"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds; and the pessimist fears this is true." - James Branch Cabell
This is what I've been trying to tell everyone.
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"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds; and the pessimist fears this is true." - James Branch Cabell
Mother Nature certainly helps in population decrease....just think of the annual flooding in Bangladesh....or regular earthquakes...or widespread disease.
The more populated the world becomes and the smaller the global village becomes,the more likely it is that diseases will be spread far more easily. Those of us in North America don't have the necessary natural immunity to ,say,African diseases(and vice versa).
I'm not sure there's anything much we can do about it....except talk,offer postulations and be grateful for our North American citizenship.Countries like China and India are on the road to having all the material goods of North Americans...in fact,most countries want better economies and more wealth.
These things come at the expense of the earth we inhabit....through wasting resources,creating severe pollution and adding to world populations.
The more populated the world becomes and the smaller the global village becomes,the more likely it is that diseases will be spread far more easily. Those of us in North America don't have the necessary natural immunity to ,say,African diseases(and vice versa).
I'm not sure there's anything much we can do about it....except talk,offer postulations and be grateful for our North American citizenship.Countries like China and India are on the road to having all the material goods of North Americans...in fact,most countries want better economies and more wealth.
These things come at the expense of the earth we inhabit....through wasting resources,creating severe pollution and adding to world populations.
Good thoughts on population Anna
Medical science has contributed by its very own "good for mankind" to the population increase in our world.
We have improved the statistics of birth survival, pre/post natal care and maternal health.
We have also improved the standard of life for many which has contributed to longevity of people who live thirty or more years than they once did.
We have not kept up with that benefit in terms of accommodating the increase in numbers of humans, but rather have forgotten the basic ways of life opting for specialized life, learning only what is necessary for our own existence. With our increased knowledge we may have lost some original and individual skills.
I sincerely hope we don't have to adopt the Chinese methods of birth selection and numerical restriction.
Could it be Mother Nature knows best? In all her fury, she puts us in her place - nasty reminders of how little we do know. Certainly brings us back to survival mode.
Rather than bow down to her method of "wiping people off the planet" as the acceptable method of population control, I would rather think the human creature can come up with ways of having a long lived and healthy population by finding ways to reuse and reinvent and treat our home with more respect, in spite of Nature's tantrums.
We may have become too lazy in our quest for comfort and have sidestepped our responsibilities.
Medical science has contributed by its very own "good for mankind" to the population increase in our world.
We have improved the statistics of birth survival, pre/post natal care and maternal health.
We have also improved the standard of life for many which has contributed to longevity of people who live thirty or more years than they once did.
We have not kept up with that benefit in terms of accommodating the increase in numbers of humans, but rather have forgotten the basic ways of life opting for specialized life, learning only what is necessary for our own existence. With our increased knowledge we may have lost some original and individual skills.
I sincerely hope we don't have to adopt the Chinese methods of birth selection and numerical restriction.
Could it be Mother Nature knows best? In all her fury, she puts us in her place - nasty reminders of how little we do know. Certainly brings us back to survival mode.
Rather than bow down to her method of "wiping people off the planet" as the acceptable method of population control, I would rather think the human creature can come up with ways of having a long lived and healthy population by finding ways to reuse and reinvent and treat our home with more respect, in spite of Nature's tantrums.
We may have become too lazy in our quest for comfort and have sidestepped our responsibilities.
Re: RE: This is what I've been trying to tell everyone.
The economy is the study to allocate limited resources to unlimited wants (needs).
It's not true that we will consume what is left and die once everything is consumed.
If you watch dicovery chennel "how it's made" you will see that to grow mushroom it take couple of days. to grow flowers in Canada greenhouses are used. to have eggs incubators make more chicken and those chicken provide more eggs. these are just exapmles.
so, economists provide models for governemt and governement encourages firms to produce what is necessary for consumption.
like now, because of high price of oil, and even the evidence that resources of oil is limited, government encourages all the car making firms to produce at least one model of hybrid cars.
quinton said:
The economy is the study to allocate limited resources to unlimited wants (needs).
It's not true that we will consume what is left and die once everything is consumed.
If you watch dicovery chennel "how it's made" you will see that to grow mushroom it take couple of days. to grow flowers in Canada greenhouses are used. to have eggs incubators make more chicken and those chicken provide more eggs. these are just exapmles.
so, economists provide models for governemt and governement encourages firms to produce what is necessary for consumption.
like now, because of high price of oil, and even the evidence that resources of oil is limited, government encourages all the car making firms to produce at least one model of hybrid cars.
Re: RE: This is what I've been trying to tell everyone.
no, they know that "God/Allah/etc" will punish them.
quinton said:
no, they know that "God/Allah/etc" will punish them.
dekhqonbacha , we (mankind) are past the point of sane return.
All those glorious measures of these experts will be too little too late.
If they would be "experts" had been "experts", change would have been implemented and accepted long time ago, as an ongoing feature and part of accepted life style.
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There have been callers in the desert all along ; from rachel carson to david suzuki and before.
They were just treated as odd, perhaps entertaining, but certainly not taken serious enough.
If you ever had a chance to experience natural life, let say in a healthy rural acreage environment or similar, you can only feel
pitty for those creatures in high density cities .
But that is the playing field of "experts";
go eat their food, breeze their air, drink that chlorinated fluoridiced and other chemical brew called town water.
And then the traffic!
Ask, how long can this be sustained;
just because the oilprice goes up (and that is certain>> I predict the $1oo mark within less of a year) that does not mean, that your income level will too. Not for the broad populace.
Image the situation in those big cities with brown outs, supply shortages of all kinds;
yeah not even power to type away on the computer.
And for those who know my christian side; its all coming to pass like clockwork .
And the biggest irony is, we are doing to our selves.
All those glorious measures of these experts will be too little too late.
If they would be "experts" had been "experts", change would have been implemented and accepted long time ago, as an ongoing feature and part of accepted life style.
.
There have been callers in the desert all along ; from rachel carson to david suzuki and before.
They were just treated as odd, perhaps entertaining, but certainly not taken serious enough.
If you ever had a chance to experience natural life, let say in a healthy rural acreage environment or similar, you can only feel
pitty for those creatures in high density cities .
But that is the playing field of "experts";
go eat their food, breeze their air, drink that chlorinated fluoridiced and other chemical brew called town water.
And then the traffic!
Ask, how long can this be sustained;
just because the oilprice goes up (and that is certain>> I predict the $1oo mark within less of a year) that does not mean, that your income level will too. Not for the broad populace.
Image the situation in those big cities with brown outs, supply shortages of all kinds;
yeah not even power to type away on the computer.
And for those who know my christian side; its all coming to pass like clockwork .
And the biggest irony is, we are doing to our selves.