The tie that saved Rome. Do Western nations need a State Religion?

Tecumsehsbones

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I watched a little of that movie recently and it seemed to be not funny at all. I wonder if back in the day we thought it was funny because it was cool to think so.
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darkbeaver

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You overlook the fact that before Britain evolved into its current democratic state hundreds of people were murdered by the government in the name of religion. The current so-called "state religion" of the UK is superseded by the right to freedom of religion and as a result British citizens are free to believe in anything they like as was shown in the most recent study of religion in England and Wales. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/23/no-religion-outnumber-christians-england-wales-study

As for China it is not a democracy as as a result restricts anything that might threaten the dictatorship that runs the country. Officially atheist BTW really means believe what the government tells you to believe. That sounds like a state religion to me.

France is a case all by itself. For the last few decades France has been desperately trying to preserve French culture by attempting to ban anything that seems to undermine it, such as the spread of English slang or foreign technical terms. As a result, the state religion in France is actually secularism - imposed by law if necessary.

I stand by what I said. Historically state religions have been highly oppressive. There are few if any exceptions.



I'd reply to this if I could understand it. Did you compose this post while drunk?

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That's the cheapest of shots boy, if you can't understand hinglish you should just admit as much and save face instead of gambling that the maple syrup weapons I have perfected aren't actually real. You will wake up sticky someday and recall this brief interaction.
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French Patriot

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We have a state religion but already, there has been a schism. It seems that one either worships with an Apple I-Phone or an Android based phone, even though the bowing, weaving and trance-like meditation used by followers of both denominations are both just about identical.



Apple I-Phone or an Android based phone, do not threaten us with hell if we do not follow their instructions and commandments.


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DL

A state religion is an impossibility by virtue of the mea[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]ning of the word religion, so yes it is a stupid idea, take them altogether if they adopt the meaning of the word. If not off them at the borders. You must believe in God, you must not define God, God will define itself to you, personally, one and one only glimps of Gods magnificense that you cannot share with others though you try and you try and you try



Impossible?


Strange how England has done the impossible. It almost looks like it is possible. No?


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DL




Ironically enough, the UK, which does have an official state religion (aka an established religion), offers the greatest freedom of religion of almost any state in the world. How do you explain that?

Meanwhile France (officially secular) and China (officially atheist) restrict freedom of religion far more than the UK does. How do you explain that?



You're confusing things here. An official state religion (though I concede it can present soe advantages to a society in contributing to its civic religion) should never impose itself on one's personal religion. I actually like the UK model precisely because it also allows maximum personal religious freedom of religion.



It does there yes. But Britain, like most civilized nations, have put restrictions on religions to practice their full ideologies.


I. E. They do not allow them to break secular laws like stoning gays and adulterers or allowing female genital mutilation or child brides.


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