The Great New Depression - Made in USA
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They're included, they just do not have to abide by the agreement for many years. When that time comes around they will just say...
"We are still developing... we want another 10 years to go unmolested."
China will just smile and nod as the East always does to the West.
Pundits will always attack the US over China because China could care less what the West thinks of them. You can bash them all you want and they will just smile and nod... smile and nod.
Thats not fun.
alienofwar said:
They're included, they just do not have to abide by the agreement for many years. When that time comes around they will just say...
"We are still developing... we want another 10 years to go unmolested."
China will just smile and nod as the East always does to the West.
Pundits will always attack the US over China because China could care less what the West thinks of them. You can bash them all you want and they will just smile and nod... smile and nod.
Thats not fun.
India and China's fuel emissions output is close to the U.S total I would say. Although dont expect it to stay that way, at the rate those two countries are growing. I still think everyone should of came on board for this thing to work. Although I still think we have to slowly adjust ourselves off our fossil fuel addiction without disrutping our economies. Seriously though, I dont see China changing at all, at the rate they ar growing and pumping out those coal burners, I dont expect any change for that country. Even if they said they would join in 2012, I wouldn't trust them.
Anyways though, me not being the typical "knee jerk conservative", I tend to support any policy that would help support the enviroment...but in a responsible manner not based on world wide mass hysteria resulting from news reports of geological disasters. I personally don't care what Rush Limbaugh says, I am almost certain that our release of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere is having an impact...it doesn't take a chimpanzee to figure that out. I dont even listen to Rush Limbaugh..based on the fact he supports illegal immigration and doesn't believe that humans are contributing to global warming. He has a good point most of the times though.
Also, growing up with David Suzuki helped alot. Im actually going to see him in a lecture hes presenting at the California Academy of Sciences in San Francisco on April 27. I have never heard him speak in person and I believe it migh be my last chance to do so. And ughh, I dont look forward to bumping into all those Canadian liberals who populate San Francisco, Im going to be a needle in a haystack at that lecture, lol.
Anyways though, me not being the typical "knee jerk conservative", I tend to support any policy that would help support the enviroment...but in a responsible manner not based on world wide mass hysteria resulting from news reports of geological disasters. I personally don't care what Rush Limbaugh says, I am almost certain that our release of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere is having an impact...it doesn't take a chimpanzee to figure that out. I dont even listen to Rush Limbaugh..based on the fact he supports illegal immigration and doesn't believe that humans are contributing to global warming. He has a good point most of the times though.
Also, growing up with David Suzuki helped alot. Im actually going to see him in a lecture hes presenting at the California Academy of Sciences in San Francisco on April 27. I have never heard him speak in person and I believe it migh be my last chance to do so. And ughh, I dont look forward to bumping into all those Canadian liberals who populate San Francisco, Im going to be a needle in a haystack at that lecture, lol.
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When the Americans are behaving themselves, the US is a good country to be next to. When they go on one of their periodic rampages, one wants to move as far away as possible. Right now is one of the bad times and the future does not look good.
merryclaire said:
When the Americans are behaving themselves, the US is a good country to be next to. When they go on one of their periodic rampages, one wants to move as far away as possible. Right now is one of the bad times and the future does not look good.
Merry... you will be remembered for your weakness not your association to the US.
That makes you a target.
That makes you a target.
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What about France? Spain? Iran? Is that far enough?
Mooseskin Johnny said:
What about France? Spain? Iran? Is that far enough?
Good, bad, or indifferent, America is writing history. 500 years from now, young people will read about America and will know its victories and its failures. Canada will get some small paragraph in the middle of their history books and will be noted as a sovereign nation that bordered America.
When I think of Canada, I am reminded of Theodore Roosevelt…
"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
Citizenship in a Republic, Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910
When I think of Canada, I am reminded of Theodore Roosevelt…
"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
Citizenship in a Republic, Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910
eaglesmack there are plenty of financial reports and shows in the states saying this its not crap its simple economics you can't keep spending more than you take in sooner or later the bank calls in its loans and the us loans arew just about due
RE: The Great New Depress
Hitler wrote history too, Paco. Where is he now? Where is his vision of a world controlled by the Nazis?
Your country is failing. It is failing because the power of your leaders is built on lies and utter fallacy. People all around the world have had enough of your crap. That's why they keep electing socialists in South America, why there are over 1500 dead US soldiers in Iraq, and why half a million people took to the streets in Lebanon yesterday.
China and Japan have both recently balked at taking on more US debt, and economists in the EU are making decidedly unhappy sounds about the stability of your economy, Paco. How are you going to fund your armies when the credit gets cut off?
Hitler wrote history too, Paco. Where is he now? Where is his vision of a world controlled by the Nazis?
Your country is failing. It is failing because the power of your leaders is built on lies and utter fallacy. People all around the world have had enough of your crap. That's why they keep electing socialists in South America, why there are over 1500 dead US soldiers in Iraq, and why half a million people took to the streets in Lebanon yesterday.
China and Japan have both recently balked at taking on more US debt, and economists in the EU are making decidedly unhappy sounds about the stability of your economy, Paco. How are you going to fund your armies when the credit gets cut off?
Hey Rev... Our economy will not tank. People like you have been predicting the downfall of the USA for 60 years now.
Economies ebb and flow. There are just as many optomistic reports about the US Economy as opposed to the negative. You just choose to read what suits your obsessive hate for America.
Believe me... the US will go on and on. You will be on your death bed and the United States will still be plugging along and being the best country in the world.
I had no idea it sucked so bad to being our little neighbors to the north.
Once we square away Iraq... I say we thumb our noses at the world.
The next Kosovo, the next Somalia... Call someone else...
Maybe Canada... lol
Economies ebb and flow. There are just as many optomistic reports about the US Economy as opposed to the negative. You just choose to read what suits your obsessive hate for America.
Believe me... the US will go on and on. You will be on your death bed and the United States will still be plugging along and being the best country in the world.
I had no idea it sucked so bad to being our little neighbors to the north.
Once we square away Iraq... I say we thumb our noses at the world.
The next Kosovo, the next Somalia... Call someone else...
Maybe Canada... lol
Look at the facts and figures. Consider that all your current leader has done throughout his life is cause bankruptcies.
The only optimistic ones are coming from the friends of Bush.
That would require it to be the best country in the world. It isn't.
See, those are called facts, smackhead....Georgie's bankruptcies, economic reports from around the planet, basic economic facts like not being able to live on credit indefinitely, international quality of life ratings.
Our quality of life here is second to none. Geez... look at how we live!
We will go on... much to the chagrin of the rest of the world.
We are way to powerful and have so much buying power.
The USA will go on and on... and you can spew your biased self serving so called facts until the day you die and we will still be here.
We will go on... much to the chagrin of the rest of the world.
We are way to powerful and have so much buying power.
The USA will go on and on... and you can spew your biased self serving so called facts until the day you die and we will still be here.
Hey eagle how come your not debating your fellow citizens why don't you give alex jones or jack blood a call see what they have to say about your right and left parties you might learn something about your wonderful goverment
this is an interesting read. my husband and i were talking about this situation - the us with their economy, etc., this morning. he had met last night with a good friend who is an economist, and has quite a few american business partners. euro dollar seems to be the push as far as he knows, once china goes to the euro dollar, the american economy will hit a depression. figures it will happen in about a year or so.