The Snoop Next Door

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[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif]Bad parking, loud talking -- no transgression is too trivial to document online. Our reporter on new Web sites for outing fellow citizens.[/FONT]
[FONT=times new roman,times,serif][FONT=times new roman,times,serif]By JENNIFER SARANOW
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Last month, Eva Burgess was eating breakfast at the Rose Cafe in Venice, Calif., when she remembered she needed to make an appointment with her eye doctor. So the New York theater director got on her cellphone and booked a date.
Almost immediately, she started receiving "weird and creepy" calls directing her to a blog. There, under the posting "Eva Burgess Is Getting Glasses!" her name, cellphone number and other details mentioned in her call to the doctor's office were posted, along with the admonition, "next time, you might take your business outside." The offended blogger had been sitting next to Ms. Burgess in the cafe.
The dawn patrol: Tim Halberg filmed a newspaper-stealing neighbor, then put the video online. It used to be the worst you could get for a petty wrong in public was a rude look. Now, it's not just brutal police officers, panty-free celebrities and wayward politicians who are being outed online. The most trivial missteps by ordinary folks are increasingly ripe for exposure as well. There is a proliferation of new sites dedicated to condemning offenses ranging from bad parking (Caughtya.org) and leering (HollaBackNYC.com) to littering (LitterButt.com) and general bad behavior (RudePeople.com). One site documents locations where people have failed to pick up after their dogs. Capturing newspaper-stealing neighbors on video is also an emerging genre.
Helping drive the exposés are a crop of entrepreneurs who hope to sell advertising and subscriptions. One site that lets people identify bad drivers is about to offer a $5 monthly service, for people to register several of their own plate numbers and receive notices if they are cited by other drivers. But the traffic and commercial prospects for many of the sites are so limited that clearly there is something else at work.
The embrace of the Web to expose trivial transgressions in part represents a return to shame as a check on social behavior, says Henry Jenkins, director of the comparative media studies program at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Some academics believe shame became less powerful as a control over everyday interactions with strangers in all but very small neighborhoods or social groups, as people moved to big cities or impersonal suburbs where they existed more anonymously.
The sites documenting minor wrongs are the flip side of an online vigilantism movement that tackles meatier social issues. Community organization Cop Watch Los Angeles encourages users to send in stories and pictures of people being brutalized or harassed by police, for posting on the Web. The governor of Texas plans to launch a site this year that will air live video of the border, in hopes that people will watch and report illegal crossings. In a trial run in November, the site received more than 14,000 emails. Tips included spottings of individuals swimming in the Rio Grande, a person wearing a large white hat and a "wild" boy at the border. In China, Web postings have become a powerful social weapon, used to rally thousands of people to hound a man who allegedly had an affair with a married woman.
An Anonymous Tip
For people singled out, the sites can represent an unsettling form of street justice, with no due process. Chris Roth's driving skills have been roundly criticized online by self-anointed traffic monitors. "This man needs his license revoked," wrote one poster, who accused Mr. Roth of cutting in and out. Another charged him with driving on a shoulder and having the audacity to "flip off" an old lady who wouldn't let him cut in.
Mr. Roth found the critiques when an anonymous writer added a comment to his MySpace profile in late November directing him to PlateWire, one of the handful of new sites devoted to bad driving. There, a user had posted Mr. Roth's license-plate information -- his vanity plate reads "IDRVFAST" -- and complained about his reckless driving style. Subsequent posters found and listed his full name, cellphone number and link to his MySpace page, as well as comments like "big jerk" and "meathead." (He has no idea how they found his information.)
Chris Roth was criticized by anonymous posters on one site for his driving skills. "There is no accountability. You can just go online and say whatever you want whether it's factual or not," says the 37-year-old Mr. Roth, of Raleigh, N.C., who works in technology sales. He admits he is an impatient driver and speeds, but he has no plans to change his driving style based on posts by anonymous commentators. "Who are they to decide what is safe or not?" he says.
If you type "ycantpark" into photo-sharing site Flickr, there are about 200 photos of bad parking jobs at Yahoo Inc.'s Sunnyvale, Calif., headquarters. The company says the posts were started anonymously around 2005 by employees disgruntled with the parking situation. During that year, Yahoo hired more than 2,100 new employees, and finding a parking space become difficult. "I don't want to have my car posted up there so I definitely think twice about how I park," says Yahoo spokeswoman Heidi Burgett.
The digital age allows critics to quickly find a fair amount of information about their targets. One day last November, at about 11:30 a.m., a blog focused on making New York streets more bike-friendly posted the license plate number of an SUV driver who allegedly accelerated from a dead stop to hit a bicycle blocking his way.
At 1:16 p.m., someone posted the registration information for the license plate, including the SUV owner's name and address. (The editor of the blog thinks the poster got the information from someone who had access to a license-plate look-up service, available to lawyers, private investigators and police.) At 1:31 p.m., another person added the owner's occupation, his business's name and his title. Ten minutes later, a user posted a link to an aerial photo of the owner's house. Within another hour, the posting also included the accused's picture and email address.
The SUV's owner, Ian Goldman, the chief executive of Celerant Technology Corp. in the New York City borough of Staten Island, declined to comment for this article. According to an email exchange posted on the blog, Mr. Goldman said that he had lent the vehicle in question to a relative with "an urgent medical situation" and that he was not aware of any incident. The alleged victim has decided to drop the matter since the damage to the bicycle, which he was standing next to at the time, was under $20. Last month, Aaron Naparstek, editor of the blog, says he removed Mr. Goldman's home and email addresses from the site after receiving a "lawyerly cease and desist" email asking that the whole posting be deleted.
Other sites have also received complaints asking that posts be removed. Most say they will remove identifying information like phone numbers or full names when it comes to their attention or if asked. Yet lawyers say alleged wrongdoers shamed online typically have little legal recourse under libel and privacy laws if the accusations in postings are true, if they are posters' opinions about behavior witnessed in a public place and if the personal information listed is available to the public. "It becomes very difficult when it comes to the shaming sites in terms of what you can do in creating a case," says Daniel Solove, an associate professor of law at George Washington University Law School, who is working on a book about gossiping, shaming and privacy on the Internet.
Caughtya.org hosts pictures of cars illegally parked in handicapped spaces. (Other objects qualify, too; one photo from Plano, Texas, is called "Big Rubber Chicken parked in accessible parking spaces.") Playground snoops can log onto the five-month-old Isaw-yournanny.blogspot.com, where users have posted details about nannies committing misdeeds, like feeding children Ho Hos.
Few Postings
Some of the sites are attracting little attention. Caughtya.org lists fewer than 10 U.S. infractions, RudePeople.com has about six stories of rudeness and Irate-Driver.com has none.
Many ask for donations to cover costs, but some owners are hoping to make money. Mark Buckman launched PlateWire in May after almost getting run off the road a few months earlier by several drivers, including one who was looking in his backseat and steering with his leg. The site now lists nearly 25,000 license-plate numbers, chastised for moves like tailgating with brights on and driving too slowly in the left lane. To drum up revenue, Mr. Buckman recently added advertising and an online store with branded merchandise. Users in about 15 states can also pay $2 to have a postcard sent to an offending driver, directing the accused to the site. He plans to launch another site this year that will allow people to rate and complain about local businesses and individuals. "If I can create jobs and create an empire that would be awesome, but my main goal is to make a Web site that can actually make real world changes," Mr. Buckman says.
Yahoo photo site Flickr has an "I hate stupid people" group that focuses on shots of regular people parking or dressing badly, among other misdeeds. It has nearly 60 members, as does the similar "Jerks" group, for pictures of "neighbor cats pooping on your lawn" or SUVs parked in compact spots. On Google Inc.'s YouTube, users have contributed videos of minor wrongs, like people cutting in line. On the blogs, one poster refers to this new form of revenge as "blogslapping," a word that previously just referred to when one blogger criticizes another's blog.
Caught on Tape
After Tim Halberg's Santa Barbara [Calif.] News-Press didn't show up on his doorstep for six days straight last March, he grabbed his camera and launched a stakeout. He stayed up all night waiting for the newspaper to arrive. When it did, he attached a note declaring, "I'm watching you! Don't ever steal my paper again," and left it on the driveway. Then he waited with his front door open a crack to catch the thief. The robed culprit: His neighbor at the time, a man who looks to be in his 50s. Mr. Halberg captured him on video walking up to the paper, reading the note and walking away.
Mr. Halberg never approached the neighbor about the issue directly, but he found four of the older newspapers in front of his house the next day. The 26-year-old wedding photographer posted the video on YouTube, where it's been viewed more than 850 times.
Online shaming is happening across the world, with several well-publicized cases in China. Last fall, one blogger posted photos and the license plate number of a Beijing driver who got out of his car and threw aside the bicycle of a woman blocking his way. The driver was quickly identified by Internet vigilantes and soon apologized on television for his behavior. And on a popular Web site last year, after one husband accused a student of having an affair with his wife, other users posted the student's phone number and other personal details. After that, groups of people showed up at his university and parents' home, according to some reports. The student denied the affair.
Some suggest that public shaming could be used here as a tool for social betterment. In a paper in the November issue of the New York University Law Review, Lior Strahilevitz, a law professor at the University of Chicago, suggested that roads would be safer if every car had a "How's My Driving?" placard on the bumper asking other drivers to report bad behavior.
The neighbor-as-Big-Brother approach is already being deployed offline. Since August, spectators at Cincinnati Bengals home games have been able to call 513-381-JERK to complain about rowdy fans. When a call comes in, security zooms in on the area with stadium cameras, confirms there's a problem and dispatches security. Initially, the hotline was receiving more than 100 calls a game, about 75% of which were crank calls. Reports were recently down to about 40 a game, with less than 25% being crank calls.
Posting a snarky message online is often safer than confronting bad behavior face to face. "You never know how people are going to react in person," says Scott Terry, 32, who works in advertising in Chicago. Last spring, he posted a photo on Flickr of a "cell phone bus yapper" who disrupted his morning commute. The caption: "Can't you use your inside voice?"
For others, posting can be revenge enough. In April, Grace Davis, 51, a stay-at-home mom in Santa Cruz, Calif., captured a "pushy customer" wearing a Hermès-like scarf and black sunglasses while ordering around sales people at Molinari Delicatessen in San Francisco with words like "gimme." Ms. Davis posted the photo online and wrote "Not nice! No fresh Molinari raviolis for you, madam" over the woman's face. "I can just happily walk away," says Ms. Davis, "because as we say in New Age Santa Cruz, 'It's out in the universe now.'"
 

MikeyDB

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1984 and we're all doing Big Brother's job for Homeland Security...

Thank you America!....and of course Britain where the camera is a standard fixture watching those "free-citizens"....
 

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1984 and we're all doing Big Brother's job for Homeland Security...

Somehow I would find all of this more excusable if we were actually somehow helping the crime situation... but we're not. we're just tattling on people for minor infractions. Who feels they have a right to a quiet morning commute? Bad parking? this is something that needs reporting to the general public? i think not. this is stuff that annoys us, and we b#$ch about to make ourselves feel better, not to perform a grand public service.

stake out the local drug dealer and catch photos of license plates there. Or snap photos of johns and hookers, help the cops prosecute them. these at least do more than just make yourself feel better about having been annoyed. Or better yet, become a C.O.P.... citizen on patrol, and help watch the bars for people who are obviously drunk getting into their cars. ah, I could go on all day. lol
 

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Somehow I would find all of this more excusable if we were actually somehow helping the crime situation... but we're not. we're just tattling on people for minor infractions. Who feels they have a right to a quiet morning commute? Bad parking? this is something that needs reporting to the general public? i think not. this is stuff that annoys us, and we b#$ch about to make ourselves feel better, not to perform a grand public service.

stake out the local drug dealer and catch photos of license plates there. Or snap photos of johns and hookers, help the cops prosecute them. these at least do more than just make yourself feel better about having been annoyed. Or better yet, become a C.O.P.... citizen on patrol, and help watch the bars for people who are obviously drunk getting into their cars. ah, I could go on all day. lol


Exactly. It's a new day, and this type of public disclosure on the internet is both immoral and degrading. Ye without sin....
 

MikeyDB

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Wouldn't a break from the ineptitude and plain foolishness of our government and law enforcement people be really great!?

As Canadians we spend millions to support police that can't prevent crime, a court system that hands out a slap on the wrist as punishment (to the wealth of course..poor folk are another story...) and now we're left to tattling on each other over the most ridiculous nonesense...

Politicians of Canada should be charged as a group with dereliction of duty and criminal negligence...as starters...
 

karrie

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Karrie

Wouldn't a break from the ineptitude and plain foolishness of our government and law enforcement people be really great!?

As Canadians we spend millions to support police that can't prevent crime, a court system that hands out a slap on the wrist as punishment (to the wealth of course..poor folk are another story...) and now we're left to tattling on each other over the most ridiculous nonesense...

Politicians of Canada should be charged as a group with dereliction of duty and criminal negligence...as starters...

Well, i might agree with you if i hadn't heard at least twenty complaints in the last few days, both on this forum, on tv, and from people in my real world, about governmental interference in our lives, and too much social spending. we expect gov. and police to prevent crime, but not to spend on it or interfere in the lives of the general public to try to prevent it. if i understood the ways you expect prevention, perhaps i'd agree. but it seems to me that expecting government to stay out of our lives, but handing out hoorahs to the neighbor for interfering in almost the exact same way, only in a non-impartial way, is hypocritical of society as a whole.
 

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When you take away a citizenry's right and facility to police itself, you create an atmosphere where dependence is obligatory. Take native Canadians for example, recipients of social assistance...

Nothing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING irks me more than witnessing people abuse the social safety net in this country. And if you call the authorities..."Well Mr. Mikey we can't do anything about that situation unless we see it ourselves..."

I saw a young woman selling hypos and drugs from a car down the street, while she was parked in a Pizza Hut parking lot....blocked in by a police cruiser. These cops were chatting to the convenience store operator across the street and when told about this situation...."We're on a training exercise for my partner who's just come onto the force...we're too BUSY to look into that situation..."

Cops.... a necessary evil in a world with governments that renders its citizens hostage to a corrupt and inept system....
 

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Sometimes "snoops" save lives too

If the neighbors had been more concerned about the strange young boy living next door with the 40 something man.....in the news the past few days...

If they had become more interested when another younger boy was introduced four years later....as the first one was "getting older"......

The young one may recover but I don't hold much sunlight in the life of the 14 year old who has seen and lived hell and survived....

I agree some people are far too invasive to the point of nuisance.... but I'd really appreciate knowing someone had their eye on my newspapers if they gathered for a bit on the driveway - or my mail piled up.

Missing Boys William 'Ben' Ownby, Shawn Hornbeck Found Alive in Missouri

Saturday, January 13, 2007
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William 'Ben' Ownby, left, and Shawn Hornbeck, right.




BEAUFORT, Mo. — A 13-year-old boy who vanished from the gravel road near his home five days ago was found alive Friday about 60 miles away in a suburban St. Louis home, along with a 15-year-old boy missing since 2002, authorities said.
The boys were found in a Kirkwood home belonging to Michael Devlin, 41, who has been charged with one count of first-degree kidnapping, Sheriff Gary Toelke said.
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The sheriff said both boys appeared unharmed. William Ownby, who goes by Ben, appeared somewhat dazed as he walked inside the sheriff's department, where he was reunited with his family Friday night.
"His eyes lit up like silver dollars," said Loyd Bailie, who was escorted to the Franklin County Sheriff's Department with Ben's parents. Everyone broke into tears and Ben's parents embraced him as tightly as they could, Bailie said.
The straight-A student and Boy Scout was last seen after he stepped off his school bus and ran toward his Beaufort home down a gravel road on Monday.
A friend who left the bus with the boy told authorities that after the two parted, he saw a small white pickup with a camper shell speeding away from where Ben had been walking.
Searchers on foot, horseback and all-terrain vehicles looked for Ben in the hilly area about 60 miles southwest of St. Louis.
Toelke said the break in the case came Thursday night. Kirkwood city police officers were serving a warrant on an apartment complex when they noticed a white truck matching the description of a vehicle authorities had been searching for in the Ownby investigation.
Kirkwood officers contacted the Franklin County Sheriff's Department and determined where the owner of the truck was and then searched Devlin's house.
Toelke said authorities were surprised to find another boy who identified himself as Shawn Hornbeck.
Hornbeck disappeared from his Richwoods home in October 2002, when he was 11. He went for a bike ride and never returned.
Hornbeck's parents, Pam and Craig Akers, were reunited with their son, Toelke said.
His parents have devoted themselves to bringing missing people home since Hornbeck vanished over four years ago from his hometown 65 miles southwest of St. Louis.
His parents, dozens of volunteers and sniffer dogs searched for weeks. The couple set up a Web site and listened to anyone who offered a tip.
Craig Akers, Shawn's stepfather, quit his job as a software designer to devote his time to a foundation bearing his son's name. They depleted their savings, borrowed against their retirement and talked to psychics. The financial strain forced both of them back to work.
A retired police officer volunteered to work on the case until Shawn was found.
Even though so much time had passed, Pam Akers said her son is frozen in her memory as an 11-year-old boy.
"It's been four years," she said on the anniversary of his disappearance last fall. "But for me, it's just been one long continuous day."
Toelke said authorities were still investigating the motive behind the abductions. Franklin County Prosecutor Robert Parks said more charges are likely to be filed.
"There are a lot of things we don't know right now," Toelke said.
Neighbor Rick Butler, 43, said the FBI came to his door Thursday night and showed a picture of Ben, asking if he had seen him. He said he had not. But he had seen a boy he now believes was Hornbeck.
He said he saw no evidence that the boy now believed to be Hornbeck was scared or trying to get away. He had seen Devlin and the teen pitch a tent in the courtyard.
"I didn't see or hear anything odd or unusual from the apartment," Butler said. "I just figured them for father and son."
Devlin worked at a local pizzeria and an overnight shift answering phones at a funeral home, the St. Louis Post Dispatch reported.
"He just acted like a relatively normal guy. Nothing unusual stuck out at me," his former landlord, Marvin Reid, told the newspaper.
 
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karrie

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Sometimes "snoops" save lives too

If the neighbors had been more concerned about the strange young boy living next door with the 40 something man.....in the news the past few days...

If they had become more interested when another younger boy was introduced four years later....as the first one was "getting older"......

The young one may recover but I don't hold much sunlight in the life of the 14 year old who has seen and lived hell and survived....

I agree some people are far too invasive to the point of nuisance.... but I'd really appreciate knowing someone had their eye on my newspapers if they gathered for a bit on the driveway - or my mail piled up.

And those are GOOD reasons to watch your neighbors. It's about safety and concern, not about scratching a 'b..ch itch', if you get my point.
 

MikeyDB

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If we can't hold our administrations and our law enforcement institutions accountable for their actions, what's the point in watching someone (to safeguard their security and property) anyway?

When the responsibility for guarding a community is given holis-bolis to private citizens, false reports of wrong-doing and entirely bogus false-hoods against someone who didn't return your lawn more speedily enough to please you...would mire the system beyond usefulness.

We voluntarily comit to purchasing protection from our governments and our judiciary and they continually and consistantly fail us....

If indeed we are "our brothers keeper" and our focus is concern for the well-being of each other, I don't know why anyone would have a problem with anyone else watching what's going on...

Unfortunately that's hardly the case and only the incredibly naive would subscribe to the notion that justice resides in the hearts and minds of his neighbors...

We know that's not the case. Yes not everyone is an evil conspirator waiting for an opportunity to screw you over some how but we strive to eliminate that possibility by investing in social institutions.
 

Curiosity

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Morning MikeyDB

I see your point - and an overzealous neighbor can be a detriment to any group of people co-habiting space either in a building or on a street. Me? I guess I am incredibly naive - but the payoff is worth it to me. I can handle rebuff by the local police, an angry neighbor, rather than the possibility a person may be in need of help.

I think getting to know people on a gradual and convenient basis - like a wave if they are out biking or walking, or saying "hi" first with a smile....breaks the ice and eventually you get to know their habits.

As in the case of the 14 year old - the story his abductor told was plausable - he said he was his son now living with him as his father - and good people in our age of fractured families - didn't question it.

Had any of the neighborhood kids approached him for chat and where he attended school (or in his case his abductor was "home schooling" him).... they could have sensed something was wrong - the boy behaved as if under some kind of intellectual incarceration - Stockholm I guess.

Just looking at him - his face pale and gray and the eyes darting as if being hounded.... a normal kid probably would have picked up on the "weird kid" next door....

Normal curiosity doesn't hurt .... intrusion has to be weighed with good evidence and observation. Even then the enforcement people as you say are overworked and probably receive lots of dead ends which are time wasters for them.

But we gotta still believe we can make a difference....even if we appear to be fools....
 

MikeyDB

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I agree with the "do what one can" idea, can you agree with me that we need to exercise considerably more criticism and demand accountability from our social institutions?
 

Curiosity

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I am with you there Mikey - have "Activist" tattooed on my forehead!

No seriously - I try not to "bother" with iffy things..... I think once we are alerted by the unnatural situations - all we need do it keep an eye out... a pattern change... things we would do on a normal day.

It is a shame we can't expect the people who CAN take care of these issues are so busy with important things (or uninterested)....but if it is a neighborhood issue it doesn't cost us much to monitor a situation.
 

Curiosity

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Found another "gruesome" story on this topic today.... I guess every EMT - Rescue Personnel - and all those involved in a community's patrol of suspicious events has a book of stories to share... here is one..(lifted off another forum)... I think children and the elderly seem the most vulnerable even when in their own homes but unassisted or unattended.

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[SIZE=+1]Reflections on an Encounter with a Dying Elderly Woman[/SIZE]
1/18/07 | 60Gunner


Recently, I received an elderly patient brought in by the medics who was “found down” (unconscious and unresponsive) by a neighbor who had passed by her apartment and noticed a foul odor. She had fallen for some inexplicable reason, and lay immobilized on her right side for what we estimate to have been about a week. Her entire right side from her knees to her shoulder was burned by the chemicals in her own urine. Her right hip looked like a rotten apple, bruised and mushy, destroyed to the bone under damaged skin. The wasting of her muscles caused a massive dumping of creatinine into her bloodstream, which in turned completely destroyed her kidneys. Nobody knows who the hell she is. She will almost certainly die tonight from Multiple Organ Dysfunction Syndrome (MODS), Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS), and septicemia. This was somebody's daughter, best friend, sister (?), mother (?). She must have been somebody to somebody on this earth at some time. And now it is very likely that she will die alone.
I wrestled with a lot of anger and remorse with this case. I was angry that someone could be left alone for a whole week, and that the only reason that EMS was called was because of the odor coming from the apartment. Had there been no odor, how much longer would she have lain there? It was likely that she would have died that night anyway, since by then she was in full-blown respiratory arrest. She had no paperwork, and when we notified her next of kin (after finally tracking them down due to some brilliant work by our social worker) they were completely shocked that their mother was ill, much less dying. After all, she had just walked around the lake with the daughter a week ago, and she was independent. What happened?
Elderly persons who are able to maintain their independence are generally encouraged to do so for as long as possible by their families, their friends and by their healthcare providers, with certain exceptions. The reason for this encouragement is simply that "if you don't use it, you lose it." It's a quality of life issue. If a person in her 70s or 80s is able to perform the basic activities of daily living as well as remain active in the community, then in my opinion, he or she should be openly encouraged to do so. Our society is all too ready to shunt the elderly, even independent elderly, off into "retirement communities" where the Baby Boomers and Generation X-ers don't have to deal with them. America is unique among nations in our treatment of the elderly. But I'll save the scathing indictment of our society’s treatment of the Greatest Generation for a later date.
My theory is that an independent person of any age becomes just another commonly-perceived thing in our busy world. We, being entertained by the unusual, tend to ignore the normal. We are thus attuned to exceptions rather than norms. So unless one is accustomed to watching the elderly (as a nurse or other provider would be), the independent elderly person simply does not draw one's attention. The person's neighbors, children, and friends become accustomed to the person going about his or her daily life and they do not become worried if the person does not call or is not seen for a few days. The more diligent people call the elderly person regularly. Still, everyone gets distracted by the demands of the world now and then.
But whether independent or not, an elderly person is at higher risk for injury in the home because his or her body, as high-functioning as it may be, is still old. Reflexes are not as quick. The heart loses its resilience. Arteries lose their flexibility and vascular resistance increases, causing hypertension. Bones lose their inherent toughness due to calcium loss (in men as well as women, but more so in women). Depth, contrast, and light perception are diminished. Hearing is not as sharp. Balance deteriorates. So one day, our elderly subject is at home and suffers a transient ischemic attack ("mini-stroke"), or a heart attack, or gets up too fast after taking medication for blood pressure and gets dizzy. Or maybe her bones have become so brittle that the simple act of pivoting shatters her hip. Or maybe she has had a martini or two, or three, with her lunch and is now a little tipsy. But down she goes. And she has no "life-alert" call button around her neck (comparatively few do), and either the phone is out of reach or she is in too much pain to crawl to it. Or she has hit her head on the floor and sustained a concussion, or any number of other factors.
Meanwhile, nobody comes around to see about her, or if somebody calls, when she does not answer they simply assume that she is out and about. She could cry out for help, but may not be heard if she is in a room where her voice will not carry. The days go by, with no help. But then somebody begins to notice that something is amiss. It takes awhile for us to perceive these things when someone is usually so independent...
"I haven't seen Aunt Louise lately. Have you?" "Now that you mention it, I haven't. But you know her; she's always out doing something." "Yeah, you're probably right."
More days go by. But then the neighbors begin to notice something. The mail keeps piling up in front of her door, or in her mailbox, but her car is still parked out front. Her dog has been outside for days. People have come by, but she doesn't answer her door. It was guessed that maybe she had decided to go on a trip. She did that before, and she can afford it.
All the while, the person's body is breaking down under the enormous strain that forced immobility places on it. Skin breaks down and ulcerates as pressure cuts off the blood supply to the surface. The body begins to break down muscle tissue (and not fat) in order to maintain the supply of nutrients and proteins that the body must have to function. The major products of this process are ketones and creatinine kinase- both of which are lethal in high concentrations. The longer a person stays in this predicament, the worse things get for the body as it tries desperately to keep the important functions going. The buildup of ketones makes the blood acidotic. The pH of human blood has a very narrow normal range (7.35 to 7.45), and to go beyond this range in either direction is incompatible with life. The kidneys will secrete bicarbonate in order to buffer the blood, but only for so long before becoming overwhelmed. And when all that creatinine kinase produced from muscle wasting reaches the kidneys, it clogs the glomeruli and the kidneys are no longer able to filter out the sludge. From that point, the downward spiral becomes more precipitous. Since the person has not had anything to drink for days, there is no way to flush out this destructive substance that clogs the nephrons. So the kidneys simply shut down. Lethal toxins begin to build up in the body at a more rapid rate. But that's not all by a long, long way. Our subject has more misery to experience before she intersects with my life.
Human waste excoriates the skin on contact, and after days without being washed away, whole areas of skin are completely gone. Infection sets in, and within days the person becomes septicemic- that is, the infection reaches the bloodstream and is carried throughout the body; from this point, all major organs are affected except for the brain (for awhile), thanks to the blood/brain barrier. Septic shock occurs. Acute respiratory distress develops. The major organs begin to shut down, one by one. The kidneys have already failed, and now the other major organs become utterly ruined.
Finally a concerned neighbor, or the mailman, or a family member who can't stand it anymore, calls the police. They arrive, talk to whoever called, look in the mailbox, look at the outside of the house, and knock on the door. And knock again, and again, and again. At some point, they decide to go into the house or apartment. And the first thing they notice is the smell. The medics are called, and soon the person is lying in our treatment room.
Could this have been avoided? I don't know. I suppose if our lady was in a nursing home or some other facility, it could have been avoided. Putting Aunt Louise into a nursing home or adult family home is a difficult decision, particularly if she appears perfectly healthy for her age. In her case, would it have been appropriate? I don’t think so. But could something have been done to prevent this poor lady from suffering for as long as she did? I certainly think so! But it requires that everyday people- including me- to do something that has fallen out of style in our selfish society. That thing is called being a good neighbor. It involves getting to know the people who live around us. The more we know our neighbors, the more likely we are to notice when something is wrong. Unless we know our neighbors, we will not be able to avert a disaster like this.
But one must come to grips with the fact that sometimes otherwise independent elderly people just go down, and where they go down will make no difference regarding prevention of the event. It’s what happens after the event that serves to indict or uphold us. We must not allow the media, the movies, the magazines, the TV shows, and our own "busy-ness" to blind us to the lovely human beings who live right next door. The price we have paid is that our own neighborhoods turn against us because we decide not to "get involved". And people like this dear old lady show up in my Emergency Room covered in week-old filth to die long, miserable deaths. So I challenge the dear reader to do something completely opposite what our society and our media tell us that we ought to do. Don't live unto yourself. Make friends with your neighbors. Get involved. You can be a hero!
 

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we decide not to "get involved". And people like this dear old lady show up in my Emergency Room covered in week-old filth to die long, miserable deaths. So I challenge the dear reader to do something completely opposite what our society and our media tell us that we ought to do. Don't live unto yourself. Make friends with your neighbors. Get involved. You can be a hero!

Good article! The last four lines in particular are wonderful I think! Maybe that is a lesson plan we should all attempt to adopt. The problem with many of us, especially in large cities, is we do not take this necessary time to befriend our neighbours. How much nicer life would be, I think, if we would do so!
 

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Good morning Sanctus!

I met my new neighbors two summers ago in an unglorious fashion - tripping in my garage while carrying two bags of "stuff" to the garbage can. I did a header on the cement floor and broke my right arm .... for a few days I looked like I had failed football training camp - face black and blue and one wing in a strange position..... I had so much attention and food and "just dropping by to say hi".... I thought my situation actually gave the neighbors a reasonable excuse to meet me without seeming to be nosy.... I loved those days - and while the arm gave me little pain except when I needed it to move....I actually thought of starting to "limp obviously" when my arm finally healed....just so I could get more attention hahaha...

Since that time I see other gifts of caring going on all the time among these people and feel like I've dropped into a bit of heaven even for a short while... people do care if they can get past and overcome the "usual nosy neighbor" syndrome we all paste on them. Right now we're focused on a nurse who is taking time out for cancer treatment....she's a fighter and always seems to have way more food than she can eat so she invites us in for "visits and coffee"....and to admire the hundreds
of hats everyone keeps knitting and buying for her.... as she is beautifully bald....for some a testament to a courageous warrior these days.

People resist getting help of many cases - because it makes them seem frail, or old, or helpless, but in denying that help - they deny the people around them from showing honest caring which is deep within most of us waiting to be used.
 

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Good morning Sanctus! .

And a very good morning to you too!!!

I met my new neighbors two summers ago in an unglorious fashion - tripping in my garage while carrying two bags of "stuff" to the garbage can. I did a header on the cement floor and broke my right arm .... for a few days I looked like I had failed football training camp - face black and blue and one wing in a strange position..... I had so much attention and food and "just dropping by to say hi".... I thought my situation actually gave the neighbors a reasonable excuse to meet me without seeming to be nosy.... I loved those days - and while the arm gave me little pain except when I needed it to move....I actually thought of starting to "limp obviously" when my arm finally healed.....

Seems a rather extreme way to meet your neighbours:) But you know, your story is uplifting. It shows what I suspect in my heart, that people are not necessarily bad, but full of good intentions given the right circumstances. We need this connection, I think, especially in today's hectic world.

Since that time I see other gifts of caring going on all the time among these people and feel like I've dropped into a bit of heaven even for a short while... people do care if they can get past and overcome the "usual nosy neighbor" syndrome we all paste on them. .


I do too, and that is what confirms for me a belief in God. That is my thing, not necessarily i imagine how you see it:) But in essence I see so many random and unselfish acts of kindness all around me that it humbles me sometimes.

Right now we're focused on a nurse who is taking time out for cancer treatment....she's a fighter and always seems to have way more food than she can eat so she invites us in for "visits and coffee"....and to admire the hundreds
of hats everyone keeps knitting and buying for her.... as she is beautifully bald....for some a testament to a courageous warrior these days..


How wonderful. And through this experience I believe is how "community" is born.

People resist getting help of many cases - because it makes them seem frail, or old, or helpless, but in denying that help - they deny the people around them from showing honest caring which is deep within most of us waiting to be used.


I suspect you are correct. I also think they resist letting their guards down out of fear. I was recently involved with a cancer patient who has since passed(God rest his soul) who was deeply suspicious of why the people of his family were staying around him. His belief was they wanted part of his money or possessions. He could not see they truly cared for him and wanted only to do what they could to alleivate his suffering. There are so many good things in people, if we only open our hearts a little, let our walls down a bit, and let them see beyond our exteriors.
 

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At the risk of sounding like Pollyanna - when I am really her evil twin...... I know for a fact because I have experienced this:

You can't get a "high" higher than doing a deed for another.

Even so when I am in the midst of "doing" something which I consider care and help, I am tormented by the ugly side of "what are you bargaining for?"...... I guess we all have demons like this.

Perhaps our culture gears us to think we "do" for reasons rather than simple caring.
 

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At the risk of sounding like Pollyanna - when I am really her evil twin...... I know for a fact because I have experienced this:

You can't get a "high" higher than doing a deed for another.

Even so when I am in the midst of "doing" something which I consider care and help, I am tormented by the ugly side of "what are you bargaining for?"...... I guess we all have demons like this.

Perhaps our culture gears us to think we "do" for reasons rather than simple caring.


You're right. It's a crap shoot, to coin a phrase. Some people you help are truly grateful, but others look only to use you once you've helped them. I had a friend years ago that I was always helping, with money, time, attention, until one day I realized our entire friendship was based on what I could do for her. I had to end that cycle, for I had become her enabler to use me. Wasn't her fault either, because I LET her use me.

But still, we should offer help, but also exercise caution in dealing with other people.
 

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Darleneonfire

I agree - people do tend to use those who are easily used...that is their problem entirely and is only ours if we allow it to happen over and over....

My "bargaining" statement was directed at me however.... the bargaining with fate for a smoother road ahead for me......I have a few life decision issues this week and have been "doing for others" as
often as I can... knowing that I hope I am banking my positives! lol