The Holy War between Tel Aviv and Muslims in Palestine

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Jewish religious scholars speak about holy war that it is prescribed in the Torah of Moses.
They say that all Palestinians in Gaza and Palestine should be killed including children and women... and they insist that God commanded this.

This is to expose their cheating and lies:

God - be glorified - hates the idolaters and gives His messengers hand and power to kill them and capture their land and their property; this is His plan in the Torah and in the Quran also.

But the point is that this condition has changed: the Amalekites or the ancient Palestinians were idolaters: worshiping the idols, while the Israelites in the past were devoted to God alone and did not worship the idols.
Now the situation has been reversed: the Palestinians now worship God alone and do not worship the idols or statues; they pray to God the Creator, and they believe in all God's prophets including Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed.
On the other hand, the Jews and Zionists in fact are the disbelievers and blasphemers: they disbelieve in Jesus and the Gospel and they disbelieve in Mohammed and the Quran.
God commanded that all people should convert and become Muslims following the last heavenly religion and the last heavenly revealed book: the Quran.
Therefore, the Zionists of Tel Aviv are the devils in fact. They are disbelievers: in the past, Jews worshiped the idols: the Baalim and Astaroth and the Star Sirius, ... they worshiped the calf statue in the time of Moses and the two calf statues made for them by Jeroboam of their northern kingdom... they rebelled even against their prophet Moses, and killed many prophets.
At present: God commanded in the Quran that whoever transgresses on Muslims, Muslims must return by transgressing on him like his transgression.
Now the Wicked Zionists of Tel Aviv find none of the governors of Muslims to stand against them. So they are encouraged to do more transgression and more wickedness... that is by utilizing the weapons given to them by the Western states like the USA and UK.
But they ignore the might of God and His revenge against the wrongdoer... they forget what God Almighty did to them in the past, and that His promise will be fulfilled by requiting them, and His revenge on them will be terrible more than what they did to the Palestinians and Muslims.

"The reason that God – be glorified – permitted them to fight the Canaanites, and to take their land in possession was because the Canaanites were polytheists (i.e. associaters or idolaters) worshiping the idols.
While as regards the people of Palestine nowadays: they are Muslims who worship God alone and do not worship idols.
Moreover, God ordered Jews and people of other religions to convert to the religion of Islam; because all the previous religions should be abandoned except the new religion which is the religion of the Islam; God – be glorified – said in the Quran 3: 85, which means:
(Anyone who seeks any religion, other than Islam [his righteous work] will not be accepted from him [because the past religions were altered],
and he will, in the Hereafter, be of those who lose [the prosperity of Paradise.]
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If Mohammed is truthful in his prophethood, then why did he use war and fighting in his mission?

https://www.quran-ayat.com/conflicts/index.htm
 
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Moreover, God ordered Jews and people of other religions to convert to the religion of Islam; because all the previous religions should be abandoned except the new religion which is the religion of the Islam
Did She (?) or He? Really? Or is your religion a “Johnny-Come-Lately” idea, & why would this God tell other people something different first (?) or does it just have a weird sense of humour?

Why did your God allow that same chunk of ground to be conquered more than twenty times (so far) by different groups that we’re aware of (???) & probably several other times in the twilight of history?
 

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God commanded in the Quran that whoever transgresses on Muslims, Muslims must return by transgressing on him like his transgression.
What if God told the same thing to each the Christians and the Jews first…that each of them where the chosen ones before he or she got around to thinking up Moslems to make it a ménage à trois in that same region?

How did the other peoples with their religions native to that same area get it so wrong? For fourteen hundred years, so far?
Now the Wicked Zionists of Tel Aviv find none of the governors of Muslims to stand against them.
Except yourself (?) and your select group that’s correct when everyone else is…not? Who are the governors of the areas in “green” just in that neighbourhood shown in that chunk of map below?
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How greedy are the Jews to want all that area in Blue on that map as a slice of the globe for themselves? Such Bastards!! Or is it that non-Muslim lands conquered by Muslims are Muslim property in perpetuity, and Jews as non-Muslims therefore have no right to own or control the land of Palestine? Something like that? Am I close? At least warm?
So they are encouraged to do more transgression and more wickedness... that is by utilizing the weapons given to them by the Western states like the USA and UK.
Wait, you’re not talking about religion & idolatry anymore are you, but real estate? Anyway, as opposed to the blessed weapons given to others by the Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, etc…?
But they ignore the might of God and His revenge against the wrongdoer...
Which ones? Just the Jews with their Jewiness (?) or the Christians too (?) or any others that occupied that real estate before or since Mohammed?

Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.

Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state. Are all of the above transgressors against your God, or just the ones from about 700AD to the current (except for Egypt & Jordan when they each respectively occupied/annexed Gaza & the West Bank ‘cuz not-Jews?)?
 

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Israel is divorced: not anymore the 'Chosen People of God'
This is in the Bible, Book of Jeremiah:
“6- And the Lord said to me in the days of King Josiah: Have you seen what rebellious Israel has done? She has gone of herself upon every high mountain and under every green tree and has played the harlot there.
7- And when she had done all these things, I said: Return to me. And she did not return. And her treacherous sister Juda saw.
8- That because the rebellious Israel had played the harlot, I had put her away and given her a bill of divorce: yet her treacherous sister Juda was not afraid, but went and played the harlot also herself.
9- And by the facility of her fornication she defiled the land and played the harlot with stone and with stocks.”

Israel Is Divorced
 

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What's the meaning of 'divorced' wife, and what's the relation with the monotheism and polytheism?
The adultery: the relation and sexual contact with a woman other than the wife... the betrayal.
The honesty and loyalty on the other hand of wife and husband.

When a wife commits adultery, she has been defiled and corrupted.
The husband will divorce her.

God - be glorified - in both the Torah or the Bible and the Quran gave the example of the idol worshiper is like adulterous wife: she betrayed her husband, like the idol worshiper: he betrays God his Lord by worshiping those other than Him.
And the chaste honest and loyal wife is like the believer: the monotheist who devotes himself to God alone and does not worship anyone else.
So this is the meaning of that God divorced Israel because she betrayed God and worshiped the idols and the statues of calf and the stars of the sky, in addition to worshiping their religious men: sharing and associating these with God the One the Almighty.

And this is the meaning of: "Israel has gone of herself upon every high mountain and under every green tree and has played the harlot there."
i.e. because Israel worshiped many idols and many gods she has became like the harlot: making sexual contact with many men.
For this reason, God divorced Israel, and is not anymore the 'Chosen People of God.'

About the monotheism in the Bible
 
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Monotheism in the Bible:
God – be glorified – said, in the Book of Leviticus, chapter 26: 1

"I am the Lord your God. You shall make for yourselves no idols[28], neither shall you raise up an engraved image [29] or a pillar[30] , neither shall you place any figured stone[31] in your land, to bow down to it: for I am the Lord your God."
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[28] The "idol": is a high round building ascribed to one of the alleged false gods or to one of the saints or imams,
like the "Maqam" of the present time: e.g. the Maqam of Khidhir or Maqam of Sadiq.
[29] The "engraved images": are the statues of created beings, like those erected by Christians: e.g. the statues of Mary and Jesus, the cross, and similar things.
[30] The "pillars": are some protuberant stones hung on the wall or erected over it; as a symbol for some alleged false gods or kings or others; e.g. A stone at Qadam Gah in Iran: which people visit and kiss.
[31] The "figured stones" or “remarkable stones”: There is a large number of such figured stones in the shrines of imams, sheikhs and saints. Nowadays, a large number of people kiss such stones and sanctify them.

https://www.quran-ayat.com/hour/an_hour_with_ghosts.htm#About_the_monotheism_in_the_Bible
 
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*Yawn* Okay sport, let's play spot the logic failure. How was anyone talking to Jeremiah in the days of King Josiah when King Josiah was long dead way before Jeremiah was a gleam in his daddy's eye?

Never mind the fact that the "treacherous" Judah's King Josiah instituted religious reforms that banned the worship of any god other than Yahweh.

And why would you quote a religious text that unequivocally states that Jesus is the Son of God, something muslims do NOT believe themselves. So is the Bible right or wrong about that?
 

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The consequences of the divorce of Israel by God:
The jealous husband kills the betraying wife, and God punished the Israelites with terrible punishment.

God set on them the king of Babylon who devastated them completely.
Before the king of Babylon, Assure also destroyed them,
Later on, the Roman general Titus destroyed the Israelites.
Finally their complete destruction will be by the hand of the Mahdi in the near future, God willing, for their transgression and brutality: killing the Palestinian Muslims and destroying their homes and their livelihood. In sha Allah. The most serious and dangerous thing is their transgression on the Aqsa Mosque in Al-Quds/Jerusalem.

A Warning to Jews of Perishing, If They Don't Believe in the Quran
 
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What if God told the same thing to each the Christians and the Jews first…that each of them where the chosen ones before he or she got around to thinking up Moslems to make it a ménage à trois in that same region?

How did the other peoples with their religions native to that same area get it so wrong? For fourteen hundred years, so far?

Except yourself (?) and your select group that’s correct when everyone else is…not? Who are the governors of the areas in “green” just in that neighbourhood shown in that chunk of map below?
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How greedy are the Jews to want all that area in Blue on that map as a slice of the globe for themselves? Such Bastards!! Or is it that non-Muslim lands conquered by Muslims are Muslim property in perpetuity, and Jews as non-Muslims therefore have no right to own or control the land of Palestine? Something like that? Am I close? At least warm?

Wait, you’re not talking about religion & idolatry anymore are you, but real estate? Anyway, as opposed to the blessed weapons given to others by the Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, etc…?

Which ones? Just the Jews with their Jewiness (?) or the Christians too (?) or any others that occupied that real estate before or since Mohammed?

Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.

Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.

Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state. Are all of the above transgressors against your God, or just the ones from about 700AD to the current (except for Egypt & Jordan when they each respectively occupied/annexed Gaza & the West Bank ‘cuz not-Jews?)?

You might have a point, Ron, if the region itself was not considered for several points in history as "Palestine".

The Palestinians are the inheritors of the Canaanite region as much as the Jews are, seeing as they were - at one point - the same people. Then some dude thought having a single God to worship above the others (of their still multiple God beliefs) would be the shitz. And then that narrowed down to one God worship (but still a Goddess there, and God had different names) until finally the Torah was written with a focus on one God and it was a male God.

Still the same people.

Then they all split and yada yada history happened more. But because the "One God Only" people were so wack in that idea, they got focused on as some sort of degenerates. And that's when shit really started to happen and split and now we have this BS of today.

Or will you suggest that the Natives of North America did not have a "Native State" because while they lived here, they didn't call their land a "State"?
 

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The consequences of the divorce of Israel by God:
The jealous husband kills the betraying wife, and God punished the Israelites with terrible punishment.

God set on them the king of Babylon who devastated them completely.
Before the king of Babylon, Assure also destroyed them,
Later on, the Roman general Titus destroyed the Israelites.
Finally their complete destruction will be by the hand of the Mahdi in the near future, God willing, for their transgression and brutality: killing the Palestinian Muslims and destroying their homes and their livelihood. In sha Allah. The most serious and dangerous thing is their transgression on the Aqsa Mosque in Al-Quds/Jerusalem.

A Warning to Jews of Perishing, If They Don't Believe in the Quran
The Quran confirms the Bible as the only truth.

Better luck next time. As for Jews? Let them be. Go after the Zionists
 

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You mean like you stupid fucking muslims do with that idiotic rock in Mecca? The islamic Blarney Stone. 😆
The Quran's teachings are strict regarding monotheism and devotion to God alone.
Therefore, to sanctify God's house --- it is a devotion to God alone,
while to sanctify the graves and tombs of prophets and saints --- it is a kind of idolatry.
You can kiss the door and walls of the House of God's worship ---- and it is a devotion to God alone.
One may put gold and silver on the walls and doors of God's House, but not on graves and tombs of people.

I went to visit the House of God at Mecca and did not worship the black stone in one of the corners of the Kaaba, but it was a mark for ending one circle around the Kaaba (in the pilgrimage and Umra or visiting the House of God.) The pilgrim goes around the Kaaba many times, glorifying and praising God alone.

It might be a landmark to Prophet Abraham for appointing to him the site of the House of God when he rebuilt it.
Adam built the house, and after Noah's deluge, it was destroyed. Abraham rebuilt it, and he included black stone in the building.
It is one of God's symbols of worship which indicates that it is ancient.

https://quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_96
 

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[The Muslims and Jews boasted to each other; the Jews said: The House of God at Jerusalem is more favorable than the Ka'aba at Mecca, and the Muslims said: It is the Ka'aba that is more favorable. Therefore, this aya was revealed:]

(3: 96. The first House [of God's worship] founded for people [for worship and pilgrimage] was that at Becca [: the old name of Mecca]; it was blessed [by God as an answer to Abraham's prayer], and [it includes] guidance to all nations.

3: 97. In it are [some] manifest signs [indicating its ancient time; among these is the present] Maqam of Abraham; anyone enters it [being fearful] will be in security [so that none may slay, wound or hurt him.]
Pilgrimage to the House [of God at Mecca] is an obligatory duty that people owe to God: of any [of them] can undertake the journey to it;
but anyone denies [his capability to go for pilgrimage]; surely God does not need [the worship in His House of] all nations.)


More explanation of these ayat in the following link:
https://quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_96