The Next Islamophobic Hate Thread

[gopher]

Tolerance is not the end-all of human behaviour.


But we "Christian" Westerners practice abortion and they don't. Genocide towards 40 million children is disregarded by us but they view it as tantamount, if not worse than, Nazism.

Should we allow them to invade us in order to stop it?

 

[gopher]

This is true, but I need to ask.....if the bigoted western media won't talk about it, how do you know about it?


Easy -- I just do my homework by reading Eastern websites, especially newspapers or those of commentators. Among them are Juan Cole, MEMRI (Saudi, conservative, + pro-West), and shianews.com.

At times I will look at Al Jazeera but it has an anti-Iran bias which is overlooked by the West. In fact, it was AJ that said Ahmadinejad called for Israel's extermination which he did not actually call for. Professor Juan Cole knows the Farsi language and translated the speech correctly to show that he did not actually make such an inflammatory call.

BBC is generally good but is also anti-Iran. The Guardian reports news from Iran a lot more objectively.

Most Eastern sites are generally anti-Zionist but it would not be entirely fair to say they are all anti-West. Nevertheless, the false impression persists among Westerners but that's because too many of us just don't trouble ourselves to check them out. Thus our prejudicial comments about them do not prove that they are prejudiced - on the contrary, they prove how ignorant and prejudiced we are.

 

[CDNBear]

With all of the hate filled Islamophobic threads we continue to have on this forum, let's anticipate what the next one will look like.

Use this thread to post more hate, more sarcasm, more stereotypes, and to show your ignorance of Islam.

C'on you paid Mossad and MEK agents -- earn your money and post more hatred here.

Better yet, why don't you start a thread and we can discuss the real Islam, fact and point. I agree in some part with you, that a lot of fears and hate, is born of ignorance or lack of knowledge, but if it ofends your sensiblities so, help promote change.

 

[tamarin]

It's time for a No Tolerance policy for Tolerance.
People need to make choices. The insistence that we shouldn't is killing this culture.

 

[CDNBear]

It's time for a No Tolerance policy for Tolerance.
People need to make choices. The insistence that we shouldn't is killing this culture.

I think I understand your point. To some extent I agree. I was not trying to get anyone to convert to Islam and in fact I believe that the Islamofascists need to be reigned in. Hatred clouds judgement and weakens your skills. Knowledge is strength and to know ones enemy is to respect him, not tolerate him. But in all things, you have the choice to hate or not hate, but to hate for the wrong reason is shear ignorance.

After 9/11, I wanted to carry Afghan children on a bayonet down Younge St. Did the act of 9/11 warrant the extermination of the religion and subsequently the muslim peoples? No.

In the end you can and should chose your own path, but that path should be cut with the sword of knowledge, not blind hate. He who under estimates his enemies, over estimates himself.

 

[I think not]

{though some do fight against Western imperialism in their particular nations

"I was ordered to fight all men until they say `There is no God but Allah' " - Prophet Muhammad 632AD

You mentioned Gopher that you do not know any Muslim that are oppressive towards women. Neither do I. But we don't live in the Middle East. We don't live in the Muslim enclaves of Europe. Keep that in mind when we are discussing these issues.

The quote above is taken very seriously by Muslim fundamentalists. Muslim Imperialism lasted for centuries. Keep that also in mind when you speak of Western Imperialism.

 

[EastSideScotian]

Interesting how he choose to ignore my post....yet he argues on with the same crap.

 

[Sassylassie]

Eleven wrote: Side note, Sassylassie, is that an incredibly large dog, or a very small woman feeding it in that avatar picture? Or is it simply an angle of the camera lens? Either way I offer caution for the woman that she may not end up being a part of the treat she so lovingly offers.

Pist Eleven that's me and the dog was a Great Dane/Lab cross he weighed 160 pounds, he isn't standing completely upright he was 5feet 2 inches tall. I lost him to cancer six years ago, he was my best buddy. His name was "Sparky".

I must compliment those who posted on this thread despite Gopher's best efforts to derail and insult those of us who just want to discuss Extreme Islam, to better understand it, the topic stayed polite and well informed thanks for that.

 

[elevennevele]

Pist Eleven that's me and the dog was a Great Dane/Lab cross he weighed 160 pounds, he isn't standing completely upright he was 5feet 2 inches tall. I lost him to cancer six years ago, he was my best buddy. His name was "Sparky".

You know, I almost thought to ask if you crossed a lab with a bear. Very cool the Dane size was dominant in the cross.

Yeah, that is the one downfall to Great Danes (pure bred Danes). They tend to have a short lifespan but everything I’ve heard of them suggests a good nature to the breed. Well, it looks like Sparky lived as a happy dog.

Well, this is Jacoato. He was left at the pound twice as a puppy by two different owners that either didn’t know what they were getting into, or couldn’t handle him. So he had some real bad abandonment issues until I worked with him. He also seems to be a dog that needed space which he now has. I believe he’s a Collie/Shepherd cross. Has a very gentle soul though nobody is suppose to know that (suppose to be a guard dog). Gets along well with the cat and the bird. The cat and him are best buds.

(sorry to all for the off topic)

(Thanks DurkaDurka. Looks like your advice worked on getting the image up)

 

[gopher]

Interesting how he choose to ignore my post....yet he argues on with the same crap.

What are you referring to. I agreed with your note re Western interference with the East. That is why I did not argue against it. My silence on the matter is my endorsement of your assessment.

By contrast, I previously posted a note re Western invasions of the East such as France invading Algeria, Morocco, and Tunisia; England's invasion of Iran and Iraq; Italy's invasion of Ethiopia, Libya, and Somaliland. In each instance those countries killed millions of people and stole treasures that were never returned. My question was when did these Eastern countries ever invade the West? Why haven't these Western countries compensated them and restored the stolen treasures many of which are priceless and remain in Western museums?


Answers??????

 

[gopher]

a lot of fears and hate, is born of ignorance or lack of knowledge


Precisely why I have posted those three sites, none of which represent any form of extremist viewpoint but discuss issues intelligently. The shianews.com as an example is not anti-Sunni. But it is anti-Wahhabi which is an extreme form of militant Sunnism and documents its viewpoints. On that basis I would say it is a good source for info on the conflicts between these two divergent denominations.

 

[gopher]

"that path should be cut with the sword of knowledge, not blind hate."


Beautiful!

 

[gopher]

"The quote above is taken very seriously by Muslim fundamentalists. Muslim Imperialism lasted for centuries. Keep that also in mind when you speak of Western Imperialism."


I have already addressed the fact that these fundamentalists represent only a small portion of a collective that number over one billion and that in recent decades it is the west that has invaded and killed multiples of millions with impunity

 

[gopher]

... and one last point about fighting -- the Koran says that there is to be no compulsion in religion. This is why the majority of Muslims want peace with the West. Extremists take too rigid a view of the Koran and that is why there are so many reform movements within that religion today.

 

[Explicit_insinuendo]

Hey! This is for you haters of Islam to post your hatred for that religion.

We patriotic Americans practice tolerance for all religions unlike you haters.

sorry to tell you this but you patriotic American don't know anything and i mean ZERO about us "haters"

 

[gopher]

"Gopher's best efforts to derail and insult those of us who just want to discuss Extreme Islam"


Insult? It was you who said I belong to an "elk" (hahaha!) and that I wear white robes. Yet, it was you who said As for hating Islam yes that is correct I hate the religion. And you also openly admitted to being a "cathophobe".

So who is insulting whom????

I remind you that this forum has a strict code of respecting others and to refrain from attacking anyone.

 

[gopher]

Hey! This is for you haters of Islam to post your hatred for that religion.

We patriotic Americans practice tolerance for all religions unlike you haters.

sorry to tell you this but you patriotic American don't know anything and i mean ZERO about us "haters"

Tell us about your hate for Islam so that we all might know ....

 

[CDNBear]

Hey Gopher, would you still quote me if I told you I love the Mossad. I wish every Special service agency was just like them. Flaunt international rules, shoot, poison or blow up bad guys, including Canadians selling plans for big guns to the enemy. What's not to love?

There is no sarcasm intended here, I mean it.

 

[gopher]

What's not to love ... about a self admitted terrorist group???

oh, oh .....

 

[CDNBear]

What's not to love ... about a self admitted terrorist group???

oh, oh .....

I fail to see your point, is your tolerance only for one side?

I'll still side with Isreal in the morning and always will. Not because I'm some fascist neo-con. But morethe fact that they will play war by the enemies rules. Bully for them.