The Problem With Dubya

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Ahh a blackmailer what part of Ontario did you say you were from Jay?Maybe I could have a couple people I know come by and pay you a visit :p :wink:
 
Jay

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It's just a small fee, ITN had to pay, why not you?

My goons are bigger than your goons.... :p
 
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RE: The Problem With Duby

He's in trouble. Most presidents don't run into this until the halfway mark of their second terms. He should be legacy building and making plans for library. Instead he's getting whipped like a cheap hound.
 
Ocean Breeze

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Reverend Blair said:
He's in trouble. Most presidents don't run into this until the halfway mark of their second terms. He should be legacy building and making plans for library. Instead he's getting whipped like a cheap hound.
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yep, he is in trouble. How much is yet to be determined. Depends on what happens in the next while, I guess.

Have very little sympathy for him. He is the author of his own misfortune. Not sure he was ever really capable for the job itself.......but money and name allowed him the opportunity to con his way into the higher political arena. Once there, he grew more ambitious, but his ambitions are not people /public related.......they are selfish motivated. He has used the role of presidency to further his own agenda......personal and otherwise. He is a discredit to the US population as a whole. He has tainted the US so much......it will take a long time to regroup into the ethical standard they claim to have......and earn the respect back.

(just some random thoughts on this)
 
Ocean Breeze

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I see the Bush-Zionist host-parasite system almost as a wounded, wild
animal, backed into a corner. So even though it is failing in Iraq,
losing political support at home, and is running low on cannon
fodder, it may in fact be more dangerous right now than ever before.
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just read the above on another site. .......and agree, that it might be even more dangerous now. It is unpredictable at the best of times......but when cornered.....it is hard to determine what they will resort to.
 
Toro

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RE: The Problem With Duby

Oh pish, posh. W's just clearing the decks for his brother Jeb, getting all the hard stuff out of the way. That way, Jeb and Condi will roll over the meek Democrats in 08. A Bush in the White House until 2016. Won't that be great!
 
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RE: The Problem With Duby

I think Hilary Clinton would be the Democrats best bet for 2008, whether she would win or not is a diferent matter. I would not know who would be a good running mate. I do believe she would beat Jeb Bush though.

But is America ready for a female President?
 
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RE: The Problem With Duby

Hillary would be a good choice. I don't that it matters much who either party runs in the end. Unless Georgie is impeached, disgracing the Republican party again, the next election will most likely break down pretty much like the last one...Jesusland against the rest of the country. The battle will again be in Florida and Ohio. It could go either way.

If Jeb Bush gets into power, the US will continue to marginalise itself on the world stage. They failed economic policies of the present Bush regime will continue. I doubt the US can withstand eight more years of that. There are already serious concerns about them economically and diplomatically.
 
Ocean Breeze

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Re: RE: The Problem With Duby

Reverend Blair said:
Hillary would be a good choice. I don't that it matters much who either party runs in the end. Unless Georgie is impeached, disgracing the Republican party again, the next election will most likely break down pretty much like the last one...Jesusland against the rest of the country. The battle will again be in Florida and Ohio. It could go either way.

If Jeb Bush gets into power, the US will continue to marginalise itself on the world stage. They failed economic policies of the present Bush regime will continue. I doubt the US can withstand eight more years of that. There are already serious concerns about them economically and diplomatically.
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rev: ya know.......if the American population is so gung ho on following up one loser of a leader by another of the same blood and want.....the jesusland folks to dominate their society......one has to just deal with it. If the American population want to build a dynasty of the unethical, immoral and dysfunctional , power hungry bush family.......it is their choice.

How this will affect the world is another story. If they want to marginalize themselves. islolate themselves further ......that is their choice too. The world will have to decide how much it really needs the US.........and gradually new alliances will be formed as they are now. Just as the USG has been giving the finger to other nations and world agencies........the rest of the world might start giving the finger to the US. ---and saying "no" more often than it is now.
 
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Yes the rest of the world (especially Europe) is so gratefull for what the American people did for them in the cold war, not to mention WWII and the Marshal Plan.

Spoiled brats they be....they should have left them to the wolves.....
 
Ocean Breeze

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gordo said:
Problem with Dubya.
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Problem, What Problem ?
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Bush's Road Gets Rougher

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By RICHARD W. STEVENSON
Published: June 20, 2005
WASHINGTON, June 19 - Five months after President Bush was sworn in for another four years, his political authority appears to be ebbing, both within his own party, where members of Congress are increasingly if sporadically going their own way, and among Democrats, who have discovered that they pay little or no price for defying him.

In some cases, Mr. Bush is suffering mere political dings that can be patched up, like the votes by the House this past week to buck him on withholding dues to the United Nations and retaining a controversial provision of the USA Patriot Act.

In others, the damage is more than cosmetic, as in the case of stem cell research, an issue on which a good portion of his party is breaking with him. In a few instances - most notably the centerpiece of his second-term agenda, his call to reshape Social Security - he is dangerously close to a fiery wreck that could have lasting consequences for his standing and for the Republican Party.

On Monday, Mr. Bush will face another test of his clout, when the Republican-controlled Senate tries again to overcome Democratic opposition and confirm John R. Bolton as ambassador to the United Nations. And with his poll numbers sinking as voters grow more restive about Iraq and the economy, he faces additional big challenges in coming weeks and months, from legislative battles over energy, trade and immigration to the possibility of a divisive Supreme Court confirmation fight.

The cumulative effect of his difficulties in the last few months has been to pierce the sense of dominance that he sought to project after his re-election and to heighten concerns among Republicans in Congress that voters will hold them, as the party in power, responsible for failure to address the issues of most concern to the public.

"The political capital he thought he had has dwindled to very little, and he overstated how much he had to begin with," said Allan J. Lichtman, a presidential historian at American University in Washington.

"Congress is like Wall Street - it operates on fear and greed," Mr. Lichtman said. "The Democrats don't fear him anymore, and they're getting greedy, because they think they can beat him. The attitude you see among Republicans in Congress is, my lifeboat first."

In the last week, Mr. Bush has responded by lashing out at Democrats, casting them as obstructionists, a strategy that carries some risk given that it seems to acknowledge an inability by Republicans to carry out a governing platform. Searching as well for a more positive message, the administration, which has always been reluctant to acknowledge that events are not unfolding precisely as planned, has embarked on a public relations campaign intended to reassure Americans that Mr. Bush is attuned to their concerns.

Mr. Bush has offered nothing new in the way of policy but is instead reiterating his views that the war in Iraq is worth the sacrifices it has demanded and that his approaches on issues like energy and trade are the best way of addressing economic jitters. But his message is being undercut somewhat by the more outspoken mavericks in his own party.

Among them are two potential candidates for Mr. Bush's job: Senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, who in an interview in the current issue of U.S. News & World Report said the administration's assertions on Iraq were "disconnected from reality," and Senator John McCain of Arizona, who on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday disputed Vice President Dick Cheney's characterization last week of the Iraqi insurgency as being in its last throes.

It is far too early to dismiss Mr. Bush as a lame duck. He remains exceedingly popular among Republicans, he has a skilled and aggressive political team around him, and he has had a way in the past of teasing full or partial victories from dire-looking situations. Even if he has to wheel and deal, he stands a good chance of signing an energy policy bill and a trade agreement with Central American nations this summer.

But he has already had to postpone his next big initiative, an overhaul of the tax code. And barring some crisis that creates another rally-round-the-president effect, analysts said, Mr. Bush's best opportunity to drive the agenda may be past.
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Did anyone see McCain on Meet the Press last night.??? Conversant, articulate, intelligent, calm and very rational.
 
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