The new world order: China is now Germany’s largest trading partner

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The Dumpster has a job to do: dismantle what is left of the American Empire. Even Bannon has stated that is their purpose. The American model is too costly and too far in dept to be useful to the ruling elite. They have chosen China as the model they will use for the NWO. Y'all better brush up on your Chinese.
Hey I see they are building that Dakota access pipeline , despite the best efforts of your tribe of eco warriors Cliffy . Aren't you proud of the mess they left behind for the polluters to clean up ?
 

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the dumpster has a job to do: Dismantle what is left of the american empire. Even bannon has stated that is their purpose. The american model is too costly and too far in dept to be useful to the ruling elite. They have chosen china as the model they will use for the nwo. Y'all better brush up on your chinese.

我每天用中文。

I already have a circle of White Chinese-speaking friends, so I'm far from the only Chinese-speaking White Canadian.
 

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我每天用中文。

I already have a circle of White Chinese-speaking friends, so I'm far from the only Chinese-speaking White Canadian.

Sounds like a useful skill, to me.

How's you "American" coming? Can you conjugate all of the verb forms of "shootin'", yet?
 

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Hey I see they are building that Dakota access pipeline , despite the best efforts of your tribe of eco warriors Cliffy . Aren't you proud of the mess they left behind for the polluters to clean up ?

Cliff is full of pipelines called triple bypasses from his deadbeat lifestyle.
 

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Germany has been quite good at maintaining industrial output and keeping people employed over that last few decades while similar industries in the USA and elsewhere have languished. I doubt that increased trade with China will have a major impact on German employment. In fact it will probably make Germany even wealthier.

There's a difference though. Europeans tend to combine free trade with the democratisation of businesses. In Sweden and Germany for example, half of the board of directors are elected by the workers with the chairman, who is always elected by the shareholders, holding the tiebreaking vote. While we should promote free trade for all businesses, I don't see why we couldn't unilaterally drop all tariffs for our worker cooperatives and so free them to import tariff-free.

We might still need to negotiate trade deals beyond that, but it would be a step forward.
 

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The Dumpster has a job to do: dismantle what is left of the American Empire. Even Bannon has stated that is their purpose. The American model is too costly and too far in dept to be useful to the ruling elite. They have chosen China as the model they will use for the NWO. Y'all better brush up on your Chinese.

The Illuminaughty lost the election ya dumb f-ck.
 

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Sounds like a useful skill, to me.

How's you "American" coming? Can you conjugate all of the verb forms of "shootin'", yet?

Why learn the language of someone who refuses to host me?

Since I hold a Canadian passport, I can freely visit the US so that gives me an incentive to learn English well. Under Trump though, most if the world's population will be cut off from the US market. Why bother learn English if Trump won't even allow you to enter the US?

Let's not think that language and trade aren't linked. A Chinese friend of mine now at least in his fifties learnt Esperanto decades ago before China really started to open up. The reason was that if he couldn't use English for trade anyway, why invest so much effort in learning such a difficult language? For pen friends, an easy language like Esperanto is all he needed. Esperanto quickly fell out of favour for English as soon as China opened up, in part because the US market was open too.

If the US closes its doors to the world while China opens its, then logically English loses its business value and Chinese increases its. The language of the world will always be the one of the most open market.
 
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Why learn the language of someone who refuses to host me?

Since I hold a Canadian passport, I can freely visit the US so that gives me an incentive to learn English well. Under Trump though, most if the world's populatio n will be cut off from the US market. Why bother learn English if Trump won't even allow you to enter the US?

Let's not think that language and trade aren't linked. A Chinese friend of mine now at least in his fifties learnt Esperanto decades ago before China really started to open up. The reason was that if he couldn't use English for trade anyway, why invest so much effort in learning such a difficult language? For pen friends, an easy language like Esperanto is all he needed. Esperanto quickly fell out of favour for English as soon as China opened up, in part because the US market was open too.

If the US closes its doors to the world while China opens its, then logically English loses its business value and Chinese increases its. The language of the world will always be the one of the most open market.
Hey dude, why should anybody host you at all?

Your the loser, not the host country, losers like you should be greatful for the opportunity to learn the greatest language, English.

Maybe you should go back to your sh^thole country eh
 

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Hey dude, why should anybody host you at all?

Your the loser, not the host country, losers like you should be greatful for the opportunity to learn the greatest language, English.

Maybe you should go back to your sh^thole country eh

I'm a Canadian national who traces his roots back to New France. If you think Canada is a ****hole country, feel free to leave it.
 

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Because there's great money in it. Don't you Trumpites know anything about business?

Not only money but friendship too. People do not cross borders for business only. Sometimes it's just to visit family and make new friends, and sometimes that leads to international marriages.

Poor Durry. Today, South African law allows Afrikaners to organise and self-srgregate if they want to. Perhaps we should allow municipalities to self-srgregate while having open borders for the rest of Canada. That way Durry would have somewhere to retreat to. Poor guy. Can't help but pity him.
 

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Scum cross borders into Western countries to get a free ride at the expense of the hard and smart workers.

Crossing in the winter at night and freezing off your fingers is just plain stupid.
 

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At a kid's birthday party and a skinhead with a goatee is throwing me shade when he hears me mocking Trump :lol:
 

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There's a difference though. Europeans tend to combine free trade with the democratisation of businesses. In Sweden and Germany for example, half of the board of directors are elected by the workers with the chairman, who is always elected by the shareholders, holding the tiebreaking vote. While we should promote free trade for all businesses, I don't see why we couldn't unilaterally drop all tariffs for our worker cooperatives and so free them to import tariff-free.

We might still need to negotiate trade deals beyond that, but it would be a step forward.

I don't have a problem with that. Sweden a a few of the other socialist democracies do the same thing. Keeping up the wages of the average worker has resulted in fewer economic fluctuations and a generally higher living standard that in other nations that are not so worker-friendly.

If the US closes its doors to the world while China opens its, then logically English loses its business value and Chinese increases its. The language of the world will always be the one of the most open market.

There is that, but modern English is also the language of culture and in nations like India with over 300 languages and dialects English serves as a unifying factor. I regularly communicate with people from other nations on a different site and the language used is English, primarily because everyone seems to know a little of it. A few years ago I helped a friend from Sweden by proofreading and correcting his thesis, which surprisingly, he had to write in English. He was accepted BTW.
 

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There's a difference though. Europeans tend to combine free trade with the democratisation of businesses. In Sweden and Germany for example, half of the board of directors are elected by the workers with the chairman, who is always elected by the shareholders, holding the tiebreaking vote. While we should promote free trade for all businesses, I don't see why we couldn't unilaterally drop all tariffs for our worker cooperatives and so free them to import tariff-free.

We might still need to negotiate trade deals beyond that, but it would be a step forward.

... and the British ones are all descended from Norman knights.

You should learn to hold your political thoughts to yourself at mixed events .

You should have thrown the monkey a banana.
 

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I don't have a problem with that. Sweden a a few of the other socialist democracies do the same thing. Keeping up the wages of the average worker has resulted in fewer economic fluctuations and a generally higher living standard that in other nations that are not so worker-friendly.



There is that, but modern English is also the language of culture and in nations like India with over 300 languages and dialects English serves as a unifying factor. I regularly communicate with people from other nations on a different site and the language used is English, primarily because everyone seems to know a little of it. A few years ago I helped a friend from Sweden by proofreading and correcting his thesis, which surprisingly, he had to write in English. He was accepted BTW.

I have a number of friends or family in Canada alone who speak French but not English or neither French nor English. I also have friends abroad who speak neither. I think the reason you get the impression everyone speaks English is because you yourself speak only English.

Non-English forums proliferate online. As for culture, the Chinese film, book, and music industries can easily compete against English cultural content both in quantity and quality. There is no need to know English to access much cultural content.

I have lived in central Quebec and can tell you that most Quebecer's couldn't speak English to save their lives. Though I work in the private sector, I have needed to interact with Federal officials both at work and on my personal time for various reasons. On too many iccasions, due to a French-speaking official needing to write in English for one reason or another, I have read too many documents written in such broken English that they were partly undecipherable! Shameful, really. And this is the truth however difficult it may be to deny.

In China too, I found that most Chinese, even among the educated classes, couldn't speak English. A knowledge of English was usually a specialization limited to English majors.

Most Chinese in Canada speak at least some form of broken English, but that is because they could simply not have immigrated otherwise.

Even in India, statistically only around 4% of the population knows English well.