The next dictator to be uprooted is Who?

[Andem]

I'm basically echoing Praxius' thoughts which I thumbed up. The first one, however, will never be overthrown. There is too much power with that one and the elite in the DPRK are just too powerful. Not to mention that virtually the entire population has no idea about the outside world, let alone anything as a God other than Kim Il-Sung, Kim Jong-Il's father.

[FONT=HY&#44204]U.S diplomatic Journal Foreign Policy said on Feb 11th that [/FONT][FONT=HY&#44204]the next dictators to be overthrown by the public following Mubarak are 5 persons-1st Northkorea Kim Jong il, 2th Libya Gaddafi, 3th Zimbabwe Mugabe, 4th Cuba Castro brothers, 5th Belarus Lukashenko. I'm interested about those consecutive movements for democracy like domino effect. isn't it intersiting? We live in current 21 century. so it's kind of difficult for someone to understand this dictatorship like past authority of the king. I hope above contries will be set free from the dictatorship and move into the progressive future. (By the way these 5 people might be afraid when seeing this news hahaha) [/FONT]

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1st Northkorea Kim Jong il [/FONT]
[FONT=HY&#44204]: [FONT=HY&#44204]He has ruled Northkorea for 63 years and made Northkorea one of the most terrible countries. he has controled Northkorean very harshly and imprisoned 150,000 people into the concentration camp.[/FONT][/FONT]

North Korea, in most respects, is still living like their [southern] neighbours and their cousins were 100 years ago. Whether it be absolute poverty because of Japanese rule or poverty because of an elitist and very militaristically-defensive leader. Communists got involved and prevented them from developing. Either way, if Western democracy and communism didn't get involved with Asian politics, both Koreas would still be in the same situation as they were before Japanese rule.

The only, albeit miniscule, chance of the North Korean state crumbling would be the death of Kim Jong-Il and some kind of leadership failure by one of his sons, maybe Kim-Jong-Chul or even the one busted travelling in Japan on a fake (Domican, I think) passport.

The elite of North Korea are both within and outside of North Korea, believe me. I've lived for 5 years 1 1/2 blocks away from the North Korean embassy in Germany and I see diplomats and other NK elites around here all the time; they drive around in bullet-proof S-Klasses (Believe me, they can't drive. I was almost hit by one of their chauffeurs the other day picking up groceries!). They kind of walk around with a style you might expect of secret service or high members of America's biggest lobbyists.

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3st Zimbabwe Mugabe[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=HY&#44204][FONT=HY&#44204]: [FONT=HY&#44204]Zimbabwe has recorded it's minus growth under his reign and made the worst economic result. he genocided 30,000 minority races.[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]

Well obviously English isn't your mother tongue, but I digress. Both white and black genocide has been happening in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe for years. Look on the bright side, it's not quite as bad as one might fathom; much worse has happened next door in South Africa yet what happened in Rhodesia was so much more violent than what happened in South Africa before media became a big thing there or anywhere. Like murders wouldn't happen anyways. Farms? Who needs farms?

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4st Cuba Castro Brothers[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=HY&#44204][FONT=HY&#44204][FONT=HY&#44204]: [FONT=HY&#44204]Castro brothers severly have monitored it's press and internet and limited people's freedom such as residence and movement.
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I have to admit, I've met hoards of Cubans abroad who seem much better educated and better off than most South Americans and every other 'Islander' I've ever met.

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5st Belarus Lukashenko[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=HY&#44204][FONT=HY&#44204][FONT=HY&#44204][FONT=HY&#44204]: H[FONT=HY&#44204]e is the last dictator of europe. If once belarus people recognize of the better economic conditions of neighbor countries like poland lithuania. Belarus will be[/FONT][FONT=HY&#44204] collapsed.[/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT]

You can't compare Belarus to Poland or Lithuania, both of which are members of the EU and receive funding from [Insert any Western European country name here].

 

[Avro]

American soldiers died in Afghanistan today. Was Barack Obama or George Bush responsible for their deaths?

How does that question have anything to do with what I said?

 

[ironsides]

[FONT=HY&#44204]Yet Cuba has a superior medical system compared to places such at the US.... and believe it or not, but many people in Cuba still love Castro..... chances of the people revolting against him are slim.[/FONT]



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"Yet Cuba has a superior medical system compared to places such at the US" In your dreams, they are not even close.

 

[gopher]

'' I feel about Obama as you feel about Bush.''

How many wars did Obama start compared to your hero Bush?

 

[BaalsTears]

'' I feel about Obama as you feel about Bush.''

How many wars did Obama start compared to your hero Bush?

Let's get this straight from the start. You have no insight into my views. Condemnation of Obama does not constitute support for Bush. But the treatment of Bush by the American left sets the precedent for the treatment of Obama.

Bush was a fool who destroyed an empire. Obama is busy destroying a country. My country.

Obama inherited a war in Afghanistan and promptly escalated it by doubling the number of troops, adopting a counter-insurgency strategy which will take years to play out, and paying for it with money borrowed from China. When Obama did that the war in Afghanistan became Obama's War.

People aren't dying today in Afghanistan because they were sent there by Bush. Those dying were sent there by the war criminal Obama.

Obama is the one who dramatically escalated the drone robot war in Pakistan without the support of American or international law. My friend. Are you defending Obama? Or will you join me in opposing Obama's War?

 

[gopher]

You are new to this forum and have missed my condemnation of Obama's needless prolonging of the wars on Iraq and Afghanistan. Furthermore, you likely missed the fact that I have EXPRESSLY called for an end to the income tax in order to strangle off all the funding for these damn wars. I have also called for the closing of Gitmo while right wingers have called for its continuation.

You are correct that Obama has escalated the war in Pakistan. But it was I who was the first person on this forum to condemn that.

Obama destroying the USA? Not to the extent as Bush. But I do agree he could be doing a lot more to reverse the mess created by his predecessor.

 

[ironsides]

'' I feel about Obama as you feel about Bush.''

How many wars did Obama start compared to your hero Bush?

None In all we were attacked first somewhere.

 

[Avro]

None In all we were attacked first somewhere.

Iraq attacked you?

Do tell.

Obama destroying the USA?

Greed is doing a fine job all on it's own.

Until that is regulated the US will continue to sink.

 

[BaalsTears]

You are new to this forum and have missed my condemnation of Obama's needless prolonging of the wars on Iraq and Afghanistan. Furthermore, you likely missed the fact that I have EXPRESSLY called for an end to the income tax in order to strangle off all the funding for these damn wars. I have also called for the closing of Gitmo while right wingers have called for its continuation.

You are correct that Obama has escalated the war in Pakistan. But it was I who was the first person on this forum to condemn that.

Obama destroying the USA? Not to the extent as Bush. But I do agree he could be doing a lot more to reverse the mess created by his predecessor.

Good post. Thank you.

Gitmo should be closed, and the detainees should be sent to Montreal as asylum seekers.

Bush destroyed the empire, but did not damage the country domestically the way Obama has. Obama must be defeated.

If not, there will be capital flight. In fact, it's already begun.

 

[petros]

GoldmanSachs and accomplice shiheads at S&P destroyed the US. Robbed everyone blind and not only got away with it stole trillions more.

 

[gopher]

''Iraq attacked you?
Do tell.''

As with Eagle's and Colpy's posts, we're going to have to wait a loooooooong time for that proof.

 

[ironsides]

Iraq attacked you?

Do tell.



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There I was riding down the main highway leading into Kuwait minding my business not bothering a sole. When all of a sudden a couple of AK-47's started tapping on the side of the vehicle, doing no harm they were just bouncing off. They did keep me awake though. I had my gunny quiet those fellows. Which he did quickly, the rest of that ride went smoothly didn't meet and more resistance till the next day. Point being that I didn't shoot at anyone first. We were just having a nice quiet drive into the city.

 

[Avro]

There I was riding down the main highway leading into Kuwait minding my business not bothering a sole. When all of a sudden a couple of AK-47's started tapping on the side of the vehicle, doing no harm they were just bouncing off. They did keep me awake though. I had my gunny quiet those fellows. Which he did quickly, the rest of that ride went smoothly didn't meet and more resistance till the next day. Point being that I didn't shoot at anyone first. We were just having a nice quiet drive into the city.

Be vague....it tells everything.

 

[gopher]

Told you not to expect any proof ...

 

[BaalsTears]

It wasn't obsession, it was an example, which is why I said "Such as....."

Maybe you should check your own obsession problems with constantly jumping in here just to defend your country and thinking everybody who doesn't use the US as a positive example is out to get you.

Trying to over-compensate for something?

I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.

 

[Blackie]

I don’t believe North Korea’s Kim Jong il will be uprooted. He will be in power till the day he dies. His chosen one is a son who sounds like he’s just as bad, or worse..

 

[ironsides]

Be vague....it tells everything.

JUBAIL, Saudi Arabia, March 16 — Two days before the official beginning of the allied ground attack on Iraqi forces, more than 3,000 United States marines secretly moved more than 10 miles into Kuwait to prepare for the land war, senior Marine officers say.
President Bush told President Saddam Hussein one day before the ground war officially began that Iraq must begin to withdraw its forces from Kuwait by noon, Eastern standard time, on Feb. 23 or face an allied ground assault. But by then, two task forces from the First Marine Division were already well inside Kuwait, capturing prisoners, ordering artillery barrages and air strikes on Iraqi defensive positions and plotting routes through minefields.
American military officials had acknowledged that the military had conducted raids across the border before the official start of the ground war, while withholding many of the details. But the Marine operation, disclosed by Marine officials at the dusty desert encampment for the First Division north of here, was much larger than the cross-border operations previously desribed by military officials.

AFTER THE WAR - AFTER THE WAR - Before Ground War Began, Marines Were Inside Kuwait - NYTimes.com

 

[damngrumpy]

Yes there are many dictators and some much worse than others. Kim in North Korea is far worse
than most if not all. Someone feeling lucky today? Most of these people already know where there
problem is coming from and those people are in jail. I noticed people finally understanding that
Chavez is an elected President and not a dictator. That is encouraging.
As for the Castro Brothers, you might be surprised how popular that government is over all. Yes
there are thousands who don't like him but the majority hate America more than Castro, The
United States and its two favorite allies, the Mob from Chicago and the Cuban League, a bunch of
former property owners and hucksters that operated like a little Kingdom where the average Cuban
was a surf.
I think it will be a long time yet before any of these folks go home to the mistaken belief they will get
their land back. Won't happen plain and simple. Cuba is a different place than the one these people
left and dictator or not they will defend their Island. As for the rest of them well they are quite a cast
of characters and I hope we will be rid of them along with a number of other leaders in the Muslim
World who have ruled with privilege for decades propped up by the western powers that need and
want all that oil. How is it that one group of despots is recognized as evil doer's and the other group
get to rule because of necessity? It is because the world is full of hypocrisy