The Bizarre Case of "Admiral Mark Norman"

Hoid

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I would imagine he will have a comfy job waiting for him in the private sector.

A good bagman is hard to find.
 

Curious Cdn

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I would imagine he will have a comfy job waiting for him in the private sector.
A good bagman is hard to find.
How would Admiral Norman qualify as a "Bag Man"? General Leslie, yes ... he's a Grit MP. THAT'S what bag men look like.
 

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I didn't miss the point at all, STB. I realize mentally challenged folks such a hoidie have a problem with a strong, well-equipped military and that there is little if any hope that they will see the light when their minds are closed to other opinions.

I was merely expressing gratitude for the help the army gave us when we really needed it. Should this summer once again erupt into massive conflagrations, I would hope to see them again.


Just so long as you realize that filling sand bags IS NOT the main function of an army!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals DO NOT wish to admit that in a democratic country like ours...........................


the military should be a RABID PIT BULL................................................


totally dedicated to MAULING anything that threatens us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Whenever our ELECTED LEADERS designate a genuine threat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We have only to look back to Adolf Hitler telling the world that Germany would "forge its future in blood and iron"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now we have Russia weaseling out of Arms control treaties......................................


and Iran doing the same thing by cheating on nuclear research..................................


and China- whose Foreign Affairs Minister just told the world......................................


that CHINA WOULD NEVER SIGN AN ARMS CONTROL TREATY with the Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The Cdn military MUST be a savage machine capable of persuading potential enemies that it is much better to TALK to Ottawa than to INVADE Ottawa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our military does not need to be large..........................


BUT IT MUST BE EFFECTIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And in these modern times.................................


a KEY ELEMENT of the military mission is CYBER WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our allies have all banned Huawei 5G technology because of the national security and SPYING OPTIONS the technology brings with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our friends view HUawei with DEEP SUSPICION...............................



while Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals MAKE EXCUSES for the Beijing Bullies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have made sure that our military CANNOT fight any conventional war......................................


and LIE-berals have invited all manner of illegals to come here without ANY HONEST security checks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals assure us they have everything under control...........................................


but a recent McLean`s Magazine article makes it CLEAR.........................................


that cops in our allied countries view Canada as the "Maytag washing machine" of the money laundering world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And LIE-berals are now busy throwing open the doors to HOSTILE foreign govts with 5G technology!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is bad enough that Our idiot Boy Justin and his loser LIE-berals see nothing wrong with selling Canada out.......................


to China and to Iran.....................................


but Our idiot Boy knows very well that our enemies regard Canada as an easy back door to sneak in and interfere with our Yankee DEFENDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In these modern times....................................


who stands on guard for Canada???????????????????????????


Answer: The FBI............................who have warned Canada about several major Muslim terror operations that were in the planning stages........................................


and which Cdn cops would NOT have been allowed to detect on their own!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Shortly after being elected in 2015.............................................


LIE-berals RE-WORKED our national security laws to ensure that CSIS and RCMP security services....................................


COULD NOT ACT independently of our civil service union HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In these LIE-beral times - a cop who wants to investigate an illegal MUST HAVE LIE-beral party PERMISSION before the cop can act!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The cop must also have PERMISSION from LIE-berals before acting to break up a planned terror event!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is why tips from FBI are so often ESSENTIAL for keeping us safe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


FBI follows any potential threat to its source.................................


Cdn cops investigate WHATEVER LIE-berals ALLOW THEM to look at!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


With LIE-berals always having one eye fully on voter support from Muslims and assorted criminal gangs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Muslim terrorists have WAY TO MUCH PRIVACY in which to plan trouble.....................................................................



and this is courtesy of wretched LIE-berals who are so desperate to cling to power at any price that they SELL THE LIVES of Cdns very cheaply!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are quite willing to tolerate occasional Muslim acts of terror in Canada....................................


just so long as LIE-berals can win elections with BRIBERY for the SURVIVORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Liberals block opposition bid to bring Mark Norman before committee to testify

Mark Norman affair needs public inquiry, Scheer says

OTTAWA — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau must launch a public inquiry into the case of Vice-Admiral Mark Norman, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer said Friday.
Speaking on Parliament Hill, Scheer said a full investigation is justified to examine how the military's former second-in-command came to be charged over alleged leaks of cabinet secrets about a shipbuilding contract.
The Opposition leader also said he has questions about Trudeau's role in launching the original leak investigation and whether the government behaved improperly in resisting the release of documents to Norman's lawyers.
"I call on Justin Trudeau to conduct a formal public inquiry into exactly how and why the RCMP were called in to investigate Vice-Admiral Mark Norman and to any other relevant issues surrounding this affair," Scheer said.
Norman faced one count of breach of trust, over an alleged attempt to undermine the federal cabinet's decision on buying a refitted supply ship for the navy from Quebec's Davie shipyard by slipping Davie confidential information.
The case collapsed last week after Crown prosecutors got new information from the defence that convinced them they stood no reasonable chance of landing a conviction — evidence apparently related to direction Norman received from the previous Conservative government about dealings with Davie.
On Thursday, the Liberal majority on the House of Commons defence committee rejected an opposition effort to start a committee investigation into the Norman affair, accusing the Conservatives of ignoring the facts in a bid to tar the governing party five months before an election.
Despite statements from prosecutors that the prime minister didn't put political pressure on them — Kathleen Roussel, the head of the federal prosecution service, sent an unusual statement to that effect after the case ended — Scheer alleged Friday that Trudeau interfered.
"His fingerprints have been on this from Day 1," Scheer said, adding that Norman deserves a personal apology from the prime minister.
At an event for Royal Military College graduates in Kingston, Ont., Gen. Jonathan Vance told CTV News that Trudeau played no role in suspending Norman before he was charged.
"The prime minister did not pressure me to suspend him, OK?" said the chief of the defence staff, Norman's only superior in the Canadian Armed Forces. "My decision, my decision alone because of the Code of Service Discipline and the Queen's Regulations and Orders. Not the prime minister, not the minister, me. I own it."
The Tories will try to keep the issue alive when the House of Commons returns after a break week. On Friday, the party gave formal notice of a motion demanding the Prime Minister's Office release a 60-page memo on the case that Michael Wernick, the then-clerk of the Privy Council, sent Trudeau in October.
 

spilledthebeer

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I would imagine he will have a comfy job waiting for him in the private sector.

A good bagman is hard to find.




Our Hemer-HOID SPEAKS FROM EXPERIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Too bad he is not nearly so GLIB regarding poisoned LIE-beral economic policies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Here is yet another article illustrating the painful lack of business sense of our LIE-beral overlords! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Calgary fares slightly better than Edmonton as bankruptcies rise in Alberta

Sarah Rieger. CBC.

Published: May 15, 2019



More Albertans went broke in the first quarter of this year than did during the same period last year.

(OH? A FOUR HUNDRED PERCENT increase in bankruptcies suggests a DANGEROUS TREND that LIE-berals have NO CLUE how to cure- since it was LIE-berals who CREATED the trend by killing the Alberta oil patch economy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

There was a 15.2 per cent increase in bankruptcies and consumer proposals to settle debts with creditors, according to the Office of the Superintendent of Bankruptcy Canada.

Calgarians fared better than Edmontonians, with Calgary seeing an 8.5 per cent increase and Edmonton a 10.6 per cent increase during that time period.

Canada as a whole saw a six per cent rise in consumer insolvency, and the difference between the provincial and national rate shows people are still struggling post-recession, says one expert.

(And a SIX PERCENT rise in bankruptcies cross Canada? So much for our LIE-beral BOOMING economy!! Not only do LIE-berals believe budgets balance themselves - apparently they belive “positive thinking” can repair an bankrupt and debt ridden economy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

"People are being faced with this consuming debt," said Craig Fryzuk, the president of Fryzuk Group — a licensed insolvency trustee firm in Calgary.

"People are still coming in … and they've got the exact same problems they did five, seven, eight years ago."

(The ONLY people making any real money in Canada are our civil service union HOGS! And even they are no longer happy as a series of Conservative minded govts seek to HALT our slide into bankruptcy!!!!!)

(Govt spends over 75 percent of its ENTIRE budget on Hog pay and pensions so it is natural that govt seek to balance its books by GRABBING HOG gravy!! LIE-berals are setting us up for civil war!!!!)

He said he's seeing an increase in people needing help to file for bankruptcy or consumer proposals — another formal way to settle their debts.

"When they come in and meet with us, there's a sense of relief and the relief comes because they finally know how much they owe," he said.

More people chose consumer proposals than bankruptcies, something Fryzuk said is not surprising.

"In Alberta, the consumer proposals are really taking off," he said. "It's more popular than bankruptcy … bankruptcy for us is usually a last resort."

Fryzuk said he doesn't see the increase in insolvency changing any time soon.

(The ugly reality that LIE-berals are trying to HIDE - is that the window of fiscal opportunity - that periods in the life of an adult - were debts are few and income is high and savings are piling up in preparation for old age- IS RAPIDLY CLOSING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Kids are spending ever more time and money in school- and building ever more student debt- then they get into the working world and must contend with LIE-beral GREED and shameless vote buying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Many Cdns think that the LIE-berals BADLY miss-handled the NAFTA negotiations- and many Cdns agree with the Chinese ambassador who watched the NAFTA talks with disgust and bluntly told Our idiot Boy Justin that Cdn women`s issues and native issues have NO PLACE in a trade agreement - when petulant LIE-berals tried to replace lost Yankee trade with Chinese business!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(LIE-berals rampage through our lives and economy driven by poisoned Socialist dogma!! LIE-berals refuse to recognize that Socialism is nothing more than a slower acting - but in the long term - just as dangerous a poison than its big brother- the utterly disgraced Communist system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(But what else can we expect from logic challenged LIE-berals who are following the dream expressed by Pierre Trudeau: ”To take Canada from the past into the future via the route of Radical Socialism”!! LIE-berals are quite prepared to destroy our lives and our economy to score political points against those they HATE!!!!!!!)

"My gut feel is it certainly is not slowing down. I don't think we're going to see a real significant change in the amount of debt that Canadians are carrying," he said.

"We have to get our debt load down. When we do that, we don't have to repay as much, there's more cash in the household each month to service all the other things that we need, to build up that emergency fund."

Business bankruptcies up too

But it's not just personal debt that's on the rise.

Business bankruptcies were up 42 per cent this quarter in the province.

(OH? A FORTY TWO PERCENT increase in biz bankruptcies in one quarter? There is that vaunted LIE-beral economy in action yet again!!!)

Fryzuk said often, business owners get stuck after another large company doesn't pay them and it's a trickle-down effect.

"I'm seeing a lot of that. You know, one big one, and then it snowballs down … where [is] that money ever going to come from?"

(Yes- that bankruptcy trickle down worked really well in 1929 to usher in the Great Depression!! And the same sort of trickle down of bankruptcies was in play in the 2008 mortgage melt down!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(LIE-berals should probably be thinking and worrying about stuff like this -except that Our idiot Boy Justin has told us he NEVER reads news- papers and relies on others to tell him when something important happens!! Apparently LIE-berals have stopped talking to the idiot Boy in charge about anything important???)

Between March 31, 2018, and March 31, 2019, 175 businesses and 5,114 people filed for bankruptcy.


(Surely the Alberta economy will balance itself? Just as soon as LIE-berals are fired out of office and LIE-berals get their boots OFF THE THROATS of Cdn tax payers??????????????????????)
 

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Our Hemer-HOID SPEAKS FROM EXPERIENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Too bad he is not nearly so GLIB regarding poisoned LIE-beral economic policies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Here is yet another article illustrating the painful lack of business sense of our LIE-beral overlords! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Calgary fares slightly better than Edmonton as bankruptcies rise in Alberta

Sarah Rieger. CBC.

Published: May 15, 2019



More Albertans went broke in the first quarter of this year than did during the same period last year.

(OH? A FOUR HUNDRED PERCENT increase in bankruptcies suggests a DANGEROUS TREND that LIE-berals have NO CLUE how to cure- since it was LIE-berals who CREATED the trend by killing the Alberta oil patch economy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

There was a 15.2 per cent increase in bankruptcies and consumer proposals to settle debts with creditors, according to the Office of the Superintendent of Bankruptcy Canada.

Calgarians fared better than Edmontonians, with Calgary seeing an 8.5 per cent increase and Edmonton a 10.6 per cent increase during that time period.

Canada as a whole saw a six per cent rise in consumer insolvency, and the difference between the provincial and national rate shows people are still struggling post-recession, says one expert.

(And a SIX PERCENT rise in bankruptcies cross Canada? So much for our LIE-beral BOOMING economy!! Not only do LIE-berals believe budgets balance themselves - apparently they belive “positive thinking” can repair an bankrupt and debt ridden economy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

"People are being faced with this consuming debt," said Craig Fryzuk, the president of Fryzuk Group — a licensed insolvency trustee firm in Calgary.

"People are still coming in … and they've got the exact same problems they did five, seven, eight years ago."

(The ONLY people making any real money in Canada are our civil service union HOGS! And even they are no longer happy as a series of Conservative minded govts seek to HALT our slide into bankruptcy!!!!!)

(Govt spends over 75 percent of its ENTIRE budget on Hog pay and pensions so it is natural that govt seek to balance its books by GRABBING HOG gravy!! LIE-berals are setting us up for civil war!!!!)

He said he's seeing an increase in people needing help to file for bankruptcy or consumer proposals — another formal way to settle their debts.

"When they come in and meet with us, there's a sense of relief and the relief comes because they finally know how much they owe," he said.

More people chose consumer proposals than bankruptcies, something Fryzuk said is not surprising.

"In Alberta, the consumer proposals are really taking off," he said. "It's more popular than bankruptcy … bankruptcy for us is usually a last resort."

Fryzuk said he doesn't see the increase in insolvency changing any time soon.

(The ugly reality that LIE-berals are trying to HIDE - is that the window of fiscal opportunity - that periods in the life of an adult - were debts are few and income is high and savings are piling up in preparation for old age- IS RAPIDLY CLOSING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Kids are spending ever more time and money in school- and building ever more student debt- then they get into the working world and must contend with LIE-beral GREED and shameless vote buying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Many Cdns think that the LIE-berals BADLY miss-handled the NAFTA negotiations- and many Cdns agree with the Chinese ambassador who watched the NAFTA talks with disgust and bluntly told Our idiot Boy Justin that Cdn women`s issues and native issues have NO PLACE in a trade agreement - when petulant LIE-berals tried to replace lost Yankee trade with Chinese business!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(LIE-berals rampage through our lives and economy driven by poisoned Socialist dogma!! LIE-berals refuse to recognize that Socialism is nothing more than a slower acting - but in the long term - just as dangerous a poison than its big brother- the utterly disgraced Communist system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(But what else can we expect from logic challenged LIE-berals who are following the dream expressed by Pierre Trudeau: ”To take Canada from the past into the future via the route of Radical Socialism”!! LIE-berals are quite prepared to destroy our lives and our economy to score political points against those they HATE!!!!!!!)

"My gut feel is it certainly is not slowing down. I don't think we're going to see a real significant change in the amount of debt that Canadians are carrying," he said.

"We have to get our debt load down. When we do that, we don't have to repay as much, there's more cash in the household each month to service all the other things that we need, to build up that emergency fund."

Business bankruptcies up too

But it's not just personal debt that's on the rise.

Business bankruptcies were up 42 per cent this quarter in the province.

(OH? A FORTY TWO PERCENT increase in biz bankruptcies in one quarter? There is that vaunted LIE-beral economy in action yet again!!!)

Fryzuk said often, business owners get stuck after another large company doesn't pay them and it's a trickle-down effect.

"I'm seeing a lot of that. You know, one big one, and then it snowballs down … where [is] that money ever going to come from?"

(Yes- that bankruptcy trickle down worked really well in 1929 to usher in the Great Depression!! And the same sort of trickle down of bankruptcies was in play in the 2008 mortgage melt down!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(LIE-berals should probably be thinking and worrying about stuff like this -except that Our idiot Boy Justin has told us he NEVER reads news- papers and relies on others to tell him when something important happens!! Apparently LIE-berals have stopped talking to the idiot Boy in charge about anything important???)

Between March 31, 2018, and March 31, 2019, 175 businesses and 5,114 people filed for bankruptcy.


(Surely the Alberta economy will balance itself? Just as soon as LIE-berals are fired out of office and LIE-berals get their boots OFF THE THROATS of Cdn tax payers??????????????????????)
Alberta is full of rednecks .
 

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Alberta is full of rednecks .




OH GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WHAT A POWERFUL REBUTTAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And so .................................COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT ......................................................


to the REALITY that the LIE-beral carbon crap and trade tax SCAM...........................................................


is driving Alberta into BANKRUPTCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Based ONLY on a LIE-beral WHIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And that Alberta bankruptcy WILL HAVE DIRE CONSEQUENCES for ALL of Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And since you enjoy labeling things......................................................


what label would you slap onto ther imbeciles in the article below:::::::::::::::::::








Here is an article illustrating how LIE-beral hug a thug legal policy is undermining the rule of law on our streets! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Teen who brawled with officer was defending himself, family says

By Judy Trinh. Cbc.ca

Published: May 4, 2019 Judy Trinh/ Bryan Eneas/CBC

The grade 10 student charged with assaulting a police officer speaks to Abdirahman Abdi Coalition member Dahabo Ahmed Omer. The teen cannot be identified as he is a minor facing charges.

(Oh nice- the asshat kid is getting advice from MILITANT anti white radicals!!!!!)

The family of a high school student charged with assaulting an Ottawa police officer says the 15-year-old boy was defending himself.

Police officers were dispatched to Tillbury Park on Sherbourne Road to break up a fight Monday afternoon between female students from Notre Dame High School and nearby Nepean High School.

Ottawa police said the fight involved more than 40 youths. Videos shared on social media show several girls punching and kicking each other at the park before police intervene.

(That`s nice -nothing like good kick in the head to get the blood flowing! Never mind about concussions and detached retinas and such other possible injuries!!!!!)

The teen's family is angry that an officer zeroed in on the Grade 10 student, since he was not involved in the initial brawl that prompted the 911 call — and was in fact watching from afar, near his bike.

This screen shot shows a Grade 10 student talking to a school administrator moments before he is arrested by a police officer.

'My son is not a criminal' "He reacted out of fear," said the teen's aunt. "He had nothing to do with the fight. He's a minor. He's 15 years old. That officer had no right to question him and put his hands on him."

(But what is it that caused the cop to ignore 40 feuding girls and zero in on the guy???????)

Video footage shows the teen and the constable in the middle of a conversation when the constable touches the teen's right arm and appears to tap him on the chest.

The two begin to grapple, and the teen takes a few swings at the constable before the constable punches back. The constable is later filmed on top of the teen on the ground.

(The kid gets a touch on the arm and responds with punches? How “fearful” does the kid sound now?? Responding to a touch with punches sounds a LOT MORE LIKE ANGER and aggression!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

"Imagine in my place how you'd feel?" asked the boy's father. "My son is not a criminal that he needs to face this type of force. Does this officer have kids? Does he know how old my son is? He is not supposed to put his hands on my son."

(Oh dear- stupid father does not realize the cop may use such force as he deems necessary to compel a suspect to comply with orders!! Too bad LIE-berals do not teach that to our “new” Cdns!!!!!!!!!!!)

CBC News cannot name the teen because he is a minor facing charges, and therefore cannot identify his family members, either.

The teen also faces charges of causing a disturbance and theft.

(Ah- there it is - a THEFT CHARGE! And the OBVIOUS reason why the cop zeroed in on the CRIMINAL KID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

In a letter to its members, the Ottawa Police Association initially said the patrol constable was "swarmed" and that his radio emergency button failed to work, putting his safety at risk.

However, Ottawa Police Chief Charles Bordeleau later wrote to the force that tests showed the officer's radio was functioning properly — but was turned off for several minutes at the time of the teen's arrest.

"We have spoken to the officer and he does not recall turning the radio off and on," Bordeleau wrote. "The reality of a dynamic scene and arrest, as seen on the video of the incident, may have contributed to the radio not being on."

The teen's family has lived in Canada for more than 13 years after fleeing South Sudan. His father said his son doesn't have a criminal record, and that he's respectful.

(Just because he is respectful to his father and his Imam DOES NOT MEAN he is respectful to the white society of infidels who took him in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The family doesn't deny that the teen was rude to the officer, but says he was upset at being accused of a crime he didn't commit.

(Well yes- nobody likes being called a thief- but the magic phrase “why are you bothering me- I didnt do nothing” DOES NOT actually make legal troubles disappear as so many non whites believe it should!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The family now wants Ottawa police to investigate the constable's actions. They're also concerned with how school officials have dealt with the matter, as the teen has been suspended for 20 days and may be expelled.

(The kid is an accused thief who brawls with cops and considering how often schools bend over backwards for ethnic groups- one has to wonder what sort of history the school has on him- that is being HIDDEN by LIE-berals for reasons of “privacy”?? What other trouble might this kid have made previously that we ARE NOT allowed to hear about?????????????????)

Both the Ottawa Carleton District School Board and the Ottawa Catholic School Board declined interviews, saying they were co-operating with the police investigation.

The teen's family has reached out to the Justice for Abdirahman Coalition — a group that was created after a fatal encounter between police and Abdirahman Abdi in 2016. Const. Daniel Montsion is currently on trial for manslaughter in Abdi's death.

The coalition is advocating for the teen's suspension to be shortened and has been collecting video from students who witnessed the incident. They plan to share the videos with the teen's lawyer.

(Oh yes- video that shows ONLY the cop taking control of the situation and neatly AVOIDS the provocation and theft issue is USELESS- not that the radicals care!! White privilege is the enemy and the bigots who took our charity now want to challenge us at every turn as they colonize OUR LAND -with the aid of shameless vote buying LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(After all a mass of 40 kids brawling in the street- with some taking potentially lethal KICKS TO THE HEAD suggests a LOT of bad blood between groups!!!!!)

Coalition spokesperson Dahabo Ahmed Omer said this incident shows Ottawa police have not learned any lessons from Abdi's death.

(It more correctly shows that radicals have learned NOTHING about the Cdn legal system!! Not that we can blame them because LIE-beral hug a thug judges are undermining the legal system at every turn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(LIE-berals think it is more important for new Cdns- many of whom SHOULD NOT have been allowed into the country because of attitude problems- to stand up for their rights- with any police search for a thief to be SECONDARY!! Thus far NOBODY has said anything about WHY the cop thinks the kids is a thief!!!!!)

"The first thing I wanted to know was if he was alive. I wanted to know that he was still breathing. That was the first thought that came into lots of people's heads," Ahmed Omer said.

(If you are so worried about the kid getting shot- then why encourage the kid to FIGHT with cops?? Cooperation means NO NEED for force or guns- how hard is that to understand????????????????????????????)

Response 'completely appropriate'

(This is the DIRTY SECRET LIE-berals do not want to discuss!! If our stuff is STOLEN and we suspect who did it- WE WANT an investigation!! Most of us understand that cops GET PAID to ask questions of accused thieves!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And hearing an accused THIEF and his BIASED parents whine about unfair cops while refusing to discuss the theft accusations or the punching -sounds like a TRULY LAME ASS EXCUSE by the accused thief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ottawa Police Association president Matt Skof said appropriate force was used to bring the scene under control.

"Every action that the officer took was completely appropriate and part of our training," said Skof.

(Lost in the fog of bigotry is the fact that the cop ARRESTED AN ACCUSED THIEF!! That is what cops get PAID to do!! And what were the 40 girls fighting about?? Had somebody STOLEN something and thus provoked the fight?????????????????)

"This narrative around de-escalation has some sort of intimation that whispering sweet nothings is part of de-escalation [and that] is an absolute fallacy. Everything that officer did there was de-escalation."

(Accused thieves need to be arrested and interrogated!! ABSURD excuses about fear of white cops is TRULY LIE-beral lame ass stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

CBC News has learned that the constable involved in the takedown has more than 15 years of experience on the force. CBC is not naming the officer because he is not under investigation.

(LIE-berals have encouraged criminal asshats to cry racist at arresting officers in hope of getting a more lenient sentence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

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OH GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WHAT A POWERFUL REBUTTAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And so .................................COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT ......................................................


to the REALITY that the LIE-beral carbon crap and trade tax SCAM...........................................................


is driving Alberta into BANKRUPTCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Based ONLY on a LIE-beral WHIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And that Alberta bankruptcy WILL HAVE DIRE CONSEQUENCES for ALL of Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And since you enjoy labeling things......................................................


what label would you slap onto ther imbeciles in the article below:::::::::::::::::::








Here is an article illustrating how LIE-beral hug a thug legal policy is undermining the rule of law on our streets! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Teen who brawled with officer was defending himself, family says

By Judy Trinh. Cbc.ca

Published: May 4, 2019 Judy Trinh/ Bryan Eneas/CBC

The grade 10 student charged with assaulting a police officer speaks to Abdirahman Abdi Coalition member Dahabo Ahmed Omer. The teen cannot be identified as he is a minor facing charges.

(Oh nice- the asshat kid is getting advice from MILITANT anti white radicals!!!!!)

The family of a high school student charged with assaulting an Ottawa police officer says the 15-year-old boy was defending himself.

Police officers were dispatched to Tillbury Park on Sherbourne Road to break up a fight Monday afternoon between female students from Notre Dame High School and nearby Nepean High School.

Ottawa police said the fight involved more than 40 youths. Videos shared on social media show several girls punching and kicking each other at the park before police intervene.

(That`s nice -nothing like good kick in the head to get the blood flowing! Never mind about concussions and detached retinas and such other possible injuries!!!!!)

The teen's family is angry that an officer zeroed in on the Grade 10 student, since he was not involved in the initial brawl that prompted the 911 call — and was in fact watching from afar, near his bike.

This screen shot shows a Grade 10 student talking to a school administrator moments before he is arrested by a police officer.

'My son is not a criminal' "He reacted out of fear," said the teen's aunt. "He had nothing to do with the fight. He's a minor. He's 15 years old. That officer had no right to question him and put his hands on him."

(But what is it that caused the cop to ignore 40 feuding girls and zero in on the guy???????)

Video footage shows the teen and the constable in the middle of a conversation when the constable touches the teen's right arm and appears to tap him on the chest.

The two begin to grapple, and the teen takes a few swings at the constable before the constable punches back. The constable is later filmed on top of the teen on the ground.

(The kid gets a touch on the arm and responds with punches? How “fearful” does the kid sound now?? Responding to a touch with punches sounds a LOT MORE LIKE ANGER and aggression!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

"Imagine in my place how you'd feel?" asked the boy's father. "My son is not a criminal that he needs to face this type of force. Does this officer have kids? Does he know how old my son is? He is not supposed to put his hands on my son."

(Oh dear- stupid father does not realize the cop may use such force as he deems necessary to compel a suspect to comply with orders!! Too bad LIE-berals do not teach that to our “new” Cdns!!!!!!!!!!!)

CBC News cannot name the teen because he is a minor facing charges, and therefore cannot identify his family members, either.

The teen also faces charges of causing a disturbance and theft.

(Ah- there it is - a THEFT CHARGE! And the OBVIOUS reason why the cop zeroed in on the CRIMINAL KID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

In a letter to its members, the Ottawa Police Association initially said the patrol constable was "swarmed" and that his radio emergency button failed to work, putting his safety at risk.

However, Ottawa Police Chief Charles Bordeleau later wrote to the force that tests showed the officer's radio was functioning properly — but was turned off for several minutes at the time of the teen's arrest.

"We have spoken to the officer and he does not recall turning the radio off and on," Bordeleau wrote. "The reality of a dynamic scene and arrest, as seen on the video of the incident, may have contributed to the radio not being on."

The teen's family has lived in Canada for more than 13 years after fleeing South Sudan. His father said his son doesn't have a criminal record, and that he's respectful.

(Just because he is respectful to his father and his Imam DOES NOT MEAN he is respectful to the white society of infidels who took him in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The family doesn't deny that the teen was rude to the officer, but says he was upset at being accused of a crime he didn't commit.

(Well yes- nobody likes being called a thief- but the magic phrase “why are you bothering me- I didnt do nothing” DOES NOT actually make legal troubles disappear as so many non whites believe it should!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The family now wants Ottawa police to investigate the constable's actions. They're also concerned with how school officials have dealt with the matter, as the teen has been suspended for 20 days and may be expelled.

(The kid is an accused thief who brawls with cops and considering how often schools bend over backwards for ethnic groups- one has to wonder what sort of history the school has on him- that is being HIDDEN by LIE-berals for reasons of “privacy”?? What other trouble might this kid have made previously that we ARE NOT allowed to hear about?????????????????)

Both the Ottawa Carleton District School Board and the Ottawa Catholic School Board declined interviews, saying they were co-operating with the police investigation.

The teen's family has reached out to the Justice for Abdirahman Coalition — a group that was created after a fatal encounter between police and Abdirahman Abdi in 2016. Const. Daniel Montsion is currently on trial for manslaughter in Abdi's death.

The coalition is advocating for the teen's suspension to be shortened and has been collecting video from students who witnessed the incident. They plan to share the videos with the teen's lawyer.

(Oh yes- video that shows ONLY the cop taking control of the situation and neatly AVOIDS the provocation and theft issue is USELESS- not that the radicals care!! White privilege is the enemy and the bigots who took our charity now want to challenge us at every turn as they colonize OUR LAND -with the aid of shameless vote buying LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(After all a mass of 40 kids brawling in the street- with some taking potentially lethal KICKS TO THE HEAD suggests a LOT of bad blood between groups!!!!!)

Coalition spokesperson Dahabo Ahmed Omer said this incident shows Ottawa police have not learned any lessons from Abdi's death.

(It more correctly shows that radicals have learned NOTHING about the Cdn legal system!! Not that we can blame them because LIE-beral hug a thug judges are undermining the legal system at every turn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(LIE-berals think it is more important for new Cdns- many of whom SHOULD NOT have been allowed into the country because of attitude problems- to stand up for their rights- with any police search for a thief to be SECONDARY!! Thus far NOBODY has said anything about WHY the cop thinks the kids is a thief!!!!!)

"The first thing I wanted to know was if he was alive. I wanted to know that he was still breathing. That was the first thought that came into lots of people's heads," Ahmed Omer said.

(If you are so worried about the kid getting shot- then why encourage the kid to FIGHT with cops?? Cooperation means NO NEED for force or guns- how hard is that to understand????????????????????????????)

Response 'completely appropriate'

(This is the DIRTY SECRET LIE-berals do not want to discuss!! If our stuff is STOLEN and we suspect who did it- WE WANT an investigation!! Most of us understand that cops GET PAID to ask questions of accused thieves!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And hearing an accused THIEF and his BIASED parents whine about unfair cops while refusing to discuss the theft accusations or the punching -sounds like a TRULY LAME ASS EXCUSE by the accused thief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ottawa Police Association president Matt Skof said appropriate force was used to bring the scene under control.

"Every action that the officer took was completely appropriate and part of our training," said Skof.

(Lost in the fog of bigotry is the fact that the cop ARRESTED AN ACCUSED THIEF!! That is what cops get PAID to do!! And what were the 40 girls fighting about?? Had somebody STOLEN something and thus provoked the fight?????????????????)

"This narrative around de-escalation has some sort of intimation that whispering sweet nothings is part of de-escalation [and that] is an absolute fallacy. Everything that officer did there was de-escalation."

(Accused thieves need to be arrested and interrogated!! ABSURD excuses about fear of white cops is TRULY LIE-beral lame ass stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

CBC News has learned that the constable involved in the takedown has more than 15 years of experience on the force. CBC is not naming the officer because he is not under investigation.

(LIE-berals have encouraged criminal asshats to cry racist at arresting officers in hope of getting a more lenient sentence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
I see you don’t understand sarcasm .
 

spilledthebeer

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I see you don’t understand sarcasm .


Given the quality of your earlier post..................................


it seems you have less understanding of sarcasm than I do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As for my post........................................


I note you DO NOT UNDERSTAND the consequences of LIE-beral legal policy that encourages an ACCUSED THIEF..........................


to BULLY a cop who is just trying to do his job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And it is worth asking......................................


what do yo think those 40 kids were fighting about?????????????????????????


If not for some THIEVERY PERHAPS??????????????????????????????


LIE-berals just NEVER seem able to recognize the central point of any comment they do not approve of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I am not trying to be sarcastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I am stating plainly that LIE-berals are too often DELIBERATELY BIGOTED,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


in hope of winning votes and being able to cling to power at any price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Senate committee to call on Vice Adm. Norman, Sajjan and Vance to testify about Norman affair

The Senate’s national security and defence voted Tuesday to call Vice Adm. Mark Norman and Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan to testify about the legal case against the senior naval officer.

Senators voted 7 to 4 in favour of the motion by Conservative Senator Jean-Guy Dagenais.

Dagenais’s motion called for the committee to “examine and report on the circumstances that led the RCMP to lay” the criminal charge against Norman.

Norman had been charged with one count of breach of trust after the RCMP alleged he had promoted a plan by Davie Shipbuilding in Quebec to convert a commercial ship into a naval refuelling and supply vessel. The federal police force also alleged that Norman tipped off Davie in the fall of 2015 that the Liberal government was considering delaying the project which had been set in motion by the previous Conservative government.

The case against Norman collapsed May 8 because of new evidence. The naval officer, who entered a plea of not guilty, always maintained he had done nothing wrong.

The motion Tuesday noted that the committee would be authorized to call defence minister Sajjan as well as the Chief of the Defence Staff Gen. Jon Vance and other witnesses. The witness list has yet to be finalized. The committee would submit its report by no later than June 20, 2019.

Committee members acknowledged that Norman may decline to testify.

Sources say Norman’s legal team is examining a lawsuit against the federal government.

Norman has yet to return to National Defence headquarters in Ottawa and has declined to go into details about what his future plans are. Norman, who had been suspended by Vance in January 2017 after allegations from the RCMP, has said he wants to return to his job as vice chief of the defence staff.

After the decision by the Crown to stay the charge, the federal government stated it would pay Norman’s legal fees and Vance issued a statement about the naval officer noting he looked “forward to welcoming him back to work as soon as possible.” The statement did not discuss what position Norman would take over.

The Department of National Defence confirmed last week that Norman and Vance had an initial meeting. “The Chief of the Defence Staff and VAdm Norman met early this week and had a cordial discussion,” the Department of National Defence noted in a statement. “As discussions are ongoing, further information will be made available in due course.”

Prosecutors told the court that based on new evidence there was no likelihood of a conviction against Norman. It is unknown what that evidence was but sources say at least some of it is linked to information that the former Conservative government was behind the Davie deal and Norman was simply following their orders. During pre-trial hearings, Norman’s lawyers alleged that the Liberal government was politically interfering in the case. Government officials denied that was the case.

ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/senate-committee-to-call-on-vice-adm-norman-sajjan-and-vance-to-testify-about-norman-affair
 

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The military can't take him back.

Just because he got off on leaking information doesn't mean he didn't leak it.'
 

Jinentonix

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Just so long as you realize that filling sand bags IS NOT the main function of an army!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Of course it's not the main function, but it IS a function nonetheless. There's more to protecting a country and its citizens than war. Often times the military is called in for these things simply because they have the manpower "sitting" around and available. Pretty much every country with a standing military uses them in that sort of function in times of crisis/natural disasters.