THE IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

#juan

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The impeachment of George W. Bush is becoming a distinct possibility. I used to think this kind of talk was hopeful thinking at best, but I think the U.S. as a country, is finally waking up. GW will do well to last another six months.
 

Ocean Breeze

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#juan said:
Ocean Breeze

The impeachment of George W. Bush is becoming a distinct possibility. I used to think this kind of talk was hopeful thinking at best, but I think the U.S. as a country, is finally waking up. GW will do well to last another six months.

you just made my good day better.. :wink: :)

hmm. wonder if it is too soon to start taking bets ... :wink: (for the duration remaining....... :idea:

(all I want is for america to get out of the major crimes mode and go back into misdemeanors. ;-) That , the collective we can handle.;-)
 

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#juan said:
Ocean Breeze

The impeachment of George W. Bush is becoming a distinct possibility. I used to think this kind of talk was hopeful thinking at best, but I think the U.S. as a country, is finally waking up. GW will do well to last another six months.

It is very possible after the 2006 Senate elections. If the trend continues (and I see no reason why it won't), there's a good chance for it.

However, they have to prove the intelligence was distorted.
 

Jay

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"However, they have to prove the intelligence was distorted."

After all the rhetoric this last week.....do you think they will be successful?
 

moghrabi

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Maybe the following article could prove that the intelligence was distorted.

How U.S. Fell Under the Spell of 'Curveball'

How U.S. Fell Under the Spell of 'Curveball'
The Iraqi informant's German handlers say they had told U.S. officials that his information was 'not proven,' and were shocked when President Bush and Colin L. Powell used it in key prewar speeches.
By Bob Drogin and John Goetz
Special to The Times

November 20, 2005

BERLIN — The German intelligence officials responsible for one of the most important informants on Saddam Hussein's suspected weapons of mass destruction say that the Bush administration and the CIA repeatedly exaggerated his claims during the run-up to the war in Iraq.

Five senior officials from Germany's Federal Intelligence Service, or BND, said in interviews with The Times that they warned U.S. intelligence authorities that the source, an Iraqi defector code-named Curveball, never claimed to produce germ weapons and never saw anyone else do so.

According to the Germans, President Bush mischaracterized Curveball's information when he warned before the war that Iraq had at least seven mobile factories brewing biological poisons. Then-Secretary of State Colin L. Powell also misstated Curveball's accounts in his prewar presentation to the United Nations on Feb. 5, 2003, the Germans said.

Curveball's German handlers for the last six years said his information was often vague, mostly secondhand and impossible to confirm.

"This was not substantial evidence," said a senior German intelligence official. "We made clear we could not verify the things he said."

The German authorities, speaking about the case for the first time, also said that their informant suffered from emotional and mental problems. "He is not a stable, psychologically stable guy," said a BND official who supervised the case. "He is not a completely normal person," agreed a BND analyst.

Curveball was the chief source of inaccurate prewar U.S. accusations that Baghdad had biological weapons, a commission appointed by Bush reported this year. The commission did not interview Curveball, who still insists his story was true, or the German officials who handled his case.

The German account emerges as the White House is lashing out at domestic critics, particularly Senate Democrats, over allegations the administration manipulated intelligence to go to war. Last week, Vice President Dick Cheney called such claims reprehensible and pernicious.

cont.... http://tinyurl.com/98xf5
 

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Re: RE: THE IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

Jay said:
"However, they have to prove the intelligence was distorted."

After all the rhetoric this last week.....do you think they will be successful?

Well I shoudn't say distorted intelligence, I should say, knowing the intelligence was wrong and they lied about it. That alone is impeachable, treasonous if you ask me.

Being impeached and being removed from office are too separate issues though. Remember Clinton?
 

Reverend Blair

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There's an ever-increasing chance, Jay. Libby might sing, there's a request for another Grand Jury and another Senate investigation. The Republicans are turning on themselves, and Bush's numbers are in the toilet...55% of Americans believe he purporsely mislead them to go to war in Iraq.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Re: RE: THE IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

I think not said:
Jay said:
"However, they have to prove the intelligence was distorted."

After all the rhetoric this last week.....do you think they will be successful?

Well I shoudn't say distorted intelligence, I should say, knowing the intelligence was wrong and they lied about it. That alone is impeachable, treasonous if you ask me.

Being impeached and being removed from office are too separate issues though. Remember Clinton?

ok.......so what does it take to be removed from office???
 

Jay

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Oh I remember....


I highly doubt anything is going to come of all this.
 

Ocean Breeze

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ok.......so what does it take to be removed from office???

In Bush's case, likely being perp-walked out of the White House in chains.

I believe that both houses have to vote to have you removed.

is impeachment a pre requisite to the "vote" by both houses?? and before it turns "physical"?? Or can he be voted out without impeachment??


( in other words can there be a shortcut?? :wink:
 

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Re: RE: THE IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

Ocean Breeze said:
I think not said:
Jay said:
"However, they have to prove the intelligence was distorted."

After all the rhetoric this last week.....do you think they will be successful?

Well I shoudn't say distorted intelligence, I should say, knowing the intelligence was wrong and they lied about it. That alone is impeachable, treasonous if you ask me.

Being impeached and being removed from office are too separate issues though. Remember Clinton?

ok.......so what does it take to be removed from office???

It's a simple majority vote in the Senate. Impeachment is a little bit more complicated.
 

Reverend Blair

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I think he has to be impeached, then a vote has to be held to have him removed. I'm trying to remember from explanations of why Clinton wasn't forced out of office (besides the fact that getting a blow job isn't a crime).

I guess I could look it up, but I'm too lazy.
 

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Reverend Blair said:
I think he has to be impeached, then a vote has to be held to have him removed. I'm trying to remember from explanations of why Clinton wasn't forced out of office (besides the fact that getting a blow job isn't a crime).

I guess I could look it up, but I'm too lazy.

Clinton was impeached because he lied under oath, not because of a blow job. The impeachment took place and it was mutually agreed by both parties that it wouldn't be good for the country to remove him from office so late in his 2nd term.
 

Ocean Breeze

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I think not said:
Ocean Breeze said:
I think not said:
Jay said:
"However, they have to prove the intelligence was distorted."

After all the rhetoric this last week.....do you think they will be successful?

Well I shoudn't say distorted intelligence, I should say, knowing the intelligence was wrong and they lied about it. That alone is impeachable, treasonous if you ask me.

Being impeached and being removed from office are too separate issues though. Remember Clinton?

ok.......so what does it take to be removed from office???

It's a simple majority vote in the Senate. Impeachment is a little bit more complicated.

thx........ What is the process to get the senate to a voting position on this?? So the impeachment process can be bipassed. ???

( when one is in a hurry :wink: :wink:
 

Jay

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:lol:

There does seem to be a sense of some urgency in your posts, Ocean. :)
 

Reverend Blair

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Clinton was impeached because he lied under oath, not because of a blow job.

Clinton was impeached because the Republicans spent eight years trying everything possible to discredit him. He never should have been asked about the blow job. That he was shows that the narrow-minded, puritanical witch hunt that the Republicans were partaking in went way too far.
 

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Re: RE: THE IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

Ocean Breeze said:
ok.......so what does it take to be removed from office???

It's a simple majority vote in the Senate. Impeachment is a little bit more complicated.[/quote]

thx........ What is the process to get the senate to a voting position on this?? So the impeachment process can be bipassed. ???

( when one is in a hurry :wink: :wink:[/quote]

1) The House of Representatives initiates the process by submitting evidence of impeachment. If passed by majority vote, it moves to the Senate.

2) The Senate must vote by 2/3 majority that the President is guilty.

3) If found guilty, then the Senate, by majority vote, to remove the Preseidnt from office.

4) When removed, if the crime is high enough, he can be indicted.

5) Say hello to the new President of the United States, Dick Cheney.
 

Jay

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"5) Say hello to the new President of the United States, Dick Cheney."


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