towers 1 and 2 and burned for hours before collapsing itself, and the fortress of the Pentagon was hit by another airplane that pretty much disintegrated on impact, which is what could be expected when a relatively flimsy aluminum structure hits a solid concrete wall. There's no conspiracy that involved the U.S. government, it was purely and simply a carefully planned act of terrorism that worked only because security and information sharing among assorted security agencies was so sloppy. Do not attribute to malice what is adequately explained by incompetence. The collapses in no way resembled controlled demolitions, and any claims to the contrary are just ignorant paranoid fantasy. All this conspiracy crap around the events of 9/11 is just another illustration of Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is sh1t. Internet sources are no exception. There are legitimate sources of technical and engineering information about what happened on 9/11, but Google and YouTube videos are not among them. Anyone who believes everything he finds on the Internet is an ignorant idiot. The Internet is large and complex enough that you can find support on it somewhere for pretty much any position you'd care to take, and an uncritical acceptance of whatever you find will invariably lead you astray.

Sorry Dexter Sinister contrary to your beliefs that Sturgeon's Law and your other favourite Occam's razor, do not account for every thing on the internet have you seen this site.? i doubt it as you don't believe any thing on the web do you .?????

http://patriotsquestion911.com/

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But then again all these professional people are all CONSPIRACY THEORISTS airnt they.?
IN YOUR OPINION. SO WHY BOTHER LOOKING AT THE EVIDENCE THEY SUGGEST, AS ITS ALL AS YOU SAY
"90% of everything is sh1t"
 

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Okay, I was wrong, I'll make one more post here. You're not sorry at all. You're a credulous, ignorant idiot who leaves anonymous insults with this board's reputation feature. I know of no good reason to take you seriously.

Your right im not sorry to you for anything your total repugnance and inability to see anything other then what DEXTER thinks is unbelieveable.140+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
530+ Engineers and Architects
120+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals
300+ Professors Question 9/11
210+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members
160+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals

All these people are wrong and Dexters right
You're a credulous, ignorant idiot who leaves anonymous insults with this board's reputation feature. I know of no good reason to take you seriously.
The only credulous, ignorant idiot who I know of no good reason to take seriously is you you pompous ass," Dexter ".Nothing you ever say impresses me you may hoodwink others into thinking you have great knowledge, me personally think your a fool, and has little or no regard for anyone other then your self,the very fact that your internet skills are as limited as your reasoning, makes me wonder why you ever got connected to the web in the first place, seeing as its full of people who believe everything they finds on the Internet,and are ignorant idiots.! where you got the idea that they believe everything is anyone's guess, god knows where you get yours, but then again you don't believe in god either do you so like they say there is no reasoning with a fool so i will stop trying with you gooday.
 

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Well, if the thread is about the 'title' only, then:

Yes, I'm sick of hearing about 9/11, especially the wacko conspiracy theories spouted by people who know nothing about engineering, who always quote some 'experts', who all seem to forget that things never turn out quite the way they were designed.

As soon as I saw the buring building, about 1/2 hr after it was hit, I said, "that's going to come down really soon..."

Any engineer with any sense could see that it would happen.
 

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Well, if the thread is about the 'title' only, then:

Yes, I'm sick of hearing about 9/11, especially the wacko conspiracy theories spouted by people who know nothing about engineering, who always quote some 'experts', who all seem to forget that things never turn out quite the way they were designed.

As soon as I saw the buring building, about 1/2 hr after it was hit, I said, "that's going to come down really soon..."

Any engineer with any sense could see that it would happen.

Let's discuss your wacko conspiracy theroy belief/problem then. Do you deny the conspiracy to destroy these buildings?
 

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Here is a newed video for anybody not tired.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2144933190875239407

So what would be free-fall speed for 110 story buildings, these 2 fell in about 15 seconds. Somebody will have to answer for Dexter as he has bowed out of any further contributions.
If a 47 story building falls in 8 seconds then even 15 seconds for a building twice that tall would still seem to be very close to free-fall speed
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/collapses/freefall.html