The stratified heavens: the gaseous layers of the stratosphere?

eanassir

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The troposphere :) the air) appears orange.
The stratosphere :) the gaseous layers of heaven?) appears white.
The mesosphere :) above the stratosphere) appears blue.

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eanassir

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I think the stratified heavens mentioned in the Glorious Quran are the stratosphere (or the stratified heavens), but God is the All-Knowing.

The reason for this:
This Stratosphere is stable: with no turbulance of its gases: there is no wind there to mix its gases together.
The wind is restricted to the troposphere or the air which is nearer to the earth surface.
It is almost certain that when this part of the atmosphere is stable and no wind is there to mix its gases, then its constituents will separate by time to form some sublayers inside this stratosphere - the thing that is unknown till today.

The cause of the stability of this Stratosphere is the temperature becomes more as you go up in this stratosphere (this is relative; because its uppermost part is cold but has a higher temperature than its lowermost part.)

This is opposite the troposphere which is turbulant with winds; because the temperatue will be less as you go up in this troposphere.

The gaseous heavens
 

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In your model wouldn't global warming result in faster updrafts and therefore faster cooling via the cold of space?
 

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I think the stratified heavens mentioned in the Glorious Quran are the stratosphere (or the stratified heavens), but God is the All-Knowing.

The reason for this:
This Stratosphere is stable: with no turbulance of its gases: there is no wind there to mix its gases together.

...Polar stratospheric vortices...they exist. Google it. There is even wind in the mesosphere.

The cause of the stability of this Stratosphere is the temperature becomes more as you go up in this stratosphere (this is relative; because its uppermost part is cold but has a higher temperature than its lowermost part.)

The temperature profile with elevation isn't at all like you describe it.

It looks like this:
 

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I think the stratified heavens mentioned in the Glorious Quran are the stratosphere (or the stratified heavens), but God is the All-Knowing.

The reason for this:
This Stratosphere is stable: with no turbulance of its gases: there is no wind there to mix its gases together.
The wind is restricted to the troposphere or the air which is nearer to the earth surface.
It is almost certain that when this part of the atmosphere is stable and no wind is there to mix its gases, then its constituents will separate by time to form some sublayers inside this stratosphere - the thing that is unknown till today.

The cause of the stability of this Stratosphere is the temperature becomes more as you go up in this stratosphere (this is relative; because its uppermost part is cold but has a higher temperature than its lowermost part.)

This is opposite the troposphere which is turbulant with winds; because the temperatue will be less as you go up in this troposphere.

The gaseous heavens
lmao
Looks like you took the Bart Simpson course in atmospherics 101 and got a D- in it.
 

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Anna, in the chart just above your post it puts outer space as being above the melting point of water, is it true that it woulds stay liquid if some was tossed out of Sky Lab?
 

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Anna, in the chart just above your post it puts outer space as being above the melting point of water, is it true that it woulds stay liquid if some was tossed out of Sky Lab?
:tard: Look at the pressure up there and answer your own question.
 

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Pressure only affects how much gas can be held in water, 60deg will make water a liquid no matter what the pressure is.
:roll: Here's a clue for you: it has something to do with density. Like I said, answer your own question.

In the meantime, back to the topic: eannasir, you're book is wrong. It's science is befuddled.
 

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ok I'll take pity on you: here's another clue;

PV=nRT V=nRT/P
A 1 liter sample of air at room temperature (25 �C) and pressure (1 atm) is compressed to a volume of 3.3 mls at a pressure of 1000 atm. What is the temperature of the air sample?

I'll post what answer I was given a bit later.
 

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A 1 liter sample of air at room temperature (25 �C) and pressure (1 atm) is compressed to a volume of 3.3 mls at a pressure of 1000 atm. What is the temperature of the air sample?

I'll post what answer I was given a bit later.
Who cares? Go waste someone else's time with your schoolyard games and try sticking to the topic.
 

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Who cares? Go waste someone else's time with your schoolyard games and try sticking to the topic.
Perhaps someday I will become a great as you and be able tp rebuttle any/all replies with the same non-specific view such as this one 'you're book is wrong. It's science is befuddled.'
As you wish, bye. lol
 

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Perhaps someday I will become a great as you and be able tp rebuttle any/all replies with the same non-specific view such as this one 'you're book is wrong. It's science is befuddled.'
As you wish, bye. lol
What greatness? It doesn't take anyone great to see that eanassir's science is ridiculous. If you think it is so good, post evidence supporting it. At least you'd be sticking to the topic.
 

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I think the stratified heavens mentioned in the Glorious Quran are the stratosphere (or the stratified heavens), but God is the All-Knowing.

The reason for this:
This Stratosphere is stable: with no turbulance of its gases: there is no wind there to mix its gases together.
The wind is restricted to the troposphere or the air which is nearer to the earth surface.
It is almost certain that when this part of the atmosphere is stable and no wind is there to mix its gases, then its constituents will separate by time to form some sublayers inside this stratosphere - the thing that is unknown till today.

The cause of the stability of this Stratosphere is the temperature becomes more as you go up in this stratosphere (this is relative; because its uppermost part is cold but has a higher temperature than its lowermost part.)
This is opposite the troposphere which is turbulant with winds; because the temperatue will be less as you go up in this troposphere.

The gaseous heavens
I guess NASA is blowing a lot of money and wasting a lot of time studying this "stability" in the stratosphere: http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88279main_H-1865.pdf
Gases can mix without any wind, too, BTW. It's called diffusion.
As for "heaven" being in the stratosphere: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahhahhahahahahahhahhahhahaa
 

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What greatness? It doesn't take anyone great to see that eanassir's science is ridiculous. If you think it is so good, post evidence supporting it. At least you'd be sticking to the topic.
I already asked him a question, you are the fill-time till I get a reply.
 

eanassir

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In your model wouldn't global warming result in faster updrafts and therefore faster cooling via the cold of space?


MHz, would you explain this more, and its relation to the stratosphere region of the atmsophere ?

To explain what I said about the stability of the stratosphere and it is suitable to be the habitation of aliens (genies) whose bodies are created from gases (while their souls are formed, like humans, of the ether):

The reason for the turbulance of the troposphere (the air) is the sequence of its temperature: as we go up in this layer, it gets colder. This is like we put hot water in a glass then we pour cold water over it: the water will mix to become of homogenous temperature: currents of water will occur rapidly (like the air of the troposphere) which will lead to mixing of the water in the glass to become homogenous in temperature.

While if we pour cold water in the glass, then we pour the hot water above it, then the hot water will stay longer time at the top and the cold water will remain in the bottom and will not mix immediately: the water in the glass will be stable (this is like the stratosphere) which is stable without winds to mix its constituents: the cold at the bottom and the hot at the top.

Of course by time there will be some slow moderation in temperature by contact of the layers of the cold in the bottom and the hot above (in the glass of water and in the stratosphere.)

This is in the Quran 23: 17
وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَا فَوْقَكُمْ سَبْعَ طَرَائِقَ وَمَا كُنَّا عَنِ الْخَلْقِ غَافِلِينَ
The explanation:
(And We have created above you seven passages [i.e. seven heavens]; nor are We heedless of creatures.)

So the “passages”, here, means the gaseous layers and who dwell therein, i.e. genies (or aliens.)

It means God created seven races (in comparison to the four human races) and made them to inhabit the layers of the gaseous heavens.


Genies (or aliens)
 

eanassir

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...Polar stratospheric vortices...they exist. Google it. There is even wind in the mesosphere.

The polar vortex is confined to the polar region and is not general in the entire stratosphere.

Of course, the wind occurs in both the troposphere and the mesosphere because of the sequence of temperature becoming colder as we go up in these two layers, while in the stratosphere the condition is stable because as we go up the temperature increases more and more.


The temperature profile with elevation isn't at all like you describe it.

It looks like this:

This proves what I said:
The temperature becomes lower (colder) as we go up in the troposphere,
and gets higher (less cold) as we go up in the stratosphere;
then, in the mesosphere layer, the temperature returns to gets lower (colder)as we go up.