The Elimination of Racial Discrimination

cortez

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does not preclude
but DO such programs actually EXIST
i dont know
i havent seen them
give me an example
 

FiveParadox

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That particular provision of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, cortez, is the part of the legislation that protects the rights of organizations such as Immigrant Women Services of Canada, and various gay rights' advocate groups, to exist in Canada.
 

I think not

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Re: RE: The Elimination of Racial Discrimination

Jay said:
(2) Subsection (1) does not preclude any law, program or activity that has as its object the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.

That's not Affirmative Action mate. AA is the requirement to hire a certain percentage of the workforce from minority groups where an imbalance exists.

In other words you hire someone based on the color of their skin, not their abilities.
 

Machjo

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I'm a white man myself, but once I'd gotten married to an Ethiopian of Muslim from a Muslim family, boy did I learn abour prejudice. Many in Canada's immigration department are white biggots (my ex- had to get into a good fight with them, but she did win when, with evidence of their discriminaiton, she threatenned to sue. Just my family in law alone had gone through repeated incidents of getting stopped by the police for questioning, refused job offers or apartments to rent yet white friends (including myself on occasion) could still get them (so it would seem that the job or apartment would have been "oops, sorry, too late, just taken this morning" to, an hour later, "oh sure we have a job (or apartment) available. For when do you want it?"

That's not to say blacks aren't racist though. African Americans in Canada hated me, some the Ethiopian community threatenned my ex- when they realised we were about to get married (funny that, they all had no problem with me until they learnt we were about to get married). And she was afraid to let Muslims know that she did not profess the religion herself!

So yes, there is plenty of racism in Canada, at all levels, white black, Muslim, government officials, private sector, you name it.
 

Jay

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Re: RE: The Elimination of Racial Discrimination

I think not said:
Jay said:
(2) Subsection (1) does not preclude any law, program or activity that has as its object the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.

That's not Affirmative Action mate. AA is the requirement to hire a certain percentage of the workforce from minority groups where an imbalance exists.

In other words you hire someone based on the color of their skin, not their abilities.

http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/asp/gateway.asp?hr=/en/lp/lo/lswe/we/information/history.shtml&hs=wzp
 

cortez

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Re: RE: The Elimination of Racial Discrimination

FiveParadox said:
That particular provision of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, cortez, is the part of the legislation that protects the rights of organizations such as Immigrant Women Services of Canada, and various gay rights' advocate groups, to exist in Canada.

yes
ok
thats fantastic i agree with that 100%
but i dont believe that that is what is generaly known as affirmative action- to me that term refers to having some sort of quota hiring system- which is a slightly different concept than preventing people from from being discriminated against

paradox
are you studing law
your posts suggest you are a law student who one day might want to be a member of parliament
or are you collecting some kind of profile info for some political party.....