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Huck

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And again toro, the IMF loans are important for all other countries than the USA. It is them that need to repay the loans in USD, so sell to the USA for dollars.

the USA dont need to stock USDs, so no matter how much they get from the IMF, it has no impact.
 

Huck

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You know ITN, it is me that has the patience of a freekin bull, you guys are jsut trying to pummel the model, but it aint happening...
 

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Huck said:
I think not said:
Toro, you have the patience of a freakin bull.

well, if he doesnt prove the model wrong, it stands...

He has the patience of a bull because you keep attacking him personally. If I were him I would of told you to shove your model long ago.
 

Huck

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I think not said:
Toro, you have the patience of a freakin bull.

I can;t belive you support a guy you dont know, that proves to know pratcially nothing in economics (read the entire threads, you will see) and just tryed bad theory after bad theory while is succesfully defend myself in this battle.

Even IF the model was not true, i am doing well in defending myself, yet you support toro, even if he brings erroneous stuff.

makes me realise there is no logic here, jsut blind support, for flame..
 

Huck

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ITN: Toro has been trying to break my credibility way before i begun taking him on. Now, i dop it because i recognise his incapacity in economics... (its ok to not know economics, but he brags that he does, yet he is wrong all the time)

toro started using phrases like "huck is smart but does not know,.. blablabla, i am a great economist, blablabal". recognise that toro ;)
 

Jay

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Bulls don't have patience, they charge at things and hurt people.


I'm going to my "my wife is pregnant" classes.
 

Huck

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Jay said:
Bulls don't have patience, they charge at things and hurt people.


I'm going to my "my wife is pregnant" classes.


toro has been hitting a lot of air with his charges, this is fact ;)
 

I think not

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Re: The Euro vs Dollar Conspiracy Theory: part II - "T

Huck said:
I think not said:
Toro, you have the patience of a freakin bull.

I can;t belive you support a guy you dont know, that proves to know pratcially nothing in economics (read the entire threads, you will see) and just tryed bad theory after bad theory while is succesfully defend myself in this battle.

Even IF the model was not true, i am doing well in defending myself, yet you support toro, even if he brings erroneous stuff.

makes me realise there is no logic here, jsut blind support, for flame..

Excuse me, but first of all how do you know I don't know Toro? I have seen him debate on other forums with people that actually have a grasp of economics instead of running to wikipedia to make a point. You have shown me no reason to believe you when you make comments like the US can print money out of thin air, that is the most ridiculous unfounded comment I have ever heard and I have a very small grasp of economics.
 

Toro

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I think not said:
Well I'll stay out of this, this has gone beyond stupid, we can't agree on simple economic terminology or concepts and we're going to solve the Euro vs Dollar conspiracy? I'll stick with my link.

I think this is pretty much dead. Its not even about terminology. You cannot possibly come up with a grand theory about the US waging war to maintain the hegemony of the US dollar if you don't know whether or not interest rates cause inflation to go up or down since you need to understand monetary policy, money creation, capital flows, central banking, composition of reserves, etc. You have to understand basic economics first.

Huck, you're on your own man. I'm checking out. (Or if I have any sense I will. We'll see.)

Thanks for creating this thread. It will be a good reference for the future whenever someone else wants to make the argument that the US invaded Iraq to maintain dollar hegemony.
 

Huck

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ITN: Verify this by yourself, it is true. As for wikipedia, its just facts, no quotes, nothing.

man, you a\e an idiot, i recognise this now.
 

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Huck said:
ITN: Verify this by yourself, it is true. As for wikipedia, its just facts, no quotes, nothing.

man, you a\e an idiot, i recognise this now.

f*ck you Huck
 

Huck

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Too bad, so you guys basically shut your ears to what i had to say. Instead of trying to understand it, you just bashed it without any impartiality.


I really hope there is someone out there who read the thread and will understand what i wrote and the model. I really hope someone will have learned some truth, and not get blind by this flaming that has given nothing provable to break the model. Htye just close up and ignore me, without even checking if what i say makes sense.


I hope someone out there has the maturity to at least analyse what i said...
 

Huck

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I think not said:
Huck said:
ITN: Verify this by yourself, it is true. As for wikipedia, its just facts, no quotes, nothing.

man, you a\e an idiot, i recognise this now.

f*ck you Huck

someone mature would have considered my position, not close your eyes and ears and sign out loud, the model is false, its false, its false...

too bad...
 

Jay

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Toro said:
Jay said:
I'm going to my "my wife is pregnant" classes.

Really? Is your wife pregnant?


They say May 1st is the date :) .....but don't go thinking it's going to make me grow up.
 

Jay

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Re: The Euro vs Dollar Conspiracy Theory: part II - "T

Toro said:
I think this is pretty much dead. Its not even about terminology. You cannot possibly come up with a grand theory about the US waging war to maintain the hegemony of the US dollar if you don't know whether or not interest rates cause inflation to go up or down since you need to understand monetary policy, money creation, capital flows, central banking, composition of reserves, etc. You have to understand basic economics first.

My wife is making a sandwich first....


I have to agree with Toro here. These are huge allegation against the States that I can't see as being true under the guise of economics the way it was taught to me. My economics teacher would have had to be in on it too.
 

Huck

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Here is a question for the others:

Does anyone believe in the model i created, or at least, thinks it could be plausible? or has something valuable to add?

please speak up