The Troubling Role of Glyphosate in COVID-19

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Interesting story today over at Mercola.com. For those who don't know, glyphosate is a weed killer and perhaps the key ingredient in weed killer called Roundup, which is used a lot in non organic crops. Constructive feedback welcome.

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STORY AT-A-GLANCE​

  • Your body substitutes glyphosate for glycine, and in so doing, poisons your body’s machinery for creating proteins
  • In normal physiology, processes in your mitochondria ensure deuterium depletion. If your mitochondria are damaged by glyphosate, they’re not going to be able to eliminate the deuterium properly and the buildup of deuterium may contribute to chronic disease
  • Glyphosate may play an important role in cases of severe COVID-19. If you've accumulated a lot of glyphosate in your tissues, your immune cells will be impaired, making it difficult to clear the virus
  • To avoid glyphosate exposure, the most important strategy is to eat certified organic foods whenever possible, and eat/drink more sulfur-containing foods, organic grass fed milk and butter, glacier water, animal fats and probiotic foods
  • To help mitigate the toxic effects of glyphosate, you can take an inexpensive glycine supplement
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https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/02/28/stephanie-seneff-glyphosate.aspx
 
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A major funder of the anti-vaccine movement has made millions selling natural health products

Tread lightly here friends, this guy is at the center of a whirlpool of snake-oil.

"On his website, Mercola and colleagues advocate a number of unproven alternative health notions including homeopathy and opposition to vaccination. These positions have faced persistent criticism."

"Mercola's medical claims have been criticized by the medical, scientific, regulatory, and business communities. A 2006 BusinessWeek editorial stated his marketing practices relied on "slick promotion, clever use of information, and scare tactics."[4] In 2005, 2006, and 2011, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration warned Mercola and his company that they were making illegal claims for their products' ability to detect, prevent, and treat disease.[8] The medical watchdog site Quackwatch has criticized Mercola for making "unsubstantiated claims [that] clash with those of leading medical and public health organizations and many unsubstantiated recommendations for dietary supplements."

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To avoid glyphosate exposure, the most important strategy is to eat certified organic foods whenever possible, and eat/drink more sulfur-containing foods, organic grass fed milk and butter, glacier water, animal fats and probiotic foods
Glyphosate (salt and booze) isnt residual.
 
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A major funder of the anti-vaccine movement has made millions selling natural health products

Tread lightly here friends, this guy is at the center of a whirlpool of snake-oil.

"On his website, Mercola and colleagues advocate a number of unproven alternative health notions including homeopathy and opposition to vaccination. These positions have faced persistent criticism."

"Mercola's medical claims have been criticized by the medical, scientific, regulatory, and business communities. A 2006 BusinessWeek editorial stated his marketing practices relied on "slick promotion, clever use of information, and scare tactics."[4] In 2005, 2006, and 2011, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration warned Mercola and his company that they were making illegal claims for their products' ability to detect, prevent, and treat disease.[8] The medical watchdog site Quackwatch has criticized Mercola for making "unsubstantiated claims [that] clash with those of leading medical and public health organizations and many unsubstantiated recommendations for dietary supplements."

-Wikipedia

I've found that Wikipedia is not a reliable guide when it comes to the pharmaceutical industry and its detractors. As to Quackwatch:
Quackwatch review - Is Stephen Barrett a Quack? Is he fair, balanced, or biased?
 
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Glyphosate (salt and booze) isnt residual.

Even Wikipedia knows that Glyphosate isn't "salt and booze". Here's their summary of it:
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Glyphosate (IUPAC name: N-(phosphonomethyl)glycine) is a broad-spectrum systemic herbicide and crop desiccant. It is an organophosphorus compound, specifically a phosphonate, which acts by inhibiting the plant enzyme 5-enolpyruvylshikimate-3-phosphate synthase. It is used to kill weeds, especially annual broadleaf weeds and grasses that compete with crops. It was discovered to be an herbicide by Monsanto chemist John E. Franz in 1970. Monsanto brought it to market for agricultural use in 1974 under the trade name Roundup. Monsanto's last commercially relevant United States patent expired in 2000.

Farmers quickly adopted glyphosate for agricultural weed control, especially after Monsanto introduced glyphosate-resistant Roundup Ready crops, enabling farmers to kill weeds without killing their crops. In 2007, glyphosate was the most used herbicide in the United States' agricultural sector and the second-most used (after 2,4-D) in home and garden, government and industry, and commercial applications.[6]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate
 
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Isopropylamine salts and glycol.

Booze and salts.

I'm sure you could probably come up with some quaint over simplification of DDT as well, but people know better than to think that it's safe these days.
 

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So you now agree it's just booze and salts? WTG kid!

Now you're oversimplifying my response -.-. All I know is that Glyphosate's chemical name is "N-(phosphonomethyl)glycine)". I'm pretty sure you'd agree that it's not been approved as a salty alcoholic beverage. The OP lists a host of reasons why that would be the case.
 

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Propylene glycol is a viscous, colorless liquid, which is nearly odorless but possesses a faintly sweet taste. Its chemical formula is CH₃CHCH₂OH. Containing two alcohol groups, it is classed as a diol. It is miscible with a broad range of solvents, including water, acetone, and chloroform.
 
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Glyphosate and COVID-19: Dr. Stephanie Seneff Strikes (Out) Again​


An MIT computer scientist who is obsessed with trying to prove that the herbicide glyphosate (Roundup) causes multiple human ailments is now targeting the chemical as a factor in COVID-19. She is firing blanks.

Joe Schwarcz PhD| 1 May 2020
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An MIT computer scientist with no expertise in agriculture, chemistry, toxicology, or the biological sciences. And yet for some reason, Stephanie Seneff has decided that genetically modified foods are the tools of the devil and that glyphosate (Roundup), the herbicide used to kill weeds in fields of crops that have been genetically modified to resist it, is responsible for many of society’s ailments. She claims that exposure to glyphosate causes autism and attempts to prove this by flashing a graph showing that an increase in the incidence of autism parallels an increase in the sales of glyphosate. Confusing correlation with cause and effect is such a fundamental error that anyone who builds a case in this fashion can immediately be discounted as a reliable scientist. Autism rates have also increased in step with an increase in vegetarian diets, yet nobody is claiming that vegetables cause autism. Nor are they claiming that ice cream causes boating accidents and yet both of those increase in the summer months.
For years Seneff has tried to make a global name for herself by becoming the people's champion, a knight clad in shining armour, riding a white horse into battle against an agricultural industry that only cares about profits. She has been widely criticized for her abuse of science but her recent diatribe is truly comedic. She is riding the coattails of COVID-19 in a ludicrous attempt to implicate glyphosate as a factor in the disease. How? By trying to forge an absurd connection between biofuels and COVID-19! The biofuel in question is ethanol, produced by the fermentation of plant products, mostly corn, which is added to gasoline and aviation fuel to reduce reliance on petroleum. Ethanol is not only a renewable resource, but it also burns more cleanly than gasoline, reducing air pollution.
Seneff's thesis is that the genetically modified corn used to produce ethanol has been sprayed with glyphosate and that the chemical is, therefore, present in the gasoline to which the ethanol is added. When the fuel burns, the glyphosate is aerosolized, and when inhaled, affects the immune system resulting in the "cytokine storm" that characterizes some cases of COVID-19. What is her evidence? She preposterously introduces the case of a couple in their 70s, Robert and Elizabeth Mar, who both died from the disease. In her words: “The Mars’ were both in their 70s, so they match the profile of increased susceptibility due to older age. But perhaps a more significant factor was the fact that their restaurant was located just a few blocks from Interstate 5, an 8-lane highway where trucks, buses, and cars passed by all day long, spewing out toxic exhaust fumes.”
Glyphosate decomposes at 187 °C, a fact that Seneff could easily have looked up. Not only is it nonsensical to suggest that glyphosate survives combustion, but there is also no evidence that it is ever found in ethanol. And is there any evidence that glyphosate has any effect on adaptive immunity, as she claims? Here she brings up the example of a farmer who tried to commit suicide by drinking a cup of a glyphosate-containing herbicide and developed a precipitous drop in blood pressure along with hypoxia, respiratory distress, and acute pulmonary edema. No great surprise there, but drinking a toxic amount of glyphosate is hardly a model for inhaling trace amounts from the air, should these actually be present.
Then Seneff invites further scientific ridicule by claiming that glyphosate runoff from agricultural fields plays a role in the outcome of coronavirus infection. The Yangtze River runs through Wuhan and is highly polluted from runoff and this, she claims, results in glyphosate in the surrounding air which in turn affects the immune system. This is what caused the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan to have such disastrous effects. Has anyone ever found glyphosate, a non-volatile compound, in the air around water systems? No. She goes on to point the finger at hotspots like New York, New Orleans, and Seattle, arguing that the Hudson River, the Mississippi, and water around Seattle are sources of glyphosate. Never mind that cities with major population densities tend to be located around major waterways and crowding is the reason for transmission of infection.
What about Italy, a country that does not grow genetically modified crops, as a hotspot? Seneff has another unintelligent explanation here. “Italy has developed a technology that involves gathering used olive oil from restaurants and converting it into biodiesel fuel. While Italy does not allow GMO crops, glyphosate is used routinely to control the weeds growing around the olive trees.” So, according to her, the Italians’ love of olives plays a role in the spread of COVID-19. And Russia? Fewer cases. Why? Because, according to this champion of science, they don’t use biofuels. Never mind that Russian reporting is notoriously suspect.
There is still more. Seneff goes on to stuff another load of bunkum into her giant pile of pseudoscientific claims. She proposes that the lung problems associated with vaping are also caused by glyphosate. How so? Propylene glycol and glycerol are components of the vaping mixture in e-cigarettes and they are sourced from waste from biofuel production. Indeed, glycerol is a byproduct of biofuel production, but it is also commonly sourced from animal tallow. It can be converted into propylene glycol, although the main production method of propylene glycol is from propene. In any case, no glyphosate has ever been detected in vaping mixtures, but even if it were present, it would of course not survive combustion! As if she had not blown enough hot air, she then marshals vitamin E acetate into the dock. Seneff knows why this compound is suspected of being responsible for some of the lung problems encountered by vaping. What other scientists have missed is that vitamin E is commonly sourced from soybean oil, “probably from GMO “Roundup-ready” soybeans, and is therefore contaminated with glyphosate! Any evidence for this? Zero.
What we have here is a series of laughable arguments that represent an illness sometimes seen among scientists who are wedded to a theory they have formulated and will try to fit square pegs into round holes to prove they were correct. In this case, in a sense, that illness is caused by glyphosate.

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Now you're oversimplifying my response -.-. All I know is that Glyphosate's chemical name is "N-(phosphonomethyl)glycine)". I'm pretty sure you'd agree that it's not been approved as a salty alcoholic beverage. The OP lists a host of reasons why that would be the case.
Did you know that GMO Corn and Rice can feed the world?

It has to be killed cause there isn't enough money to be made from it from the right people, therefore GMO is bad
 
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You're the one who's spinning here. The OP makes certain assertions about the toxicity of glyphosate. You go off on your own tangent.
I can see you having concerns with pesticides, Round up is safe enough to drink


There is no doubt that RoundUp is safe enough to drink. That’s why everyone here at Monsanto is so excited to announce a new addition to our corporate cafeteria! Called GlyFunSpace , this 21-and-over corporate campus addition will serve a full line of custom mixed drinks, all featuring the highest quality organic and locally sourced ingredients, small-batch premium spirits and RoundUp full spectrum herbicide.

Monsanto Promotes RoundUp Cocktails: "Safe Enough To Drink ...

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Court cases were trying to link Roundup to cancer