The right economic model ? Ireland !!!

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Reverend Blair

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RE: The right economic mo

Ah yes, the dream model of the corporatists...every working harder for less and less and all the unionists hanging from tree branches.

What happens when the people start to look around and ask what it is they are working for, Jim?
 
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RE: The right economic mo

just remarking with regards to the corporate tax rate in ireland.
How can that possibly be a model?
It can't.
Models are meant to be copied. Ireland's success is based on "beggar-thy-neighbour". IE - Not everyone can have a lower tax rate than their neighbouring countries. Therefore, it can't be a model in this regard.
It's a prisoner's dilemma writ large and they're just being self-interested and taking advantage of everyone else. 'corse if everyone does this then everyone is worse off. I also like to call such behaviour immoral.
 
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Reverend Blair

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RE: The right economic mo

I like to call it the short-sighted actions of PFGHs, Albertzz.

Unfortunately, you will find that nobody has answered my questions about the real costs. Toro has admitted that there are formulas to take them into account, but he hasn't worked out what that does to the profit/loss column. Since he is the self-proclaimed economist of this site, I think he owes us that.
 
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Re: RE: The right economic mo

albertzz said:
just remarking with regards to the corporate tax rate in ireland.
How can that possibly be a model?
It can't.
Models are meant to be copied. Ireland's success is based on "beggar-thy-neighbour". IE - Not everyone can have a lower tax rate than their neighbouring countries. Therefore, it can't be a model in this regard.
It's a prisoner's dilemma writ large and they're just being self-interested and taking advantage of everyone else. 'corse if everyone does this then everyone is worse off. I also like to call such behaviour immoral.
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Its a great model. Regulatory competition has always been an impetus for change to spur growth, especially for ossified systems like you see in Europe. Create the conditions for a robust economy and it is likely to happen. Or sit on your fat duff and whine, like the socialists, and watch everything just float away.

Besides, Ireland's success owes more to it than low taxes. Its an English speaking country that has (had) relatively low wages and is highly educated.
 
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albertzz

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RE: The right economic mo

I don't follow.
How is making your corporate taxation rate lower than your neighbours a model? A model is something that can be copied. This by definition cannot be copied, besides being morally dubious as I alluded to earlier.
 
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Re: RE: The right economic mo

albertzz said:
I don't follow.
How is making your corporate taxation rate lower than your neighbours a model? A model is something that can be copied. This by definition cannot be copied, besides being morally dubious as I alluded to earlier.
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Call it whatever you want. And I would agree - taxes are morally dubious.

Rev, you made me laugh, and I don't mean at you this time. :wink:
 
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Reverend Blair

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RE: The right economic mo

You'll find that happens from time to time, Toro. You'll also find that when I ask questions it's usually because I already have a pretty good idea of the answers.

Plugged those numbers in yet?
 
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Reverend Blair

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RE: The right economic mo

Your girlfriend is Tony Blair's father, Toro...that's clear by your avatar.

I'm still wondering about those numbers though. Don't forget to figure in the child labour.
 
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"[c.sub.0] 100 + l0/3.[10.sup.-2] = 430 (thousand rubles)."


How many "rubles" do you think your worth?
 
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