Hi everyone. How much do you know about the Inuits and "the High Arctic relocation program" conducted by the Canadian government in 1953 and 1955? Why did the government decide to move these people? Did you learn about the Inuit relocation at school? Do Canadians talk about it?
The Inuit relocation conducted by the Canadian government
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The main reason for relocation was to increase the gene pool. Same as they did for many Indian villiages.
That is about the time they moved into house that turned it health hazards in a few years. Modern water systems that have more build advisories per year than weeks.
Tell me more from your POV. I don't see the Feds doing anything for the Indians that actually works out for all of them. This covers what I am aware of.
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/showthread.php?t=159477
Residents of Kashechewan First Nation evacuated for fear of flooding
Was that the only option floated. Did these make it into any classroom. (there are many more like these)
https://www.historymuseum.ca/blog/high-arctic-resettlement-experiment/
1953
In August 1953, the Canadian government initiated a relocation program that transferred Inuit from communities in Arctic Quebec and Baffin Island further north, to Resolute Bay on Cornwallis Island and Grise Fiord on Ellesmere Island. The government’s goals were twofold; to bolster Canadian sovereignty in the unoccupied High Arctic, and to improve the welfare of the Inuit involved by moving them from an area seen as overpopulated and over-hunted. The Inuit themselves were not consulted, and suffered considerably from extreme cold and winter darkness in an unfamiliar environment. In 1994, the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples investigated the relocation program, and a High Arctic Trust was created for the relocated Inuit and their descendants.
http://publications.gc.ca/site/eng/9.831406/publication.html
The high Arctic relocation : summary of supporting information.: Z1-1991/1-41-3-1E-PDF
"The present document contains a summary of the information that served as a basis for the Report of the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples on the relocation of Northern Quebec Inuit to the High Arctic in the 1950s. Inuit from the High Arctic community of Pond Inlet on north Baffin Island were also relocated to assist the northern Quebec Inuit to adjust to conditions in the High Arctic. This supporting summary is presented in four parts. Part 1 contains a summary of the recollections of the Inuit. Part 2 contains a summary of the recollections of former officials and police officers as well as others who had some contact with the relocation. Parts 3 and 4 summarize the extensive documentary material which touches on the relocation. Part 3 deals with the period up to and including the 1953 relocation. Part 4 describes events at the new communities after the initial relocation. Each part contains its own brief introduction as well as a table of contents to assist the reader"--General Introduction, p. 1.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/forced-relocation-high-arctic-inuit-1.4182600
A three-year-old Larry Audlaluk with his mother and father at their new home in what is now Grise Fiord, Nunavut. The forced relocation was very difficult for his family — his mother was constantly crying, he says, and his father died ten months after moving. (submitted by Larry Audlaluk)This story is part of a series from CBC North looking at Canada 150 through the eyes of northern families.
Larry Audlaluk was two years old when he and his family were uprooted from their home in Inukjuak, Que., and dropped off 2,000 kilometres away, on Ellesmere Island.
They are High Arctic exiles; part of a group of 87 Inuit who, in 1953 and 1955, were persuaded by the Canadian government to leave their homes with promises of better hunting and the option to return to Inukjuak in two years.
But promises were broken, and Inuit were forced to stay and form the communities of Grise Fiord and Resolute Bay.
Grise Fiord became Canada's northernmost community when a small group of Inuit were relocated there from northern Quebec, and left to fend for themselves, in the 1950s. (CBC)
Audlaluk says the government's relocation plan was billed as an opportunity for Inuit of northern Quebec to live more traditional lives in the High Arctic.
Kyak family from Pond Inlet on board the C.D. HOWE at Grise Fiord. Families from Pond Inlet were part of the relocation to help the families from northern Quebec adjust to life in the High Arctic. (Health Canada/Library and Archives Canada)
But there were underlying motivations, such as stopping Greenlandic hunters who were poaching polar bears, and exerting Canadian sovereignty.
"It was the time of the Cold War, and Americans were getting a little bit too close," says Audlaluk. "They wanted a civilian component up here."
Feeling trapped
"My parents, I know, felt trapped for many years," recalls Audlaluk.
"We were actually on what we called 'Prison Island,'" a place where he says, "you were left to your resources, alone, and [no one] worried about you running away because you're so far away."
When Audlaluk and his family stepped off the C.D. Howe Arctic patrol vessel and onto Ellesmere Island, they found themselves struggling to survive in a completely new environment.
Inuit houses in Resolute Bay, as they existed in 1956. Inuit were relocated by the Canadian government to exert their sovereignty over the High Arctic. Many people, including Audlaluk, feel as if they weren't given the proper support: 'you can't eat full recognition.' (Gar Lunney/National Film Board of Canada)"It was awful for them. They had to learn to get ready for the dark season and they had to learn to get ready for very short warm sunny days, with very few vegetation in the land," says Audlaluk.
Audlaluk's family couldn't find the food they were used to in northern Quebec: no cloudberries, no Canada geese and few Eider ducks.
"My family, the older generation, were used to having lots of different kinds of birds and then shore creatures like clams and oysters," says Audlaluk. "There were none here."
Nor could the families find any Arctic char, until 1961.
"When my mother [saw] Arctic char for the first time in nine years since Inukjuak, she cried," recounts Audlaluk.
A second group of families from Pond Inlet were relocated to Grise Fiord and Resolute Bay to help them adjust to the new environment.
(in part)
https://www.thestar.com/news/insigh...re_moved_2000_km_in_cold_war_manoeuvring.html
Pijamini, 56, is shaping a monument to Inuit people lured 2,000 kilometres from Inukjuak, in northern Quebec, and Pond Inlet, on the northeastern shore of Baffin Island, to make a Cold War stand in the polar desert of Ellesmere and Cornwallis Islands.
The Inuit say they were duped in the 1950s into settling the country's two most northern communities, Grise Fiord and Resolute, by a government desperate for "human flagpoles" in a vast wilderness coveted by the U.S. and Soviet Union.
Now, Arctic sovereignty is a hot issue again and southern politicians' new fervour for the defence of Canadian territory feels like fistfuls of salt rubbed into old wounds to Inuit who lost the best years of their lives holding the line in the godforsaken outposts.
John Amagoalik, now a grey-haired, 62-year-old Inuit leader often called the Father of Nunavut for his role in winning Inuit self-rule in the federal territory, was 5 years old when his family was moved to Resolute. He has lived a lifetime with betrayal.
"The United States still declares that the Northwest Passage is international waters, and the very reason why we were dumped on Cornwallis Island and Ellesmere was primarily to protect, to assert sovereignty over the Northwest Passage," he says. "Now we're being ignored. And we're hurt by this.
"We have always said, over all these years, if the government of Canada had been honest with us, and told us exactly why they wanted to carry out this project, and to offer the right kind of support to us to carry it out, we probably would have agreed. But they chose to lie, and that has caused all the problems."
History knows Amagoalik and the 91 other Inuit uprooted with him as "the High Arctic exiles." Half a century on, memories of what they suffered for Canada make them weep.
https://www.historymuseum.ca/blog/high-arctic-resettlement-experiment/
1953
In August 1953, the Canadian government initiated a relocation program that transferred Inuit from communities in Arctic Quebec and Baffin Island further north, to Resolute Bay on Cornwallis Island and Grise Fiord on Ellesmere Island. The government’s goals were twofold; to bolster Canadian sovereignty in the unoccupied High Arctic, and to improve the welfare of the Inuit involved by moving them from an area seen as overpopulated and over-hunted. The Inuit themselves were not consulted, and suffered considerably from extreme cold and winter darkness in an unfamiliar environment. In 1994, the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples investigated the relocation program, and a High Arctic Trust was created for the relocated Inuit and their descendants.
http://publications.gc.ca/site/eng/9.831406/publication.html
The high Arctic relocation : summary of supporting information.: Z1-1991/1-41-3-1E-PDF
"The present document contains a summary of the information that served as a basis for the Report of the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples on the relocation of Northern Quebec Inuit to the High Arctic in the 1950s. Inuit from the High Arctic community of Pond Inlet on north Baffin Island were also relocated to assist the northern Quebec Inuit to adjust to conditions in the High Arctic. This supporting summary is presented in four parts. Part 1 contains a summary of the recollections of the Inuit. Part 2 contains a summary of the recollections of former officials and police officers as well as others who had some contact with the relocation. Parts 3 and 4 summarize the extensive documentary material which touches on the relocation. Part 3 deals with the period up to and including the 1953 relocation. Part 4 describes events at the new communities after the initial relocation. Each part contains its own brief introduction as well as a table of contents to assist the reader"--General Introduction, p. 1.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/forced-relocation-high-arctic-inuit-1.4182600
A three-year-old Larry Audlaluk with his mother and father at their new home in what is now Grise Fiord, Nunavut. The forced relocation was very difficult for his family — his mother was constantly crying, he says, and his father died ten months after moving. (submitted by Larry Audlaluk)This story is part of a series from CBC North looking at Canada 150 through the eyes of northern families.
Larry Audlaluk was two years old when he and his family were uprooted from their home in Inukjuak, Que., and dropped off 2,000 kilometres away, on Ellesmere Island.
They are High Arctic exiles; part of a group of 87 Inuit who, in 1953 and 1955, were persuaded by the Canadian government to leave their homes with promises of better hunting and the option to return to Inukjuak in two years.
But promises were broken, and Inuit were forced to stay and form the communities of Grise Fiord and Resolute Bay.
Grise Fiord became Canada's northernmost community when a small group of Inuit were relocated there from northern Quebec, and left to fend for themselves, in the 1950s. (CBC)
Audlaluk says the government's relocation plan was billed as an opportunity for Inuit of northern Quebec to live more traditional lives in the High Arctic.
Kyak family from Pond Inlet on board the C.D. HOWE at Grise Fiord. Families from Pond Inlet were part of the relocation to help the families from northern Quebec adjust to life in the High Arctic. (Health Canada/Library and Archives Canada)
But there were underlying motivations, such as stopping Greenlandic hunters who were poaching polar bears, and exerting Canadian sovereignty.
"It was the time of the Cold War, and Americans were getting a little bit too close," says Audlaluk. "They wanted a civilian component up here."
Feeling trapped
"My parents, I know, felt trapped for many years," recalls Audlaluk.
"We were actually on what we called 'Prison Island,'" a place where he says, "you were left to your resources, alone, and [no one] worried about you running away because you're so far away."
When Audlaluk and his family stepped off the C.D. Howe Arctic patrol vessel and onto Ellesmere Island, they found themselves struggling to survive in a completely new environment.
Inuit houses in Resolute Bay, as they existed in 1956. Inuit were relocated by the Canadian government to exert their sovereignty over the High Arctic. Many people, including Audlaluk, feel as if they weren't given the proper support: 'you can't eat full recognition.' (Gar Lunney/National Film Board of Canada)"It was awful for them. They had to learn to get ready for the dark season and they had to learn to get ready for very short warm sunny days, with very few vegetation in the land," says Audlaluk.
Audlaluk's family couldn't find the food they were used to in northern Quebec: no cloudberries, no Canada geese and few Eider ducks.
"My family, the older generation, were used to having lots of different kinds of birds and then shore creatures like clams and oysters," says Audlaluk. "There were none here."
Nor could the families find any Arctic char, until 1961.
"When my mother [saw] Arctic char for the first time in nine years since Inukjuak, she cried," recounts Audlaluk.
A second group of families from Pond Inlet were relocated to Grise Fiord and Resolute Bay to help them adjust to the new environment.
(in part)
https://www.thestar.com/news/insigh...re_moved_2000_km_in_cold_war_manoeuvring.html
Pijamini, 56, is shaping a monument to Inuit people lured 2,000 kilometres from Inukjuak, in northern Quebec, and Pond Inlet, on the northeastern shore of Baffin Island, to make a Cold War stand in the polar desert of Ellesmere and Cornwallis Islands.
The Inuit say they were duped in the 1950s into settling the country's two most northern communities, Grise Fiord and Resolute, by a government desperate for "human flagpoles" in a vast wilderness coveted by the U.S. and Soviet Union.
Now, Arctic sovereignty is a hot issue again and southern politicians' new fervour for the defence of Canadian territory feels like fistfuls of salt rubbed into old wounds to Inuit who lost the best years of their lives holding the line in the godforsaken outposts.
John Amagoalik, now a grey-haired, 62-year-old Inuit leader often called the Father of Nunavut for his role in winning Inuit self-rule in the federal territory, was 5 years old when his family was moved to Resolute. He has lived a lifetime with betrayal.
"The United States still declares that the Northwest Passage is international waters, and the very reason why we were dumped on Cornwallis Island and Ellesmere was primarily to protect, to assert sovereignty over the Northwest Passage," he says. "Now we're being ignored. And we're hurt by this.
"We have always said, over all these years, if the government of Canada had been honest with us, and told us exactly why they wanted to carry out this project, and to offer the right kind of support to us to carry it out, we probably would have agreed. But they chose to lie, and that has caused all the problems."
History knows Amagoalik and the 91 other Inuit uprooted with him as "the High Arctic exiles." Half a century on, memories of what they suffered for Canada make them weep.
Thank you so muchWas that the only option floated. Did these make it into any classroom. (there are many more like these)
https://www.historymuseum.ca/blog/high-arctic-resettlement-experiment/
1953
In August 1953, the Canadian government initiated a relocation program that transferred Inuit from communities in Arctic Quebec and Baffin Island further north, to Resolute Bay on Cornwallis Island and Grise Fiord on Ellesmere Island. The government’s goals were twofold; to bolster Canadian sovereignty in the unoccupied High Arctic, and to improve the welfare of the Inuit involved by moving them from an area seen as overpopulated and over-hunted. The Inuit themselves were not consulted, and suffered considerably from extreme cold and winter darkness in an unfamiliar environment. In 1994, the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples investigated the relocation program, and a High Arctic Trust was created for the relocated Inuit and their descendants.
http://publications.gc.ca/site/eng/9.831406/publication.html
The high Arctic relocation : summary of supporting information.: Z1-1991/1-41-3-1E-PDF
"The present document contains a summary of the information that served as a basis for the Report of the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples on the relocation of Northern Quebec Inuit to the High Arctic in the 1950s. Inuit from the High Arctic community of Pond Inlet on north Baffin Island were also relocated to assist the northern Quebec Inuit to adjust to conditions in the High Arctic. This supporting summary is presented in four parts. Part 1 contains a summary of the recollections of the Inuit. Part 2 contains a summary of the recollections of former officials and police officers as well as others who had some contact with the relocation. Parts 3 and 4 summarize the extensive documentary material which touches on the relocation. Part 3 deals with the period up to and including the 1953 relocation. Part 4 describes events at the new communities after the initial relocation. Each part contains its own brief introduction as well as a table of contents to assist the reader"--General Introduction, p. 1.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/forced-relocation-high-arctic-inuit-1.4182600
A three-year-old Larry Audlaluk with his mother and father at their new home in what is now Grise Fiord, Nunavut. The forced relocation was very difficult for his family — his mother was constantly crying, he says, and his father died ten months after moving. (submitted by Larry Audlaluk)This story is part of a series from CBC North looking at Canada 150 through the eyes of northern families.
Larry Audlaluk was two years old when he and his family were uprooted from their home in Inukjuak, Que., and dropped off 2,000 kilometres away, on Ellesmere Island.
They are High Arctic exiles; part of a group of 87 Inuit who, in 1953 and 1955, were persuaded by the Canadian government to leave their homes with promises of better hunting and the option to return to Inukjuak in two years.
But promises were broken, and Inuit were forced to stay and form the communities of Grise Fiord and Resolute Bay.
Grise Fiord became Canada's northernmost community when a small group of Inuit were relocated there from northern Quebec, and left to fend for themselves, in the 1950s. (CBC)
Audlaluk says the government's relocation plan was billed as an opportunity for Inuit of northern Quebec to live more traditional lives in the High Arctic.
Kyak family from Pond Inlet on board the C.D. HOWE at Grise Fiord. Families from Pond Inlet were part of the relocation to help the families from northern Quebec adjust to life in the High Arctic. (Health Canada/Library and Archives Canada)
But there were underlying motivations, such as stopping Greenlandic hunters who were poaching polar bears, and exerting Canadian sovereignty.
"It was the time of the Cold War, and Americans were getting a little bit too close," says Audlaluk. "They wanted a civilian component up here."
Feeling trapped
"My parents, I know, felt trapped for many years," recalls Audlaluk.
"We were actually on what we called 'Prison Island,'" a place where he says, "you were left to your resources, alone, and [no one] worried about you running away because you're so far away."
When Audlaluk and his family stepped off the C.D. Howe Arctic patrol vessel and onto Ellesmere Island, they found themselves struggling to survive in a completely new environment.
Inuit houses in Resolute Bay, as they existed in 1956. Inuit were relocated by the Canadian government to exert their sovereignty over the High Arctic. Many people, including Audlaluk, feel as if they weren't given the proper support: 'you can't eat full recognition.' (Gar Lunney/National Film Board of Canada)"It was awful for them. They had to learn to get ready for the dark season and they had to learn to get ready for very short warm sunny days, with very few vegetation in the land," says Audlaluk.
Audlaluk's family couldn't find the food they were used to in northern Quebec: no cloudberries, no Canada geese and few Eider ducks.
"My family, the older generation, were used to having lots of different kinds of birds and then shore creatures like clams and oysters," says Audlaluk. "There were none here."
Nor could the families find any Arctic char, until 1961.
"When my mother [saw] Arctic char for the first time in nine years since Inukjuak, she cried," recounts Audlaluk.
A second group of families from Pond Inlet were relocated to Grise Fiord and Resolute Bay to help them adjust to the new environment.
(in part)
https://www.thestar.com/news/insigh...re_moved_2000_km_in_cold_war_manoeuvring.html
Pijamini, 56, is shaping a monument to Inuit people lured 2,000 kilometres from Inukjuak, in northern Quebec, and Pond Inlet, on the northeastern shore of Baffin Island, to make a Cold War stand in the polar desert of Ellesmere and Cornwallis Islands.
The Inuit say they were duped in the 1950s into settling the country's two most northern communities, Grise Fiord and Resolute, by a government desperate for "human flagpoles" in a vast wilderness coveted by the U.S. and Soviet Union.
Now, Arctic sovereignty is a hot issue again and southern politicians' new fervour for the defence of Canadian territory feels like fistfuls of salt rubbed into old wounds to Inuit who lost the best years of their lives holding the line in the godforsaken outposts.
John Amagoalik, now a grey-haired, 62-year-old Inuit leader often called the Father of Nunavut for his role in winning Inuit self-rule in the federal territory, was 5 years old when his family was moved to Resolute. He has lived a lifetime with betrayal.
"The United States still declares that the Northwest Passage is international waters, and the very reason why we were dumped on Cornwallis Island and Ellesmere was primarily to protect, to assert sovereignty over the Northwest Passage," he says. "Now we're being ignored. And we're hurt by this.
"We have always said, over all these years, if the government of Canada had been honest with us, and told us exactly why they wanted to carry out this project, and to offer the right kind of support to us to carry it out, we probably would have agreed. But they chose to lie, and that has caused all the problems."
History knows Amagoalik and the 91 other Inuit uprooted with him as "the High Arctic exiles." Half a century on, memories of what they suffered for Canada make them weep.
Might I suggest they put that in a youtube channel. I'll leave the page open until I watch them all, thanks.
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Cdn govt does not wish to admit that being native too often means being wards of govt and living where govt dictates in time of war!!!!!!!!!!
If you need govt charity then you go where they tell you to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Cold War with Soviet Russia was a deadly dangerous time and sadly, Innuit got squashed in the middle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TVO played has played a documentary on the forced Innuit move..............
TVO has also played a documentary telling the world how many Innuit miners died of cancer after digging up the uranium that fueled the Manhatten Project that produced the atomic bombs that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But our LIE-beral minded govt does not wish to talk about any of this because then the discussion would widen into WHY Cdns were so scared of Soviets in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals want ALL the history of that time period BURIED so modern Cdns will not know that Our Pet- the Soviet loving Pierre Trudeau was just as dedicated to stabbing Yankees and NATO in the back as his idiot Boy Justin is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pierre quietly led Cdn "peace delegates" to Moscow in the 1930`s- and there are old photos of him at various Soviet sponsored "peace rallies"- while at the same time that Stalin was systematically starving 8 million Ukrainians to death simply to teach them respect for their Soviet overlords!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After WW2 ended and Stalin showed his true colours- Pierre dropped any mention of ever being in Moscow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pierre Trudeau has damned himself by telling us that the war against Nazi Germany was nothing but "British Imperialism"!!!!!!!!!!
Pierre then went on to praise the "genius of Chinese Chairman Mao for rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And now Our idiot Boy Justin is following in his fathers foot steps and slagging Yankees and ignoring NATO commitments and even welcoming Isis fighters back to Canada in defiance of reason and logic!!!!!!!!!!!
But Our idiot Boy has miscalculated on China and foreign policy towards the suddenly angry Chinese - now that they have been exposed as cheats and spies working against the West and collaborating with Iranian Ayatollahs- has humiliated the idiot Boy and exposed his twisted political leanings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Our idiot Boy has told us "he likes the way the Chinese get things done"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By which he means HE WOULD LIKE TO EDIT THE HISTORY BOOKS AS THE COMMUNIST PARTY DOES- so both Our idiot Boy and his vile father Pierre and the Soviets as well, would look better in public opinion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are more than a few trolls around here, then tend to support the rich people no matter what they do.
Some of the people should take their questions to this place as the Govt is not going to admit to any wrong doing.
https://www.interpol.int/Crime-areas
Some of the people should take their questions to this place as the Govt is not going to admit to any wrong doing.
https://www.interpol.int/Crime-areas
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Spreading lies is not something the collective wants to give up let alone could even if the desire was there in the first place. What war, the Cold War netted the arms industry more than $5T. Some atomic power plants were built and NASA developed rocket engines and that was about it so add that money in as well and that is the scope of the money collected during 'the Cold War'.
Even in the lower Provinces the Residential Schools program was in full swing as well as 'lower class whites' were being sterilized so only the 'upper classes' would be supplying members to the gene pool. Incest in the Riyal families was seen as a good thing at the same time. When you take into account the meds that turned out to be dangerous even after the 'supposed trials' you have to be willing to look at a wider picture where a lot of people are being used as 'lab rats' in medical and psychological experiments. Both were in play in the topic this thread covers.
Indians are protected people who are denied knowledge about what rights they have and what rights they do not have. If the treatment of people in the lower parts of Canada or any part of the US is different then somebody is being abused intentionally. Today the abuse is still there but it has been shown that the end of it is not being allowed because there are 'studies' that are still going on. The Residential Schools were a study that involved separation of families and the long term effects on the personalities of the ones affected. Contrast that to the closeness of the RU Royals and Jewish Bankers. That is also who is the ones who ordered the studies and who received the data collected rather than the people collecting the data knew what the experiment was about.
They are still being 'squished' and the wars are long gone. It was an experiment in survival and nobody was supposed to survive. Rather than human explorers in the north the studies pointed to something else being needed and Mars Rovers enter the picture. That is the only way the north can be explored. The only way to remain alive there is to bring all the supplies you need with you so it is an impossible task when exploring far from the village is the main goal.
Do you think anybody took notes? 50 years before the Black Death there was 50% of all Doctors that were Jewish, 50 years after the plague in 1350AD the ration was over 90% and they also kept a section open that was only available to Jewish Doctors.
Studies are being done today that involves living in homes that are below the minimal standards and any ailments are being blamed on water when that is supposed to be at the highest standard due to the systems sold to them.
All 1st Nations people are under Treaty protection and when forced relocation is made that makes the land a Reserve and part of that includes the mineral rights. All the relocations made the Indians who were moved there as the owners rather than the Government that moved them there as being the owners of the land. When you live on an island and nobody dies you own the whole island and all the treasures in it.
How do their finances work in a place that has no malls? All the funds should just be banked as the ones who ordered the move would re responsible for all goods and services during the two years and beyond if the mission continued.
Perhaps the topic should be why you present such a stupid reason for the moves. You are a proud member of the same group that routinely used diseases to kill off the competition or the witnesses just so they get the mineral rights.
The 1867 referendum vote never took place. The Canadian Govt has been lying to all Canadians at least that long. To say they would be more honest with the Indians is why you can be called a liar and you cannot deny it. That you repeat the same lie after that really shows how low of a human you really are and you can be sure 'they' also takes notes about what people do when they receive rewards they have not really earned.
All abused people are more honest about the reality around them than anybody associated with Ottawa or the financial sector.
You cannot have a famine in grain country, you better look for disease being the killer when it takes out whole villages and no bodies in between. Be more than happy to make a thread about those days and how electrical devices suddenly showed up in the USSR where the production facilities are from the same places that claim they are at war with them for human rights abuses.
You start the thread since this is something you claim to know all about.
Be sure to expand on this part.
Be sure to expand on this part.
NATO owns all ISIS soldiers, called 'seasonal help' in North America. Cash and no benefits.
New thread smell all over the place on this 'topic'.
Link??
You spelled 'Jewish Party' wrong.
From what I have seen so far the part not mentioned is what was supposed to happen after the 2 years if they were not given the option of returning home.
The home they were taken from was a place where they knew every blade of grass and it is that kind of knowledge the Government was interested in getting for the companies that are in the diamond industry. If anybody had asked questions about the land around the 'home village' then the move was to have them look around om the remote locations. If they stayed after 2 years that should have made the land theirs, if they came back with news about there being no food but lots of 'gems' then rather than split with them they would be abandoned and the elements kill them so the land is open when it is time to mine the place and the companies can claim ownership and all the profits go to them as it is 'private land' and just the deposits are claimed like everyplace else it has happened.
The 2 years was to see the bad effects about losing long term family ties so the community is a band of strangers rather than extended family. That is useful if the next phase is something along the lines of a 'company town' where the workers are kept at the lowest standard possible so the 'owners' have as much money for the 'shareholders' as possible. They are the ones that put all the studies together and it is their recommendations that get implemented in the field. That imbalanced system is the only one they know and the only one they will allow. In remote communities the family unit just rebuilds itself, in a Company town a steady inflow of new workers would assure the community stayed like it was for the first 2 years. A time when they were kept at starvation levels so that is also as sign that it was an medical experiment rather than anything already floated as being the real factor. Their diets would have been better known that is known in Gaza today by the IDF. The data was probably use to set those levels, the collection of that data can probably be done without much difficulty as the Antarctic brings all it's supplies in and nobody there misses a meal.
Ownership of the land should go to the nearest relative even if the whole settlement dies. That make the land still private land or a Reserve with no people. Gems would be almost as good as food these days and it would certainly be bad karma for the ones that like to cause misery for anybody but themselves. The whole north is worth knowing what the rocks are and people will kill over them. In this day and age a claim can be filed from the location of the markers so do that step before telling outsiders about that part of the area. You can get rich at the same time they do and then the merchants find all sorts of ways to bring you the latest things they have for sale.
Churchill is the best depot for goods going farther north. Boats for a few months but I fail to see why ice on the Bay and used as 'pavement on land' could not be made to work sooner rather than later. Remote subs would be the best system as all systems are starting from scratch anyway. Using the boats to drop markers in the right locations would means the subs are engine and cargo only and the R&D done in the far north is about as secure as you can get. In the 50 years it takes before the Natives are effective spies they will running their own companies that services its villages and mining communities 24/7.
The UK is desperate for trading partners and subs without weapons that they can hack into would give them a real reason to split from the EU and end up with a product that rules the waves, from beneath. International trade using the currents without the wind is not impossible in this day and age.
If you can get the supplies needed to set up remote villages to explore the land for gemstones rather than food that might make what was done to you earlier come out with some sort of silver lining.
I have a few vids left to watch but the above part will not change, nor will the value being in the rocks change. The Merchants are getting the Indians to do the grunt work without any reward. The Far North and Far South should be run the same way, they aren't.
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The starving Muskox was probably the last of a herd that was moved there to see if they could survive. If they could they would have already been living there.
Perhaps the Government is trying to get the Indians to say they want no part of the far north rather than seeing the ground as having a lot of value to the rest of the world. Kuwait style rich. The Indians also need to be on-line in this day and age so their is another needless punishment. Once the translation app is created then all the closed caption is available without anything else being needed. Did I mention military grade hardware rather than plasma screen that dies when bumped. CRT with touchscreen added and an efficient way to create power for 'a camp'
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I just want to know the truth. I respect everyone's POV. What do you think about this?
vids 6-9 pretty much confirms that the experiment was about splitting families and because survival was common to both groups they helped each other rather than one side killing the others off. The split was to reduce the size of the community as it was doing to good and the people sent back 'home' would also have been studied to see what emotional trauma they experienced. That would have been the focus of the interviews rather than what happened to allow people to get closer in a hostile situation.
Today there is video conferencing so distances no longer mean long separations and news is the same day rather than a year later. Any drilling rig had broadband with a pretty small and mobile device. The home village is closer to 'goods' so a network linking them to there is going to be more use than the internet by itself. The reason for that level of communication is for mining that the people do on their own and when the best spots are found it can be leased out and the claim owner usually gets 20% and an Indian probably doesn't pay royalties. You might be able to establish new reserves in those locations before news about the goodies is made public.
The mining companies would just as soon cut the locals out. If they have leases on large blocks of wilderness then that us what they are doing.
The traditional sleigh could be made not metallic and with the right components it could become a very sensitive metal detector that records all the 'hits' down to a few inches and the person pulling the sleight just keeps going without stopping and at night when camped that data can be made into a map and perhaps sent back to home plate where it is added to all the data coming in from other prospectors. I would assume that a sleigh full of drones could also be used to get to some spot you can see and want a hit or two before you take the 3 days required to get there.
PetroCan should have some maps that should allow the public access to the top 100 ft it so. The data that won't be available is the rock layers below that as well as how deep all the lakes are. Knowing what the line is called means reading the tag on a tree so the odds are pretty good nobody has it yet.
The Mars Rovers would be just what Arctic Prospectors need, the locals would know where they should look first. The latest one would do it's best work in the summer when insects would kill a man and his horse in a single day.
That seems the be the best way to take advantage of the situation as it now stands. Getting better communication will solve the distance issue and a few icons clicked is all the skills you need once it is set up. Skype is as easy as it gets. Getting web pages translated would be something the adolescents would be able to solve faster than anybody.
Today there is video conferencing so distances no longer mean long separations and news is the same day rather than a year later. Any drilling rig had broadband with a pretty small and mobile device. The home village is closer to 'goods' so a network linking them to there is going to be more use than the internet by itself. The reason for that level of communication is for mining that the people do on their own and when the best spots are found it can be leased out and the claim owner usually gets 20% and an Indian probably doesn't pay royalties. You might be able to establish new reserves in those locations before news about the goodies is made public.
The mining companies would just as soon cut the locals out. If they have leases on large blocks of wilderness then that us what they are doing.
You are already the 'boots on the ground' but if all the remote villages had access to to university level geology sites they could identify the rocks they pick up as well as be able to tell how valuable it is on a global scale. If all the data from all the people wandering around the remotest places was pooled where they are the collective owners and the pooled resources can explore some spots in more detail than a single person can.
The traditional sleigh could be made not metallic and with the right components it could become a very sensitive metal detector that records all the 'hits' down to a few inches and the person pulling the sleight just keeps going without stopping and at night when camped that data can be made into a map and perhaps sent back to home plate where it is added to all the data coming in from other prospectors. I would assume that a sleigh full of drones could also be used to get to some spot you can see and want a hit or two before you take the 3 days required to get there.
PetroCan should have some maps that should allow the public access to the top 100 ft it so. The data that won't be available is the rock layers below that as well as how deep all the lakes are. Knowing what the line is called means reading the tag on a tree so the odds are pretty good nobody has it yet.
The Mars Rovers would be just what Arctic Prospectors need, the locals would know where they should look first. The latest one would do it's best work in the summer when insects would kill a man and his horse in a single day.
That seems the be the best way to take advantage of the situation as it now stands. Getting better communication will solve the distance issue and a few icons clicked is all the skills you need once it is set up. Skype is as easy as it gets. Getting web pages translated would be something the adolescents would be able to solve faster than anybody.