The story of two Britons who died fighting common enemy

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The Times July 04, 2006

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The story of two Britons who died fighting common enemy
By Mike Evans

Both soldiers were killed in a Taleban attack but one was a Muslim equally proud of being British and his Islamic background


A BRITISH soldier killed in Afghanistan on Saturday was described by his family last night as a “committed soldier and a committed Muslim”.

Lance Corporal Jabron Hashmi, 24, of the Intelligence Corps, died alongside Corporal Peter Thorpe, 27, of the Royal Corps of Signals, when their base in Sangin, Helmand province, came under Taleban attack.

Lance Corporal Hashmi, who was born only 40 minutes from the Afghan border in Pakistan, became the first British Muslim soldier to be killed in action in modern times.

Zeeshan Hashmi, 27, his brother, paid tribute to the serviceman. “He was fiercely proud of his Islamic background and he was equally proud of being British. He went to Afghanistan to build bridges between East and West. He always wanted to serve his country since he was a little boy.”

Lance Corporal Hashmi’s mother, Imtiaz Bano, 55, broke down in tears at the family’s terraced home in Bordesley Green, Birmingham. Comforting her, Zeeshan said: “My mother is devastated. All she wants is her son back.”

Like Lance Corporal Hashmi, Zeeshan and his three sisters were born in Peshawar province. Zeeshan said: “He was very excited to get back there and experience the culture. But as a Muslim, Jabron always used to say that when it’s time to go, then it’s time to go.”

His sister Zoubia, 29, said that her brother had been hoping to take their mother on a pilgrimage to Mecca. “My brother was a very mischievous person who could make you laugh or cry in a second. His best quality was his generosity,” she said. “Jabron wanted to join the British Army as a young boy growing up in Pakistan. He was proud of his role as a serving soldier and looked forward to his deployment to Afghanistan.

“He felt privileged to represent the Army as a Muslim British Pakistani who wanted to use his background and position to contribute at a time where there exists a lack of understanding of cultures, ideologies and religious identities.

“He will be greatly missed by all of his family and friends and everyone who knew him. Even though it is a tragic loss, we are grateful to Allah for having Jabron for the last 24 years.”

Lance Corporal Hashmi, who was single, joined the Army in June 2004, one of about 10,000 Muslims now serving in the three Armed Forces, 5 per cent of the total manpower.

He came to Britain in 1994, at the age of 12, with his father, Ishtiaq Hussain Hashmi, who had a British passport, brother and three sisters, Zoubia, Absa, now 20, and Tajalla, 19. Their mother required a residence visa and settled in Britain only four years ago. Zeeshan also served in the British Army, leaving after five years as a corporal in the Intelligence Corps, including two tours in Afghanistan. He is studying Arabic at Cambridge University.

In Afghanistan, Lance Corporal Hashmi was attached to the Royal Signals, working with the 3rd Battalion The Parachute Regiment battle group.

Lieutenant-Colonel Steve Vickery, commanding officer of 14th Signal Regiment, said that he displayed “all the qualities of a first-class soldier”.

He added: “He was brimming with confidence and hugely keen to take part in all the training prior to the operation.”

Corporal Thorpe, who lived in Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria, joined the Army as an apprentice tradesman in August 1995 and after completing his signals training was posted to 216 Parachute Signal Squadron in 5 Airborne Brigade. He completed one tour in Afghanistan in 2001.

Colonel Vickery said that Corporal Thorpe had recently been selected for promotion to sergeant and was “a highly motivated, talented and tremendously popular soldier”.

He was a patrol commander in Afghanistan in support of 3 Para battle group.

The family of Corporal Thorpe were too distraught to speak about their loss. The curtains were drawn at their terrace home on Walney Island, Barrow, and a soldier who answered the door said that the family did not yet want to make a statement.



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aeon

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Wow amazing story, very touching, but seriously who the hell cares about this?
 

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aeon said:
Wow amazing story, very touching, but seriously who the hell cares about this?

I do. Just because you're an ingrate, that doesn't mean everyone is as apathetic as you.

That said, and on to more important thing (and people), I think it means a lot when a Muslim stands up, joins the Army, and deploys to combat other Muslims. It says a lot for the mission, and what it entails. I've spoken before of a Muslim friend I have (who's first name actually happens to be Zeeshan amazingly enough), and he's a committed Canadian soldier. Proud to be a Muslim, yet equally proud to be a Canadian. He wants to go to Afghanistan, and like the rest of us, he doesn't want to kill, he wants to sort out that Nation and help his fellow Muslims. I have insurmountable respect for individuals like him and the Brit who lost his life.

P.S.

Royal Corps of Signals? Certa Cito deinde Velox Versitus Vigilans!
 

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Mogz said:
Proud to be a Muslim, yet equally proud to be a Canadian. He wants to go to Afghanistan, and like the rest of us, he doesn't want to kill, he wants to sort out that Nation and help his fellow Muslims.!


Are you on some sort of drug prescription? the guy doesnt want to kill, but he is in the army, and on top of it in afganisthan, where thre is no evidence that alqeada is behind 9-11, quite very funny your statement.
 

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Contrary to the stigma you'd paint of a soldier, we don't join the Army to kill, and we don't deploy on missions to kill. While that sometimes ends up being a foregone conclusion, that isn't our objective. You know, you claim to be a "former soldier", yet utterly lack any military bearing. How curious.

As for your alqaeda, 9/11, Afghanistan views; ad nauseam.
 

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aeon said:
Mogz said:
Proud to be a Muslim, yet equally proud to be a Canadian. He wants to go to Afghanistan, and like the rest of us, he doesn't want to kill, he wants to sort out that Nation and help his fellow Muslims.!


Are you on some sort of drug prescription? the guy doesnt want to kill, but he is in the army, and on top of it in afganisthan, where thre is no evidence that alqeada is behind 9-11, quite very funny your statement.

You keep repeating the same garbage like a parrot, is this how you convince yourself? Just curious.

Your buddy Oussama has repeatedly taken responsibility for 9/11, reiterated by Al Jazeera.

What the hell is wrong with you?
 

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I think not said:
aeon said:
Mogz said:
Proud to be a Muslim, yet equally proud to be a Canadian. He wants to go to Afghanistan, and like the rest of us, he doesn't want to kill, he wants to sort out that Nation and help his fellow Muslims.!


Are you on some sort of drug prescription? the guy doesnt want to kill, but he is in the army, and on top of it in afganisthan, where thre is no evidence that alqeada is behind 9-11, quite very funny your statement.

You keep repeating the same garbage like a parrot, is this how you convince yourself? Just curious.

Your buddy Oussama has repeatedly taken responsibility for 9/11, reiterated by Al Jazeera.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Personally, I suspect it is Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. The only other person I have ever met who could so obstinately deny the obvious was so OCD that his diet consisted completely of hot dogs, chicken nuggets, steak, hamburger, and vitamins. That's it.

I also strongly suspect Aeon is VERY young (17 at the most), and therefore his brainstem has not become fully connected........yet. This condition will pass, with time.

It is possible he is a Muslim, but I really doubt that.
 

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the guy doesnt want to kill, but he is in the army, and on top of it in afganisthan,
Contrary to the stigma you'd paint of a soldier, we don't join the Army to kill, and we don't deploy on missions to kill.

Just to add:

A jealous husband comes home and discovers his wife in bed with another man, goes a little crazy and kills both of them. Did he need to be trained to do this?

Someone gets into their car drunk and hits and kills someone on the way home. Did someone train them to do that?

A dog chases a rabbit and without even really trying kills it. The first time the dog has caught or killed anything. Did the dog need training?

Many say soldiers are trained to kill. All that would take is the proper instrumentation and target practice. Aside from the blistering array of jobs the average soldier is trained to do, they are not trained to kill, they are trained to fight. There is a difference.

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Aside from the blistering array of jobs the average soldier is trained to do, they are not trained to kill, they are trained to fight. There is a difference.

Holy shit, somebody gets it. Thank you jeebus.
 

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Holy shit, somebody gets it. Thank you jeebus.

"Look both ways before you cross the street....tracers work both ways...the second jump is the scariest...we didn't come all this way just to hurt your feelings...hate the open ground...stay in the AFV or away from it..."

...etc. etc. and all the other Dr. Seuss-isms of modern combat. Yeah I 'get it'.



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notme01 said:
why because i speak my opinion not your's


No. Those soldiers died protecting the people of their country and the world, and you don't care about them whatsoever. Like I said before, FUCK YOU! :x
 

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no ido not care for the reason they died for because i do not believe it our war it the Bush war because he has to justify the 911 and still cannot do it

as for the man /woman dying for the stupid cause yes i fell bad for them and their families espescially since they should be at home with them
 

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notme01 said:
no ido not care for the reason they died for because i do not believe it our war it the Bush war because he has to justify the 911 and still cannot do it

as for the man /woman dying for the stupid cause yes i fell bad for them and their families espescially since they should be at home with them

First of all, why don't you write like an adult instead of writing like a two year old, because its getting on my nerves.

Second, it is our war. Canadians died on 9/11. Didn't I tell you that? Or are you to dense to get that? We are there so we can bring peace to Afghanistan, destroy the Taliban, and prevent terrorist attacks from happening again.
 

notme01

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ok then first of all you do not write any better


second yes Canadians died but we still have no proof except what Bush said that it was the Talibans that did it

third who ask for our help at first the Afghan or the Bush
fourth how do you know this will stop terrorist attacks it was never proved it was them
 

JonB2004

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notme01 said:
ok then first of all you do not write any better


second yes Canadians died but we still have no proof except what Bush said that it was the Talibans that did it

third who ask for our help at first the Afghan or the Bush
fourth how do you know this will stop terrorist attacks it was never proved it was them

Actually, you can't write whatsoever. You don't use punctuation, and you have massive amounts of spelling errors. How old are you? Write like an adult.

And I told you before, there is proof that bin Laden was responsible for 9/11. He admitted to it. I believe Bush asked us to come to Afghnaistan, but I think it was also Canada's best interest to go to Afghanistan. The war in Afghanistan will prevent terrorist attacks.
 

notme01

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when did Ben Laden admit it ?
also why is it in Canada best interest to fight a nosense war because Harper said so ?

also english is not my alnguage so maybe that is why i make mistakes

but also it show what type of picky person you are when something does not agree with your theories .
 

JonB2004

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notme01 said:
when did Ben Laden admit it ?
also why is it in Canada best interest to fight a nosense war because Harper said so ?

also english is not my alnguage so maybe that is why i make mistakes

but also it show what type of picky person you are when something does not agree with your theories .

bin Laden admitted to 9/11 in 2001, shortly after the attacks. And it wasn't Stephen Harper's decision to go to Afghanistan. It was the decision of the former government under Jean Chretien who decided to go to Afghanistan. This war was in Canada's best interest because Canadians died on 9/11, and it is a tradition in Canada to assist "failed nations". Afghanistan is a "failed nation" because it was being ruled by the Taliban, a terrorist group. Canada also went to Afghanistan so that we could prevent future terrorist attacks and rebuild that nation.

I also want to apologize to you. I wasn't aware you weren't fluent in English.

And I would like to finish by saying that I am right, regardless of what you like to believe. But you are entitled to your own opinion, and you can keep on believing whatever you want.