The rabid, vindictive rage of Remainers now borders on the pathological

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It takes quite a lot to shock a journalist. You might think we would be inured to this: that almost no form of outrageous political behaviour could evoke more than a wry shrug. But I have to say – absolutely sincerely – that I have been shocked by the rabid, outrageous, visceral hatred that is emanating from the Remain team in what passes for public debate but is deteriorating into simple calumny...

The rabid, vindictive rage of Remainers now borders on the pathological




Janet Daley
17 February 2018
The Telegraph
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Remainers protest outside Parliament last year Credit: AP


It takes quite a lot to shock a journalist. You might think we would be inured to this: that almost no form of outrageous political behaviour could evoke more than a wry shrug. But I have to say – absolutely sincerely – that I have been shocked by the rabid, outrageous, visceral hatred that is emanating from the Remain team in what passes for public debate but is deteriorating into simple calumny.

God knows, we have seen vitriol before in British political life, much of it gratuitously personal. From the shameless snobbery and misogyny of the anti-Thatcher attacks (“the greengrocer’s daughter”) to the hysterical “Blair is a war criminal” farrago, there has been no shortage of ad hominem denigration. But this is of a different order.

For one thing, it does not have the plausible justification of those earlier episodes: however much you supported the Thatcher reforms, they did actually have a cataclysmic impact on some industries and the local workforces which depended on them, and however you felt about the Saddam regime, the Iraq war resulted in a great many possibly needless deaths.

But what we are talking about now is future trade deals whose consequences for UK financial and business sectors (and hence economic growth) are disputed. To listen to the irreconcilable Remainers, you would think we were preparing to use chemical weapons on the population of the Home Counties – or, putting it in more relevant terms, to forcibly expel all of the European migrants who now live here in peace.

I fear that it was my youthful generation of political activists which began this demonising of our adversaries whose views we liked to claim were too unforgivable to be given a fair hearing. But back in the day, we were up against people who were complicit in the murder of civil rights workers or in favour of dropping napalm on civilians – not proponents of a different sort of tariff arrangement.


A group of pro-EU supporters gather outside Parliament to protest against Brexit Credit: Barcroft Media

It is worth noting that this level of wild abuse has no precedent in the history of the argument over EU membership. The original “bastards” – the Eurosceptics who brought down John Major’s government – argued and obstructed relentlessly in the name of what they considered to be sacred principles: the sovereignty of the British Parliament and the supremacy of British law. They did not make scathing public pronouncements on the moral unfitness of their opponents or engage in unhinged rants about their private lives.

You will gather that I am referring here to the bizarre tirades which followed Boris Johnson’s speech last week setting out a possible vision for the post-Brexit future. You needn’t be a supporter of the Johnson leadership ambitions (as, indeed, I am not) to have found this hate-fest weirdly disproportionate and distasteful.

Clearly, the spectre of a Boris Johnson premiership is so terrifying to Brussels that its small army of Remainer allies must be summoned to battle stations every time he emerges into the light. The one charge of substance in the repeated assaults on his character revolves around the battle bus claim that an extra £350 million per week would become available for the NHS after Brexit. That is certainly contentious – but it is not yet patently, certifiably false like the claims of the Remain camp that unemployment would rocket and economic growth collapse if Leave won the Referendum vote. So who made the more seriously misleading statements? Or, to put it another way, who was the bigger liar?

Where does it come from then, this ruthless campaign designed to smother legitimate argument in blanket opprobrium? Some of it certainly emanates from vested interests: Big Corporations (as represented by the CBI) for whom the EU single market is an untrammelled paradise of profit complete with the sort of regulatory system that undermines smaller competitors, and Big Labour whose power over national workforces is enshrined in EU “solidarity” protectionism.

But we have known – and argued about – all of this for years. What we are hearing now is not argument: it is vindictive, inchoate rage which seems to border on the pathological. The most well-organised and obviously orchestrated face of this is the Blairite machine.

Undoubtedly a great many career trajectories (most notably Mr Blair’s own) were disrupted by the nation’s decision. That disappointment is compounded by the Corbynite coup within Labour which has left many of its sitting MPs staring into an indefinite abyss. Hence, the visible (and endlessly audible) desperation of the likes of Lord Adonis and Ed Balls who address the country with an oddly identical frantic delivery which speaks of despair.

Along with the Blair contingent there are the Friends of George Osborne and his old gang at the Treasury who have not yet given up on Project Fear. Perhaps that is the key to what is really going on here. This is a kind of monster movie: “The Revenge of the Centrist Zombies” who do not yet realise that they are dead. Having snuffed out dynamic political debate for a generation, they are outraged to find that, given a chance to have a direct say in actual policy, the electorate could be awakened from its apathetic slumber.

Like a dog that chews its paws out of boredom, the country had become neurotically frustrated by democratic inactivity. Even more terrifying, once it was aware that it could actually be heard, it decided that the whole business wasn’t pointless anymore. Maybe we are living through an ugly but necessary repudiation of non-politics.

The rabid, vindictive rage of Remainers now borders on the pathological
 

mentalfloss

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Do you honestly think people still believe this shyte?

A few nutbars come out and suddenly millions of people are the same?


You might as well be posting pieces from the national enquirer.
 

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Do you honestly think people still believe this shyte?

A few nutbars come out and suddenly millions of people are the same?


You might as well be posting pieces from the national enquirer.

The article doesn't blame all Remainers. Blaming everyone on one side for how they voted in the referendum has been the job of the rabid Remainers: those who think that all the 17,410,742 people who voted for Brexit are thick working class racist oiks who "didn't know what they were voting for".

Most Remainers accept that Britain is a democracy and that a democratic decision has been taken by the people and that the government must now take Britain out of the EU and they support the government in that. But there are some diehard Remainers who are doing all they can to overturn the biggest democratic vote in British history: the likes of Gina Miller and Anna Soubry and Philip Hammond and Tony Blair and others.

Then there was a group of European politicians and business people and other "worthies" in Munich yesterday who watched a speech by Theresa May who were genuinely hoping that she would be persuaded not to go through with Brexit. They were genuinely hoping that democracy in Britain would be subverted. They were disappointed, though, when May told them that she is going through with Brexit as that is what the people voted for. Those foreign Remainers she was talking to seem to have no idea of the concept of democracy and want a democratic decision by the British people to be simply ignored.

One woman watching May's speech yesterday in Munich was Christine Lagarde, head of the IMF, who was in the vanguard of Project Fear during the referendum, when she told us all the horrific things that would happen to the British economy as soon as the British people vote for Brexit, if they were to vote that way (horrific things that have not yet come to pass). She even had the audacity to roll her eyes and leave the speech. She's clearly not happy at seeing a country showing the world it is a democracy which respects its people's democratic decisions.
 

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Yes, there are things that are common across entire swaths of groups.

For instance, if you wanted to discuss all Brexiters uniformly, it's fair to say they all voted for Brexit and what the natural consequences of such a vote are.

That is nothing whatsoever like this characterization of a few clowns representing the entire group.

Stop wasting people's time to talk about tabloid bullshit like this.
 

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The rabid, vindictive rage of Remainers now borders on the pathological

What a witch.

Try not to swallow your tongue.
 

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Why, does the truth hurt?
:)

70 years ago many brits fought off the nazis...now, slightly less than half of them are trying to vote them in.

The down side of poorly regulated immigration.
 

Danbones

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No I watch the pain on your face and laugh
:)
Fakenewsmoania I think they should call it.
I'm sure soros owns part of a drug company that could "treat" that, he could make millions.
 

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No I watch the pain on your face and laugh
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Fakenewsmoania I think they should call it.
I'm sure soros owns part of a drug company that could "treat" that, he could make millions.

The "pain on my face" is a great, big grin at the daily scrambled eggs that you offer up, on here.
"Here is your brain on the Canadian Content Forum"
 

Blackleaf

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Why, does the truth hurt?
:)

70 years ago many brits fought off the nazis...now, slightly less than half of them are trying to vote them in.

The down side of poorly regulated immigration.

I'm with Churchill, who wanted a European political union but for Britain to play no part in it.
 

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Then there was a group of European politicians and business people and other "worthies" in Munich yesterday who watched a speech by Theresa May who were genuinely hoping that she would be persuaded not to go through with Brexit. They were genuinely hoping that democracy in Britain would be subverted. They were disappointed, though, when May told them that she is going through with Brexit as that is what the people voted for. Those foreign Remainers she was talking to seem to have no idea of the concept of democracy and want a democratic decision by the British people to be simply ignored.

The European union (and especially the Germans, big surprise) have absolutely
zero support for any kind of democracy in Europe.

They view it as a useless exercise to keep the plebs arguing, while the real
agenda must be implemented.

Hardcore Remainers should be disgraced into submission.. or disappeared. :p

I see Brendan Cox will soon be gone from the headlines, thankfully.
 

Blackleaf

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The European union (and especially the Germans, big surprise) have absolutely
zero support for any kind of democracy in Europe.

They view it as a useless exercise to keep the plebs arguing, while the real
agenda must be implemented.

Hardcore Remainers should be disgraced into submission.. or disappeared. :p

I see Brendan Cox will soon be gone from the headlines, thankfully.

I just can't see what Remainers find so attractive about an undemocratic, corrupt and economically sclerotic superstate that makes them want to overturn a democratic decision in order to stay in it.

As for Brendan Cox, the former husband of murdered Remain campaigner Jo Cox, he's just stepped down as patron of several charities after sex abuse allegations were made against him.