The China Question

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Tamarin

My style is focus on the big picture. Get past the mischief and nuisance of incidentals. China is trouble for the West. It's nice that its people are making all these neat, cheap little things for us but the real story is of a country exploiting every opportunity it has to acquire capital and power. I know what the American experience with power is like. And it's often not pretty. But what will the Chinese do with it?
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After reading few posts you have written aout China all I can say is that I cant help you .....I'm not professional if you know what what I mean.
Regards,China in China
 

L Gilbert

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My style is focus on the big picture. Get past the mischief and nuisance of incidentals. China is trouble for the West. It's nice that its people are making all these neat, cheap little things for us but the real story is of a country exploiting every opportunity it has to acquire capital and power. I know what the American experience with power is like. And it's often not pretty. But what will the Chinese do with it?
They'd be just as oppressive and obnoxious, IMO.
 

tamarin

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China has had an amazingly free ride this early century. Hotspots about the world including the interminable trouble in Iraq have eclipsed coverage of the rising giant. The US is eager not to offend and continues high level talks between it and the Chinese administration on a number of topics, not the least of which is growing American dependence on Chinese credit. It is the century's big story and it is damning that so many key columnists and editorialists still don't get it. Boomers have had it easy but their children and their children's children won't. A reckoning is in the making.
 

vinod1975

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What ever stuff we buy for less money or I would say for 50% less then the normal cost :angel8: thats china and that for its popular and are you ready to pay doulbe cost for every electronic gadged you buy
 

tamarin

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I'm already paying more. I shop exclusively at locally owned independents who are in the struggle of their life against the remorseless, big box giants. Most consumers have sold out. I admit it. Price is king and they'd trample their neighbour to get a bargain. And unfortunately at some giga-shelf outlets this year they have. Bring on the higher prices. It's time the consumer developed a back bone!
 

L Gilbert

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I'm already paying more. I shop exclusively at locally owned independents who are in the struggle of their life against the remorseless, big box giants. Most consumers have sold out. I admit it. Price is king and they'd trample their neighbour to get a bargain. And unfortunately at some giga-shelf outlets this year they have. Bring on the higher prices. It's time the consumer developed a back bone!
Now if we could only reduce the size of gov't and the taxes it demands, we might be able to afford the higher prices. People have less disposable income these past few years than they ever had before.
 

vinod1975

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I'm already paying more. I shop exclusively at locally owned independents who are in the struggle of their life against the remorseless, big box giants. Most consumers have sold out. I admit it. Price is king and they'd trample their neighbour to get a bargain. And unfortunately at some giga-shelf outlets this year they have. Bring on the higher prices. It's time the consumer developed a back bone!


Paying more for a stuff which you can get for less money , I dont think its a wise ...
 

earth_as_one

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China's primary focus is inward, not outward... but that could change.

Right now, China is more interested in internal stability and profitable growth. Their political system is changing by evolution, not revolution.

Taiwan and China will eventually agree to re-unite when its in their mutual best interest. Taiwan will be run like Hong Kong.

China invaded Tibet in the 50's. Its changed alot since then. Eventually China will come to see Tibetan culture as an asset. I'm confident that the Dalai Lama will eventually convince China to compromise by allowing him to return home and grant Tibet limited autonomy and freedom of religion. Here is China's version of events regarding Tibet:
http://www.index-china.com/index-english/Tibet-s.html

The US cannot go on running a deficit forever. Eventually China will gain the upperhand economically.

One day its possible that China might start agressive wars of expansion, but the reality today is that China is more or less peaceful and does not have plans to invade and occupy other nations. The biggest threat to world peace today is Israel/US, not China. BY the time China becomes a super power, hopefully the rest of the world will have become more able to restrain a rogue superpower.
 

temperance

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the First time I noticed people talking about China ,I heard two thing

"The pipeline will enable Kazakhstan to export its substantial reserves of oil to the east, where China is seeking new energy sources for its growing economy"

China, which has longstanding ties with Iran, is searching for new energy reserves to drive its booming economy.
They can easily put a pipe line to the oil field that they are so chummies with and own alot of Oil


some one also mentioned I should learn Chinese because it may very well be the universal language soon

They have ulterior motives --own the world --lol-- thats not funny
 

temperance

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DoD Report Examines China's Military Goals
By Jim Garamone American Forces Press Service WASHINGTON -- The military will play an important role in the People's Republic of China reaching its goals of being a great world power and the pre-eminent one in Asia.

This is the conclusion of a DoD report submitted to Congress by Defense Secretary William S. Cohen. The report covers the future military capabilities and strategy of the People's Republic of China. The ultimate goal of the most populous country on the globe is "parity in economic, political and military strength with the world's leading powers by the middle of the next century," the report says.


China has no major external security threats, and the Chinese are taking advantage of this to reorganize and modernize their army. The People's Liberation Army will still be the largest on Earth even after it finishes a cut of 500,000 soldiers. Officials are equipping the army with more modern weaponry and developing a more educated officer and enlisted corps. The report says barring a declaration of independence by Taiwan, which China claims as its own, the chance of an unavoidable large-scale conflict is "almost negligible" over the next 15 years. China is, however, preparing for possible military contingencies along its southeastern flank -- the Taiwan Strait and the South China Sea. China's goal, the report says, is to field forces that can deploy rapidly and win a future regional war along its periphery under high-technology conditions. If a small war broke out, Chinese strategy would be to contain the conflict and apply sufficient force to win before outside powers could intervene, the report says. U.S. military officials call this doctrine "local war under high-tech conditions."

China's aim at becoming the pre-eminent Asian power will "require the weakening of U.S. political influence in the region," the report says, adding China will not directly confront the United States. China, like the United States, is seeking to exploit the "revolution in military affairs." The report says the Chinese military is intensely interested in information operations and information warfare. They are developing or seeking to buy mobile ballistic missile launchers, land- attack cruise missiles and advanced surface-to-air missiles. China is also working to improve command, control, communications, computers and intelligence, training and logistics. China is a nuclear power and may have started a warhead modernization program. It announced a nuclear test moratorium in 1996. The report says China may be building an anti-satellite capability and already may able to track and "image" low- orbiting satellites. It also may have acquired high-energy lasers needed for ground-based anti-satellite systems. The Chinese have a robust space program and may have a manned launch before the end of the decade, the report says. "While one of the strongest motivations for this program appears to be political prestige, China's manned space efforts could contribute to improved military space systems in the 2010-2020 time frame." The Chinese navy is getting more, better and quieter submarines.

The Chinese are also developing amphibious capabilities and an airborne corps. Internally, policies are geared to keep the Chinese Communist Party in power. Problems are cropping up, though. China will confront large-scale unemployment as reform continues in state-owned enterprises. Minority and human rights agitation will continue, and the party must confront widespread corruption, ecological disasters and an ever- growing population. A large part of the security strategy hinges on China improving its already robust economy. The Chinese will continue to promote rapid economic growth, improve education, and maintain political unity and stability.