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Interesting reply. You probably did not read the book or Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi's books as I have previously recommended. If you did, you would know that certain "terrorist" acts supposedly committed by Arabs were actually committed by the Mossad. This means that this organization engaged in murder {mind you this was done during a time of peace} and that it was NOT an act of war.

Am I to understand that you are endorsing murder?

Think that over very carefully.
 

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Interesting reply. You probably did not read the book or Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi's books as I have previously recommended. If you did, you would know that certain "terrorist" acts supposedly committed by Arabs were actually committed by the Mossad. This means that this organization engaged in murder {mind you this was done during a time of peace} and that it was NOT an act of war.

Am I to understand that you are endorsing murder?

Think that over very carefully.


Kill a few, you are a murderer, kill a few more and you are a mass murderer, kill thousands and they call you a General.

I'm an ex-soldier. With tight ties to the Mohawk Warrior Society. I have seen and done **** that will not leave my head, I have many demons. So do many Nations.

I will not justify murder, but it has been used by many to justify and end to the means. For all the evil **** some do, so good was done. Even by accident.

If that means I am guilty of endorsing whole sale murder, so beit. I've seen and heard enough from the Middle East, if the Isrealis drove the whole lot of them into the ocean to drown, I would be upset for a day or two. But I can assure you I would shed no tears, and sleep better at night.

I bet that changes your image of me.
 

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Interesting. I have always thought Haudenosaunee to be peaceful, devotional, and given to deep reflection. At least, that is the impression I have always had given that I am a big lacrosse fan from New York.

Well, may the Good Spirit guide you towards the Path of Peace.
 

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Interesting. I have always thought Haudenosaunee to be peaceful, devotional, and given to deep reflection. At least, that is the impression I have always had given that I am a big lacrosse fan from New York.

Well, may the Good Spirit guide you towards the Path of Peace.

Thank you.

Your assumption is correct, but the Haudenosaunee have not always been peaceful, we had the Mohawk Nation to do our fighting for the most part, but when the battle cry rings, no one sits.
 

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You're most welcome!

I was deeply disturbed by the troubles the Iroquois Nations had during the world baggataway games. For too long now there has been much dissension among the peoples and especially among their leadership. Seems like everyone wants a larger share of the pie and that compromise is as distant as ever.

But, at least there still remains the idea that unity (flimsy as it maybe) is still very possible. Let's hope that folks in the Middle East will experience some of that soon.
 

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Gopher this is what's happening around the world, it's not just the Muslims being slaughtered by Muslim Extremists but Christians are being slaughter as well. Whom hates who here? Islamophobic nice title for a coverup, a cancer has invaded Islam and it needs to be distroyed.

Militants kill two children of a missionary couple in Pakistan

10 Oct 2006 - Source: Sheraz Khurram Khan - ASSIST News Service


In an horrific incident of Christian persecution on September 1, some unidentified militants slew two children of a missionary couple who is working with At Any Cost Jesus Mission, a underground ministry evangelizing to the Muslim nations.


MUZAFFARABAD, PAKISTAN (ANS) - A press release sent via e-mail to ANS by Any Cost Jesus Mission said that the assailants torched the dead bodies of teenaged children Shalom, 15 and Sharon 14 after murdering them brutally in the northern district of Pakistan.


The teenaged victims according to the press release were secondary school students.


Shalom and Sharon were kidnapped along with their missionary parents and two other younger sisters 10 days before the murder. The militants asked them to convert to Islam but they refused,” said the press release.


So the militants killed Shalom first. Then they raped the girl and cut one of her breasts in front of her parents. She too died”, the press release quoted another underground missionary, Habel who it said broke the news to Any Cost Jesus Mission from a hidden place.


“Police and the military forces are backing the militants. Habel and his family was also attacked and their house was burnt but the Lord enabled them to escape to a hidden place. They (militants) also demolished a church and some houses were set on fire too”, the evangelization ministry claimed in the press release.


According to the press release the militants set the motorbike on fire by spraying petrol on it and left the dead bodies in a ditch along with a motorbike.
“The police declared a false statement that it was an accident and the petrol tank of the bike was open when they fell into the ditch and burnt by a spark”, alleged Any Cost Jesus Mission.


The press release said that the believers are living in a grip of fear and trouble following the killing of Shalom and Sharon.


The ministry further claimed in the press release that the militants are not allowing believers to pray.


“They are not even allowed to speak a single word about Christ or Christianity or Christians”, the press release quoted Habel as saying.


The tribal people and their leaders are also being murdered by the terrorists in the Neelum Valley, it said.


See Gopher even Muslims agree that these filthy vile Pigs are Muslim Terrorist, shutting up the voices who question these vile acts isn't going to work Gopher. Nice try thou, a failure for your brotherhood me thinks.
 

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Christians Killed by Hindus

The murder of anyone for any reason is inexcusable. While it is true that some Christians have been killed by Muslims, tens of thousands of Muslims have been killed by Christians as we have seen in Iraq.

But Christians have also been killed by Hindus:

http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=1404

2 September, 2004
INDIA Priests killed, churches ransacked by Hindu fundamentalists by Lorenzo Fazzini
Catholic activist John Dayal blames government impotence and western indifference to religious freedom.


New Delhi (AsiaNews) – According to John Dayal, national vice president of the All India Catholic Union, an organisation that represent India’s 16 million Catholics, “attacks against religious freedom in India do not draw the attention of Western civil rights organisations even though religious minorities are still victimised by Hindu fundamentalism.”
In the last 10 days the Indian Catholic Church has been hit by three serious violent incidents. On August 22, armed assailants attacked and beat up Father John Sunderam, a parish priest in Kubbu, in Jharkhand state’s Lohardaga district (eastern India) leaving him in a coma. Another priest, Father Albanus Tirkey also suffered injuries.
On August 26, a group of 300 Hindu fundamentalists stormed the Parish Church of Our Lady of Charity in the town of Raikia, in Orissa’s Kandhamal district (north-eastern India). The attackers burst into the church burning bibles, bringing down the Tabernacle and destroying statues of saints. Police was present at the scene but did not intervene. Later local authorities announced the arrest of three people charged with the mayhem in which six people were injured.
Both Orissa and Jharkhand are governed by the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), which backs Hindu fundamentalists.
On August 28, the most serious incident took place. Father Job Chittilappilly was killed at his parish in the town of Thuruthiparambu, Kerala state (south-western India). He was saying the Rosary in his private quarters. The circumstances of the crime –no signs of robbery and recent phone calls threatening him because of his pastoral activities among Hindu families– suggest the murder was premeditated.
Human rights activist John Dayal recently met Shivraj Patil, Union Home Minister, to remonstrate with him about the Christian minority’s adverse situation. “We can’t intervene because it is a local security matter,” was the minister’s terse reply.
Here is John Dayal’s interview with AsiaNews:
When the Congress Party was back in government many thought that the situation for religious minorities would improve . . .
Even if the BJP is no longer in power, Christians are still victims of attacks and violence. The worst cases are in Orissa, Punjab, Kerala, Uttar Pradesh and Jharkhand. Although fewer people are killed, violence against individuals and religious buildings has not ceased. Violations of religious freedom continue.
In the last few days there have been attacks against Catholics in India . . .
Catholics are not the only victims. Protestant believers and churches have also come under attack. This is why I met Union Home Minister Shivraj Patil to tell him about the serious attacks against Christians of the last few weeks.
What do you want from the government?
I explicitly told Minister Shivraj Patil –who is also responsible for religious minorities– that we want the government to better guarantee minorities’ religious freedom. I told him that we would like to see the situation of religious minorities placed on the national political agenda. Moreover, I said we want each and every violent incident to be fully investigated. I emphasised to him that anti-Christian attacks like those in Rajasthan and Orissa are now under the scrutiny of the international media and public opinion.
What did the minister say?
“We’ll see what we can do,” was his answer. He said that the Union government could not intervene in areas such as local security that are under the jurisdiction of each state.
What does western public opinion do for religious freedom in India?
We are backed by European Catholic and Evangelical groups, but western civil rights organisations are not interested in religious freedom.


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A recent study shows that as many as 655,000 Iraqis have been killed by Christian professing Bush:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/10/AR2006101001442_pf.html


Once again, FAR more Muslims have been killed by Christians than vice versa. Yet, we see no complaint from the posters here. A very shameful double standard, indeed.
 

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With all of the hate filled Islamophobic threads we continue to have on this forum, let's anticipate what the next one will look like.

Use this thread to post more hate, more sarcasm, more stereotypes, and to show your ignorance of Islam.

C'on you paid Mossad and MEK agents -- earn your money and post more hatred here.
Islamic Group Beheads Assyrian Priest, Crucifies 14 Year Old Boy in North Iraq
AINA
10/12/06


EXCERPT:


On Monday, October 9, a prominent Assyrian (also known as Chaldean and Syriac) priest, Fr. Paulos Iskander (Paul Alexander), was kidnapped by an unknown Islamic group. His ransom was posted at either $250,000 or $350,000. This group had demanded that signs be posted once again on his church apologizing for the Pope's remarks as a condition for negotiations to begin.

Father Alexander was beheaded on Wednesday.

An email from a priest in Sweden, Adris Hanna, describes the Muslim terror campaign against the Christians in Iraq:

The Syriac-Orhtodox priest Paulos Iskandar was kidnapped this Monday, October 9, and beheaded today Wednesday October 11.

The Bishop in Mosul wrote me an email tonight and told me that the funeral will be held in Mosul tomorrow.

Christians are living a terrified life in Mosul and Baghdad. Several priests have been kidnapped, girls are being raped and murdered and a couple of days ago a fourteen year old boy was crucified in the Christian neighborhood Albasra.

http://www.aina.org/news/20061012004656.htm

Only a Fool like you would Defend Islamic Terrorism..
:rolleyes:
 

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It wasn't Muslims who aborted 40 million babies in the USA. How "Christian" is that?
No, that's correct, those aren't muslims, muslims just NEVER DO things like that . Are you for real?

But to say more about you defendands, they bring more and more children on earth, and they say - Allah will feed them and take care of them, and the poor children end up being uneducated, angry and penniless human beings, who then say: We would like for all infidels to be slaved or deleted.
 

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So American "morality" in the form of exterminating children is perfectly acceptable to you?

Why I am not surprised?

That's just one way of Western pot calling the kettle black syndrome. Another to follow ...
 

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http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article1873835.ece

Another example of American morality in the form of rape torture of innocents:

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By Andrew Buncombe in Washington

Published: 15 October 2006



Lynddie England, the young woman associated with some of the most notorious photographs to emerge from Abu Ghraib, has offered new insights into the abuse scandal that rocked the US military and revealed how she acted to please her former lover.
Speaking for the first time since she was jailed more than a year ago, England revealed the abusive nature of her relationship with fellow reservist Charles Graner and suggested that her actions inside the Baghdad jail were largely directed by him. She has also reiterated claims made by her lawyers that much of the mistreatment of prisoners was carried out at the behest of military intelligence officers or the CIA.
"Yeah, I thought it was weird," said England, referring to the human pyramids she and other reservists constructed from naked and shackled Iraqi prisoners. "We were told we were supposed to do those things. They said 'Good job. Keep it up'."
England, 23, described how her sexually charged relationship with Graner - who she now describes as a "****head" - focused on her efforts to please him. He would take photographs of her during sex, sometimes as she performed oral sex on him. "I didn't want him to take them but he took pictures of everything," she said. "He kept a camera in his cargo pocket. He was always taking his camera out."
In September 2005, England, who has a two-year-old son fathered by Graner, was sentenced to three years in jail by a court martial after being convicted of conspiracy, maltreating detainees and committing an indecent act.
The abuse came to light after a series of photographs emerged showing the reservists posing alongside shackled and hooded prisoners, often naked and often being sexually humiliated. England was notoriously shown in one image leading a naked prisoner by a dog leash.
In an interview with Marie Claire magazine, she revealed how, soon after being deployed to Iraq, a group of soldiers discovered some animal carcasses, a goat and a cat, and cut off their heads. They took turns taking photographs, one as a soldier pretended to have sex with the goat's head. "Then they cut off the cat's head and shoved it on top of a soda bottle," she said. Graner also instituted a different kind of amusement when he would walk around the camp naked, with fluorescent dye poured over his penis.
Ms England's lawyer, Roy Hardy, said: "Everything they did, they took a picture of. I asked Lynndie why she let him. She said 'Guys like that. I just wanted to please him'. She was like a little plaything for him. The sexual stuff - the way he put her in those positions, that was just his way of saying 'Let's see what I can make you do'."
England also makes other claims about the jail. "I heard [a US contractor] did things to boys in his cell... I was told there were hangings of people in the doorways of cells."

Lynddie England, the young woman associated with some of the most notorious photographs to emerge from Abu Ghraib, has offered new insights into the abuse scandal that rocked the US military and revealed how she acted to please her former lover.
Speaking for the first time since she was jailed more than a year ago, England revealed the abusive nature of her relationship with fellow reservist Charles Graner and suggested that her actions inside the Baghdad jail were largely directed by him. She has also reiterated claims made by her lawyers that much of the mistreatment of prisoners was carried out at the behest of military intelligence officers or the CIA.
"Yeah, I thought it was weird," said England, referring to the human pyramids she and other reservists constructed from naked and shackled Iraqi prisoners. "We were told we were supposed to do those things. They said 'Good job. Keep it up'."
England, 23, described how her sexually charged relationship with Graner - who she now describes as a "****head" - focused on her efforts to please him. He would take photographs of her during sex, sometimes as she performed oral sex on him. "I didn't want him to take them but he took pictures of everything," she said. "He kept a camera in his cargo pocket. He was always taking his camera out."
In September 2005, England, who has a two-year-old son fathered by Graner, was sentenced to three years in jail by a court martial after being convicted of conspiracy, maltreating detainees and committing an indecent act.

The abuse came to light after a series of photographs emerged showing the reservists posing alongside shackled and hooded prisoners, often naked and often being sexually humiliated. England was notoriously shown in one image leading a naked prisoner by a dog leash.
In an interview with Marie Claire magazine, she revealed how, soon after being deployed to Iraq, a group of soldiers discovered some animal carcasses, a goat and a cat, and cut off their heads. They took turns taking photographs, one as a soldier pretended to have sex with the goat's head. "Then they cut off the cat's head and shoved it on top of a soda bottle," she said. Graner also instituted a different kind of amusement when he would walk around the camp naked, with fluorescent dye poured over his penis.
Ms England's lawyer, Roy Hardy, said: "Everything they did, they took a picture of. I asked Lynndie why she let him. She said 'Guys like that. I just wanted to please him'. She was like a little plaything for him. The sexual stuff - the way he put her in those positions, that was just his way of saying 'Let's see what I can make you do'."
England also makes other claims about the jail. "I heard [a US contractor] did things to boys in his cell... I was told there were hangings of people in the doorways of cells."






It will be remembered that the victims were not even accused of any crime. None were brought to trial. Almost of all of them were released because, despite the incessant torture, no evidence could be produced!



Rape torture as an American form of Christian moral teaching! HA, phooey!!!!!
 

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So American "morality" in the form of exterminating children is perfectly acceptable to you?

Why I am not surprised?

That's just one way of Western pot calling the kettle black syndrome. Another to follow ...


But legallized abortion was a democratically decided act. You don't get that kind of freedom in an Islam-o-fascist Nation.
 

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So American "morality" in the form of exterminating children is perfectly acceptable to you?

Why I am not surprised?

That's just one way of Western pot calling the kettle black syndrome. Another to follow ...
Did I say that it was? So what's so unsurprising then?
I said that muslims aren't any better than christians in that case, only worse:cool:
 

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So American "morality" in the form of exterminating children is perfectly acceptable to you?

Why I am not surprised?

That's just one way of Western pot calling the kettle black syndrome. Another to follow ...
And by the way, do you agree with the idea of spreading intentionally like cockroaches, to live those children in Allah's will? And then to kill each eventually