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FIRST:

The non-church Christians .. the church Christians .. Jews (with their sects).. Muslims (with their sects)

The power and authority is now by the hand of the first group: The non-church Christians

All the other sects of Jews and Muslims now suck up this group: the non-church Christians... so that this group may help and support them. :lol:

All these sects and religions think God is with them .. and they hope that God will support and help them .. and they draw plans so that God may follow their plans and work along with their programs.

But God has His own plan: and all of them should work according to His Own plan, and He is not going to follow their rabbis, clergies or sages.

God may respond to the general prayer to send to people a savior .. but this savior will work according to the will of his Lord, not according to the desires of the religious leaders.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#First_Commandment
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Muslims: some of them say we prepare the way for the coming Mahdi (or Elia that will be raised in the Last Days, or the Comforter) .. they call themselves: The Preparatory: i.e. they prepare for the Mahdi so that when he will come, they will obey him and he will lead them ..!

Christians: have the same endeavor concerning the coming Jesus Christ in his advent : they work to prepare the way for Jesus Christ coming to make all people Christians ! Then to rule in Jerusalem and be the king there ..!

Jews: also have the same idea, but concerning the Messiah: the king of Israel who is not Jesus ..!

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For a joke: My mother who died many years ago; she had friends among the Jewish girls when she was a young girl in the primary school; there were many Jews in Iraq before the coming of the Wicked Zionists to Palestine.

So the female students discussed many things among themselves: the Muslim said: You don't believe in either the Christ or Mohammed!
The Jewish student said: Mohammed will come, but on Doomsday (also the Christ)

So if it is Doomsday, what for will Mohammed or the Christ come!? :lol:
 
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it's worse when they are in sects in tanks or aircraft. very unproductive
 
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Darkbeaver, they want God to follow them, not that they themselves should follow God!

So the coming one should be so and so .. the Jews say he must confirm them in their plans, the Christians say: he must be as do they plan for him .. the Muslims also believe in like manner.

But the coming one will be the trial for the belief and faith of all these sects and religion followers: will they follow God and His apostle or follow their traditions and religious leaders?

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In conclusion: At the start, none of these may follow the Mahdi (or Elia that will be raised in the Last Days, or the Comforter who will be sent by Jesus Christ) ..

because he will invite people to God alone not to the desires and programs of the religious leaders.

But then .. God will help His apostle with miracles .. and his enemies will be defeated miraculously .. and so people will submit .. notice: they will submit themselves (while to believe: this is up to God) and he will rule in the Quds: the Holy House of God in Palestine.

So the coming days and time will show many things: which will be like the help of God to His servant Moses: when He drowned the host of the enemy, but for the behalf of another devoted servant of God so that such help will be a miracle for him.

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When Bush the father came to Iraq, Abu Abd-Allah was still living, so he consulted some of our friends: will I invoke God against the host of the infidels?
Some told him: If you invoke God against them, then Saddam will be the victorious and will consider himself helped by God .. I said: Saddam may then be like Hitler!

Abu Abd-Allah said: "he may proclaim himself the Mahdi.
Moreover, there are Muslims also supporting Bush with him in the battlefield."
 
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I address others through you :lol:

so if you don't know God from gods .. and god in books: the signs of God's might all around us, but the atheist denies them.
Therefore, if he denies and went on denying and insist on such denial .. this will not change the fact that the sun is shining in the sky.
 
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There is the little spark of God in every little life everywhere in the universe that is the only one there is and the only book that matters God is the book of life, in the end you will obey, if you've read life enough times. I still have a lot of reading to do I suppose.
 
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darkbeaver said:
There is the little spark of God in every little life everywhere in the universe that is the only one there is and the only book that matters God is the book of life, in the end you will obey, if you've read life enough times. I still have a lot of reading to do I suppose.
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This is I consider much of self conceit.
Anyhow, I know what you are darkbeaver :lol:

No, there is much about God everywhere; the signs of God's might and wisdom is everywhere; God revealed books and sent the messengers and prophets who taught mankind every virtue and invited people to God alone without associate.

The Conflict between the Torah and the Quran
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People generally believe in the religions of their parents: they follow their traditions and the distorted religions which they found their parents following .. originally it had been the God's religion of the 'exclusive devotion to God alone without associate, son or parents'

So they refuse to believe the new apostle .. they do not follow the logical proofs .. they demand the miracles .. they incline to believe in great persons rather than to believe in God the Creator.. if they follow the logical proofs they will not need the miracle .. the demanding of the miracle in fact indicates the weak faith or weak belief.

But now it is the Last Days, and God may give people the miracles and may oblige them to follow the coming apostle.
 
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selfsame said:
This is I consider much of self conceit.
Anyhow, I know what you are darkbeaver :lol:

No, there is much about God everywhere; the signs of God's might and wisdom is everywhere; God revealed books and sent the messengers and prophets who taught mankind every virtue and invited people to God alone without associate.

The Conflict between the Torah and the Quran
<quran-ayat.com/conflicts/index.htm#The_Admonition_in_the_Quran>

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People generally believe in the religions of their parents: they follow their traditions and the distorted religions which they found their parents following .. originally it had been the God's religion of the 'exclusive devotion to God alone without associate, son or parents'

So they refuse to believe the new apostle .. they do not follow the logical proofs .. they demand the miracles .. they incline to believe in great persons rather than to believe in God the Creator.. if they follow the logical proofs they will not need the miracle .. the demanding of the miracle in fact indicates the weak faith or weak belief.

But now it is the Last Days, and God may give people the miracles and may oblige them to follow the coming apostle.
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It is always the last days here in the valley of the shadow there is only now and a bit of light in the distance to quide you and the ever present taxation of our souls.
 
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darkbeaver said:
It is always the last days here in the valley of the shadow there is only now and a bit of light in the distance to quide you and the ever present taxation of our souls.
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You incline to poetry which is other than the true fact. :lol:

This is nothing in relation to the truth.

By now I have told you many things which I could not tell anywhere else. This is a virtue of this Canadian Content Forum. :)
 
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You incline to poetry which is other than the true fact. :lol:

This is nothing in relation to the truth.

By now I have told you many things which I could not tell anywhere else. This is a virtue of this Canadian Content Forum. :)
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Mans holy books are filled with Gods poetry EA, it helps us remember the word. And Gods word is truth.
 
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You are a coward. And a bigoted, religious zealot. But no one here cares.

As you have been told many times before, you will die alone, unloved and forgotten.
 
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