Re: The Euro vs Dollar Conspiracy Theory: part II - "T
Ohh, sorry then, my mistake. i apologize
Ohh, sorry then, my mistake. i apologize
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Yes, wiping out "slave labor" and a customer base with one big bang has been proven to be highly efficient. :roll:
darkbeaver said:
Yes, wiping out "slave labor" and a customer base with one big bang has been proven to be highly efficient. :roll:
Re: The Euro vs Dollar Conspiracy Theory: part II - "T
I stand corrected then Huck, I apologize.
Huck said:ITN, please, i believe you are a sensed and rational guy. You quoted me incompletely and out of context. here is the complete sentence i said:
what i meant by this is that americans are not used to converting money, this is why toro may not be used to these mechanics. Canadians are used to conversion, because we do it so often.
I will never bash americans, nor anyone without a valid reason.
I apologize if it seemed rude and i was misunderstood... English is not my first language, so i may formulate wierd phrases sometimes. but i meant no wrong...
I stand corrected then Huck, I apologize.
Re: The Euro vs Dollar Conspiracy Theory: part II - "T
OK
So, i guess we can now draw a firm and clear conclusion from this exercise. First, a few quotes to remind us how important what we did is.
"Those who expect to be ignorant and free
expect what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson
"What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for their children - not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women - not merely peace in our time but peace for all time." - John F. Kennedy
"I have two great enemies, the southern army in front of me and the financial institutions in the rear. Of the two, the one in the rear is the greatest enemy. The money power preys upon the nation in times of peace, and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes." - Abraham Lincoln
"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials (top nazi officer)
"The perfect slave is the slave who thinks that he is free." - anonymous
From the model we have created, it is now clear that the petroeuro myth is true. It also means that the USA DO have a motive to perform unholy actions to the world for their survival. I will not imply anything about the current wars, but we must admit that the pieces of the puzzle do fall nicely into place.
Our founding fathers gave us education, freedom, wealth, health and a nation. They gave us a great gift and wanted us to use it. Now, we are put to shame with all the ignorance we harbor. It is our duty to seek the truth whereever it is. We MUST not believe blindly what is told to us, but seek the truth by ourselves. If we use these gifs we were given, we and our sons will truly be free…
I know this is a little corny, but nevertheless, it is true…
I hope this thread will remain as a refence for the future discussions on the matter, that are sure to be back… I also hope you enjoyed reading it.
Je vous remercie de m'avoir écoutés et je vous tire ma révérence.. au revoir….
OK
So, i guess we can now draw a firm and clear conclusion from this exercise. First, a few quotes to remind us how important what we did is.
"Those who expect to be ignorant and free
expect what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson
"What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for their children - not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women - not merely peace in our time but peace for all time." - John F. Kennedy
"I have two great enemies, the southern army in front of me and the financial institutions in the rear. Of the two, the one in the rear is the greatest enemy. The money power preys upon the nation in times of peace, and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes." - Abraham Lincoln
"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials (top nazi officer)
"The perfect slave is the slave who thinks that he is free." - anonymous
From the model we have created, it is now clear that the petroeuro myth is true. It also means that the USA DO have a motive to perform unholy actions to the world for their survival. I will not imply anything about the current wars, but we must admit that the pieces of the puzzle do fall nicely into place.
Our founding fathers gave us education, freedom, wealth, health and a nation. They gave us a great gift and wanted us to use it. Now, we are put to shame with all the ignorance we harbor. It is our duty to seek the truth whereever it is. We MUST not believe blindly what is told to us, but seek the truth by ourselves. If we use these gifs we were given, we and our sons will truly be free…
I know this is a little corny, but nevertheless, it is true…
I hope this thread will remain as a refence for the future discussions on the matter, that are sure to be back… I also hope you enjoyed reading it.
Je vous remercie de m'avoir écoutés et je vous tire ma révérence.. au revoir….
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To believe that your mission on earth is the spread of democracy and liberty requires a level of stupidity common only in your own country.
When your country dropped those bombs on Japan it was mass murder (state policy) you could have just as easily blown the top off of mount Fuji, they would have surrendered. You maintain 10,000 plus warheads and want me to worry about 1 that Iran may build, you have the worlds largest military machine by a long margine, and have been in a state of constant war for in excess of sixty years . How could anyone find fault with my thinking that your country will continue to extend state policy through warfare.I think not said:
To believe that your mission on earth is the spread of democracy and liberty requires a level of stupidity common only in your own country.
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Bombing Japan for months, one nuclear bomb and they still didn't surrender, it took bomb #2 to get them to surrender. Do you ever pick up a history book? Just curious.
Your thinking is at fault because you obviously never read anything about history.
Our mission on earth is to protect American interests and to eradicate communism, much to your chagrin.
darkbeaver said:
Bombing Japan for months, one nuclear bomb and they still didn't surrender, it took bomb #2 to get them to surrender. Do you ever pick up a history book? Just curious.
darkbeaver said:
Your thinking is at fault because you obviously never read anything about history.
darkbeaver said:
Our mission on earth is to protect American interests and to eradicate communism, much to your chagrin.
Re: The Euro vs Dollar Conspiracy Theory: part II - "T
ITN: In fact,if we eliminate te aggresiveness, darkbeaver is not really wrong.
The USA seem to have been using the military for state policy. But, you are right too, the USA are fighting for their very own interrest, so it makes sense from your point of view.
As for fighting to eliminate communism, what you say is a little ironic, becasue:
we proved the petroeuro theory to be true. Because of this, what happens is that the US economy is already starting to slow down. But, the chinese WANT you to keep buying their stuff, so they are currently buying massive amounts of US bonds (investing in the USA). With this money, your economy stabilizes. And, you buy more chinese stuff; futher developing china and giving them the money back so they can buy more of the USA. Little by little the communist chinese government is using your own system to buy you out. When the chinese are ready, they will let go on the rope and your economy will crush you by the weight of the debt and trade deficit... (sorry if it sounds scary, but it is actually happening)
Greed has crushed freedom, and becasue of this greed, communism will own the USA and the rest of the world in a few years. If nothing changes, our children will live under the communist rule...
ITN: In fact,if we eliminate te aggresiveness, darkbeaver is not really wrong.
The USA seem to have been using the military for state policy. But, you are right too, the USA are fighting for their very own interrest, so it makes sense from your point of view.
As for fighting to eliminate communism, what you say is a little ironic, becasue:
we proved the petroeuro theory to be true. Because of this, what happens is that the US economy is already starting to slow down. But, the chinese WANT you to keep buying their stuff, so they are currently buying massive amounts of US bonds (investing in the USA). With this money, your economy stabilizes. And, you buy more chinese stuff; futher developing china and giving them the money back so they can buy more of the USA. Little by little the communist chinese government is using your own system to buy you out. When the chinese are ready, they will let go on the rope and your economy will crush you by the weight of the debt and trade deficit... (sorry if it sounds scary, but it is actually happening)
Greed has crushed freedom, and becasue of this greed, communism will own the USA and the rest of the world in a few years. If nothing changes, our children will live under the communist rule...
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I know this will be difficult to accept, and me i stand imprtial when saying this. But, by looking at the facts and world affairs it seems that the real truth is:
- The USA are the evil empire, that will crush anything that stands in the way of its "spiral of death" system. IT also brainwashed its very own people to believe it is an empire for good.
- The Iraninans, iraqians and venezuelans, as disruptors of the evil empire are actually the true saviors of freedom.
- the rest of the world are farmers, producing goods for the evil empire under its reckless dictatorship.
- China is the one that will benefit the spoils. Extreme farmer having benefited more than the others due to cheap prices and collosal manpower. The rising chinese empire created by the very evil empire it will soon seek to crush and replace.
Again, i am just saying this by observation for philosophical purposes, i do not support iran or any other axis of evil country.
I know this will be difficult to accept, and me i stand imprtial when saying this. But, by looking at the facts and world affairs it seems that the real truth is:
- The USA are the evil empire, that will crush anything that stands in the way of its "spiral of death" system. IT also brainwashed its very own people to believe it is an empire for good.
- The Iraninans, iraqians and venezuelans, as disruptors of the evil empire are actually the true saviors of freedom.
- the rest of the world are farmers, producing goods for the evil empire under its reckless dictatorship.
- China is the one that will benefit the spoils. Extreme farmer having benefited more than the others due to cheap prices and collosal manpower. The rising chinese empire created by the very evil empire it will soon seek to crush and replace.
Again, i am just saying this by observation for philosophical purposes, i do not support iran or any other axis of evil country.
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Huck, sorry but you have yet to prove anything in regards to the PetroEuro, why don't we just hang out and watch what Iran does, what a better upcoming example?
As for this Chinese theory, I have heard it all before, 20 years ago, only then the country in question was Japan. That Japan would overtake and subdue the American economy. Being that economics is a social science and is swayed by reactions, no one can know what will happen.
If darkbeaver would ever make a point, any point, other than spewing venom and backup his claims with historical references, I might entertain the idea of paying close attention to what he has to say.
This whole thing is a war on ideas, those on the fringe left, favor socialism and see the US as an evil force hindering "progress". So, where do we go from here?
Huck, sorry but you have yet to prove anything in regards to the PetroEuro, why don't we just hang out and watch what Iran does, what a better upcoming example?
As for this Chinese theory, I have heard it all before, 20 years ago, only then the country in question was Japan. That Japan would overtake and subdue the American economy. Being that economics is a social science and is swayed by reactions, no one can know what will happen.
If darkbeaver would ever make a point, any point, other than spewing venom and backup his claims with historical references, I might entertain the idea of paying close attention to what he has to say.
This whole thing is a war on ideas, those on the fringe left, favor socialism and see the US as an evil force hindering "progress". So, where do we go from here?
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ITN: wasn't the proof i made for the petroeuro strong enough? Is it so hard to accept?
ITN: wasn't the proof i made for the petroeuro strong enough? Is it so hard to accept?
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Gee wiz, it only took a few pages of thread to come to this conclusion, congratulations.
Huck said:
Gee wiz, it only took a few pages of thread to come to this conclusion, congratulations.
Re: The Euro vs Dollar Conspiracy Theory: part II - "T
Off topic, but interresting:
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70179-0.html?tw=wn_index_2
Off topic, but interresting:
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70179-0.html?tw=wn_index_2
Re: The Euro vs Dollar Conspiracy Theory: part II - "T
I dunno Huck, are you an authority on economics? I have shown you an article from a well respected European economist that the Petroeuro would have the EU gain about 0.5% of GDP and the US lose an equal amount. And you quote me wikipedia. Yes, I would say it's very hard to accept.
Huck said:
I dunno Huck, are you an authority on economics? I have shown you an article from a well respected European economist that the Petroeuro would have the EU gain about 0.5% of GDP and the US lose an equal amount. And you quote me wikipedia. Yes, I would say it's very hard to accept.
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I can not force you to believe anything ITN. But, if you are smart, you will answer this question yourself by analysing the proof i made, understand it and see if it makes sense.
I think not said:
I can not force you to believe anything ITN. But, if you are smart, you will answer this question yourself by analysing the proof i made, understand it and see if it makes sense.
Re: The Euro vs Dollar Conspiracy Theory: part II - "T
I don't pretend to profess in economics Huck, nor do I think I can compound and expedite this knowledge through a forum thread and claim proficiency in economics to make up my mind. I would rather go along with what several economists have published from economic institutions rather than what anyone on wikipedia can edit and make it fact. Since economics is a theory, it is very difficult to prove anything.
Like I said earlier, Iran is about to switch, let's see if they get invaded.
I don't pretend to profess in economics Huck, nor do I think I can compound and expedite this knowledge through a forum thread and claim proficiency in economics to make up my mind. I would rather go along with what several economists have published from economic institutions rather than what anyone on wikipedia can edit and make it fact. Since economics is a theory, it is very difficult to prove anything.
Like I said earlier, Iran is about to switch, let's see if they get invaded.
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relying on others for opinion is the best way to be brainwashed. I find it funny that i made comple and detailed proof of every step of the thought process, while you trust phony opinions on the web that dont state any procedure.
And, i dont quote wikipedia, i use known historical facts to support my thought process. As long as the articles you read on the web dont provide this, they are far less trustable, no matter the title of the author.
relying on others for opinion is the best way to be brainwashed. I find it funny that i made comple and detailed proof of every step of the thought process, while you trust phony opinions on the web that dont state any procedure.
And, i dont quote wikipedia, i use known historical facts to support my thought process. As long as the articles you read on the web dont provide this, they are far less trustable, no matter the title of the author.
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Yup, and it sure looks like its gearing for that... And it's already one out of two with iraq.
I think not said:
Yup, and it sure looks like its gearing for that... And it's already one out of two with iraq.
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As for all the facts i brought from wikipedia, i challenge everyone to bring us contradictions form either britannica or encarta!
As for all the facts i brought from wikipedia, i challenge everyone to bring us contradictions form either britannica or encarta!