The "OBL" Factor...Questions & More ?????

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I just see your and nero's posts and I see the same neocon bush loving believing mantra over and over. Open your eyes and see what is really going on and not just what faux news and O'reilly tell you.
 

Ocean Breeze

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jimmoyer said:
Yep, it sure would have been better for Palestine if Saddam kept paying the parents of suicide bombers 25k in a malevolent play for the peace you so righteously uphold.

It sure would have been better for the Kurds as the world grew disinterested in the northern no fly zone before the war and actually moved to end the embargo and the containment of the northern and southern zones.

Oh the Kurds? Why not the same passion? The Palestinians did not gain the world's passion when Jordan ruled the west bank for 20 years. Nor have the Kurds ever got the passion they scratch their heads about when looking at the world's logic.

I will give you the hypocrisy you so righteous denounce but little do you see the complexity of the hypocrisy you exhibit.

But Ocean's comment about not counting the dead civilian bodies is quite an example of not thinking about what it takes to verify for the likes of you, the reader.


that is really silly........SH was a problem.....and could have been dealt with differently, more intelligently and in a more civilized way. But sadly the only method the US comprehends is MUSCLE..... which eliminates the brains from the equation....and now we have seen what all their MUSCLE has done. Has not even captured the key man , ring leader, terrorist leader OBL...The USR has no patience (another bush LIE)and does not tolerate diplomatic solutions. Just shoot first and deal with the crap later.( aka make up excuses as you go along aka more lies.) Be it from the mouth or gun. Makes not much difference which. Face it, the US LOVES to intimidate. .........and that is TERRORISM. :twisted:

EACH time the USR threatens a nation.. it is TERRORISM. :twisted:
 

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"...as the sadistic USRegime does not respect life enough to do "body counts" and says so ." --- Ocean Breeze.


Here's why the civilian body counts aren't ever accurately tallied for some comfortable reader at home:


This is not like sports where you can have the delicious daily death statistic to feed the righteousness of some American warhawk who wants to prove to some wimpy liberal that the terrorists have indeed killed more fellow Iraqis than the Americans, even blowing up their own mosques to do so, while requesting in Guantanimo that the Koran be treated with care.

AND I DON'T want American soldiers piecing together children's limbs and an uncle's head and mother's left finger and spend hours making it a verifiable statistic for some newspaper to feed a reader's need to buttress whatever righteous bias they have.

It is easier to count dead American soldiers than the blood and guts of civilians killed by the terrorists and suicide bombers.

It is easier to count dead American soldiers because the platoon walking the street knows who in their own platoon just got gutted.

I don't want civilian body counts to be used by any reader's righteous bias du jour.

It's enough for the righteous reader to know the accurate count of dead Americans ---- something the world enjoys.

Self Centered?

Let's just say the world has a monopoly on that.

Comfortable Europeans didn't want to stop the blood shed in their own Balkans backyard.

Self Centered?

We all want our comfort, our entitlements.
 

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jimmoyer said:
"...as the sadistic USRegime does not respect life enough to do "body counts" and says so ." --- Ocean Breeze.


Here's why the civilian body counts aren't ever accurately tallied for some comfortable reader at home:


This is not like sports where you can have the delicious daily death statistic to feed the righteousness of some American warhawk who wants to prove to some wimpy liberal that the terrorists have indeed killed more fellow Iraqis than the Americans, even blowing up their own mosques to do so, while requesting in Guantanimo that the Koran be treated with care.

AND I DON'T want American soldiers piecing together children's limbs and an uncle's head and mother's left finger and spend hours making it a verifiable statistic for some newspaper to feed a reader's need to buttress whatever righteous bias they have.

It is easier to count dead American soldiers than the blood and guts of civilians killed by the terrorists and suicide bombers.

It is easier to count dead American soldiers because the platoon walking the street knows who in their own platoon just got gutted.

I don't want civilian body counts to be used by any reader's righteous bias du jour.

It's enough for the righteous reader to know the accurate count of dead Americans ---- something the world enjoys.

Self Centered?

Let's just say the world has a monopoly on that.

Comfortable Europeans didn't want to stop the blood shed in their own Balkans backyard.

Self Centered?

We all want our comfort, our entitlements.


sorry jimmy.........your smoke and mirrors will not work.
 

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jimmy........I am more interested in knowing what the REAL facts are about OBL........as everything that has come down the pike so far stinks to hi heaven.
 

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There is no excuse for not counting dead civilians, Jimmy. It's a despicable attempt to cover up the damage the US is doing.
 

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Reverend Blair said:
There is no excuse for not counting dead civilians, Jimmy. It's a despicable attempt to cover up the damage the US is doing.

indeed. It is also an attempt to glamorize war ( minimize the dead , destruction, maimed , while emphasizing the military actions as if they are sanitary) so the sheeple will continue to "support " it. IF the sheeple saw the TRUTH.......

No one glamorizes/sensationalizes " war "as studiously as the US does. There has to be a reason for this. bush relishes being a "war" prez.....'cause he can grant himself even more powers and lattitude .
 

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Does this group on this board know that both the war hawks and the peace protesters want those civilian body counts?

Think about it. Both want the proof to feed their bias.

Also think about the mechanics of providing you oh comfortable righteous reader a statistic that is verifiable.

I find that disgusting.

I don't care if the peace protesters or war hawks want some proof.

I don't want soldiers from any side piecing together a finger and an eye or dentures or some mom's left foot to come up with a statistic so verifiable that no comfortable reader can sit righteously doubt the numbers.

This lack of verifiable truth has daunted every war since mankind.

And the righteous reader should be denied such masturbatory pleasure.

I wouldn't want some soldier to piece together a pile of blood from a suicide bomber and then have you the righteous reader pontificate if that statistic is true or not.

You oh righteous readers of the world are not worth that kind of work.
 

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Does this group on this board know that both the war hawks and the peace protesters want those civilian body counts?


that might be the case for those with a political agenda. Many of us would prefer NOT to have ANY dead bodies at all....Many of us would prefer that all nations put down their damned weapons, and actually put them away and start solving issues in a civilized manner...like talking to each other......even if it takes a lot longer.
 

jimmoyer

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Yeah well I still find it disgusting for us comfortable readers to have people sort through a pool of blood to provide us noble readers some kind of count which will inevitably be doubted, or used to feed the bias of the day.

It's far easier and more automatic to count a dead soldier for reasons I thought was apparent to every one.

Yo Rev, those empty beer cans, I want a dead soldier count.
 

Reverend Blair

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No cans, 8 dozen empties in the back porch, 1 bottle on the table in the living room, 2 bottles on my desk (1 is only half empty though). There are also 3 coffee cups, 1 Milk Bone, and a cat who thinks it's my fault that it's raining.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Reverend Blair said:
No cans, 8 dozen empties in the back porch, 1 bottle on the table in the living room, 2 bottles on my desk (1 is only half empty though). There are also 3 coffee cups, 1 Milk Bone, and a cat who thinks it's my fault that it's raining.

getting the visual "feed" now. Like your cat. She/he might even like mine.;-)