the battle of Armageddon

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For Plato says: "According to body it is an animal, but according to intellect a god." Our earthly task, according to St. Paul, is to link together the two natures in "one new man," bringing to an end in a final "reconciliation" "the battle of Armageddon," the aeonial warfare between the "carnal mind" of the animal and the spiritual mind of the god. This warfare is also Plato’s strife between noësis, the spiritual intelligence, and doxa, the motions of the sense nature. The soul is here in body to discipline the latter by the inculcation of habits of rectitude until the animal learns to use the powers of mind. Tutoring the animal, the soul at the same time achieved its own higher schooling in deific unfoldment. This interlocking of the two grades of life in one organism must be constantly kept in view if the proper study of religion is to be made. No organic evolution can proceed from one kingdom to another without the deploying of the mental resources of a superior kingdom in aid of the level below it. And each kingdom profits by the act of brotherhood. The god achieves his own further apotheosis by reaching down to raise the animal to human estate.http://pc93.tripod.com/lostlght.htm


 

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The 1/3 of people that survive the 7 vials get such treats as these to look at before we meet the one responable of doing it all in just a few hours one .not so sunny' afternoon. Then the true show of power begins.

Zep:3:6:
I have cut off the nations:
their towers are desolate;
I made their streets waste,
that none passeth by:
their cities are destroyed,
so that there is no man,
that there is none inhabitant.

La:2:15:
All that pass by clap their hands at thee;
they hiss and wag their head at the daughter of Jerusalem,
saying,
Is this the city that men call The perfection of beauty,
The joy of the whole earth?
La:2:16:
All thine enemies have opened their mouth against thee:
they hiss and gnash the teeth:
they say,
We have swallowed her up:
certainly this is the day that we looked for;
we have found,
we have seen it.
 

darkbeaver

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The 1/3 of people that survive the 7 vials get such treats as these to look at before we meet the one responable of doing it all in just a few hours one .not so sunny' afternoon. Then the true show of power begins.

Zep:3:6:
I have cut off the nations:
their towers are desolate;
I made their streets waste,
that none passeth by:
their cities are destroyed,
so that there is no man,
that there is none inhabitant..


MHZ, all scriptural material if presented and studied at it's basest level will defy reason. Reasoning with it's intellectual engine running at the fullest steam available to the advancing organism is the only purpose in all the scriptures ever compiled. The Holy Bible is at best a forgery jumbled together in haste and ignorance to dumbfound mankind in it's pursuit of the species devine directive. The work of the beast and not God The Almighty.

"The pattern of things in the Mount," "the pattern of the heavens," has not hitherto been seen to be the Biblical analogue and symbol of Plato’s ideal forms. The Mount, the heavens, are of course the heights of divine ideation, whereon God projected his new world in thought forms before he impressed them upon matter. The heavens are the uplands of consciousness, or spheres of being, not physical localities. God formed his mental models on the Mount of Vision and Imagination before he cast them into concretion.
So far from grasping the uranographic art as the key to the historical problem in all scriptures, late writers vent their skepticism on this point in passages such as this:
"What proof is there--we ask once more--that the people, the mystics even, of two thousand or more years ago, read all this into the heavens; that they regarded the various divisions and towns, and the river and name of Galilee, as mystical and earthly reflexes of these celestial phenomena!"2
There is proof enough in the very fact that the ancient seers were poets and allegorists, and not historians. Practically conclusive evidence that Bible names are not objective or historical (in the first place) is to be found in the fact that there are in the Bible some scores of allusions to such local names as Egypt, Jerusalem, Nineveh, Babylon, Tyre, Sidon, Gilead, Assyria, Galilee, Ethiopia and others which, if taken in the earthly geographical sense, yield no intelligible meaning whatever. Further evidence is to be found in the notable fact that the divisions and localities on mundane maps do in the main largely match the celestial features. Charts of the "Holy Land of Canaan" have been
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found extant in early Egypt as much as three hundred years before the alleged Israelite exodus, whence it is to be presumed that this promised land of peace and plenty was allegorical before it was historical.Massey states that an entablature on the wall of an Egyptian temple bore a list of some hundred and twenty place names afterwards localized in Palestine, at a date at least one hundred and fifty years before there could possibly have been an exodus of Israelites from Egypt. It requires little "proof" to ascertain that "Egypt" as used throughout the Bible has the meaning of the lower self or animal-human personality, indeed the physical body of man itself. Jerusalem means the "holy city" or the heavenly realms, which are in consciousness, not on the map.
 
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How else would you explain 'reasonable men' doing 'unreasonable things'? Let alone starting to do them but then practice the same failed experiment for a few 100 years after. (on a specific day as all prophecy runs in a sequence) Those last few years who aren't already impressed by the book. Some Jews saw something 'unusual' for 3 1/2 years before the cross, that level of proof has to be shown before there can be a return. The sequence that has to play out before that can happen is a small novel all by itself, all so the ones who cab 'see' react correctly. If not then you catch the last bus like all the rest.

The solution in 'the book' is past the ability of men anyway, who is biggest and strongest isn't always the best leader. This is more like who is the best thief than anything else.
 

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From numberless texts in the Bible itself which point to the correctness of the uranographic interpretation of names we take one alone, which by itself is enough to substantiate the claim made in this connection. In Revelation (II: 8), speaking of the two witnesses whom it is said the dragon will rise up and slay, the apocalyptic writers says:
"And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."
 

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MHZ, all scriptural material if presented and studied at it's basest level will defy reason.
Really?? Reading Ge:1-3 and Re:20-22 is more than your imagination can handle? Beginning of this earth in 6 phases and then a fall and then a recovery from that fall and the end of this world and the start of a period that lasts much longer. I had better hopes that you could understand the God I believe in. Not everybody is ready for a God who is using powers of 10 on the first page?
 

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How else would you explain 'reasonable men' doing 'unreasonable things'? Let alone starting to do them but then practice the same failed experiment for a few 100 years after. (on a specific day as all prophecy runs in a sequence) Those last few years who aren't already impressed by the book. Some Jews saw something 'unusual' for 3 1/2 years before the cross, that level of proof has to be shown before there can be a return. The sequence that has to play out before that can happen is a small novel all by itself, all so the ones who cab 'see' react correctly. If not then you catch the last bus like all the rest.

The solution in 'the book' is past the ability of men anyway, who is biggest and strongest isn't always the best leader. This is more like who is the best thief than anything else.

If this" solution" in that book is past the ability of mankind then you must be above mankind to winnow out said solution. I assume you still suck air like the rest of us and if that is the case and you are of that mind then you are also frustrated and at a dead end. You can't steal knowledge from God, only work will set you free.
 

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. . . the apocalyptic writers says:
"And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."
Satan's claims Jerusalem as his 'capital' during the time the witnesses are laying dead in the streets of Jerusalem of the Gospels. That is the location Christ claims as His first act rather than with Satan as it is his last act of a period that lasts 3/12 years. (during which the Church is chosen from all who are alive at that time)

The destruction of Sodom in the OT has no witnesses, in the fire that lasts an hour and is against Satan's Babylon there will be a few witnesses to that event. Sodom was God showing Christ how to use that same fire as it is part of the authority He has on the day He is allowed to return and start running the world when it belongs to the Kingdom of God again.

That doesn't have anything to do with the current news, that doesn't mean there won't be an attempt to spin it that way and that could be interesting to watch.
 

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Satan's claims Jerusalem as his 'capital' during the time the witnesses are laying dead in the streets of Jerusalem of the Gospels. That is the location Christ claims as His first act rather than with Satan as it is his last act of a period that lasts 3/12 years. (during which the Church is chosen from all who are alive at that time)

The destruction of Sodom in the OT has no witnesses, in the fire that lasts an hour and is against Satan's Babylon there will be a few witnesses to that event. Sodom was God showing Christ how to use that same fire as it is part of the authority He has on the day He is allowed to return and start running the world when it belongs to the Kingdom of God again.

That doesn't have anything to do with the current news, that doesn't mean there won't be an attempt to spin it that way and that could be interesting to watch.

I am sorry to be so stupid as to not be able to follow your logic. Look to see me no more.( exits with resounding rumble of a great length of heavy chain).
 

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There must have been some really good drugs they were into to see these visions
You know the dyslexic guy who was praying to his dog.
 

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If this" solution" in that book is past the ability of mankind then you must be above mankind to winnow out said solution. I assume you still suck air like the rest of us and if that is the case and you are of that mind then you are also frustrated and at a dead end. You can't steal knowledge from God, only work will set you free.
Having the 'patience and time' to keep reading when it didn't make much sense was a chore at times, especially some parts of the OT. If the NT had read like that I would have put the book down a long, long time ago. That I haven't isn't a sign of anything other than the book still seems to interest me decades later, total cost in materials $0.00
When you know how that ending is supposed to go then the 'headlines really are like chickens with their heads cut off for the reality of their promotions and rather amusing to watch.

There must have been some really good drugs they were into to see these visions
You know the dyslexic guy who was praying to his dog.
Especially Daniel as he admits he didn't understand half of what he was writing, seems that he would have only needed a copy of the NT to solve all that. What drug is stopping you from seeing that?

I am sorry to be so stupid as to not be able to follow your logic. Look to see me no more.( exits with resounding rumble of a great length of heavy chain).
Nothing wrong with waiting for proof. It is certainly a lot better than being false in your words.
After awhile it turns into music.

Oooo.......K.
Why can't I sum it up like that?
 

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The Holy Bible has been used as fly paper since its compilation. For many hover about its pages eventually their wings are stuck, and they fly no more. A paper false idol, there are many, a service manual. You,ve been serviced.


The thread starter and his argumenting buddy have been into that for years, judging by their conversation here :lol:

We all admire and respect your brilliant conversation which always seems to lead to sound judgement.


And the Egyptian scripts state that the aeonial battle of Armageddon is fought on this dividing line between the beast and the god in man. The more we permit the Christly power in us to rule, the more completely are the six elemental energies, blind and unconscious, brought into the service of their Lord, the seventh. They are figuratively trampled under his feet. This is the meaning of the Christ’s power to tread on serpents and scorpions, the inferior six powers being typed as the serpent.
Creation was begun in Genesis to be consummated in a climactic episode of the progressive Revelation. Humanity is to uncover this final Revelation when the seven great seals have been one by one opened; when the seven lamps of spiritual capacity have been lighted; when the seven vials of wrath (the lawless, furious natural energies!) and the seven censors containing the Promethean fire of spirit have poured forth their contents over earth amidst the inhabitants thereof; and when the Beast, the animal self, with its seven heads, shall have been chained for an interval of peace at the end of the cycle by the triumphant power of the god in man.

One now sees the sweeping implications of the femininity of the six creative powers. They built up the body of man, not his soul, and the body is the animal, the Beast. But it is also the physical, which is the feminine, the Mother, the Woman. Hence the Dragon-Beast and the Scarlet Woman of Revelation run pretty close to parallel in that symbolism. The six maternal energies comprise the anima or soul of the animal part of mankind. And both the Beast and the Great Harlot, the Woman whose fornicatory ways polluted the nations of the earth, were cast out of the upper worlds. And the Beast pursued the Woman to earth, and let loose a great water flood to overwhelm her, as he went on to make war with her seed; but the "earth helped the Woman and swallowed up the water flood" and saved her. All this imagery relates directly to positive anthropological history; but there is not space here to go into it. Both the animal part of man and matter as contra spirit, gathered in time the connotations of evil character. Asceticism exemplifies the one, and Christian Science, predominantly, the other. But the only "devil" in theology anywhere was the lower animal nature in humanity, for it was held to be in constant opposition to the upper Self of spirit. It is animal and it is feminine. Hence the Scarlet Woman, the Great Harlot, who sat on seven hills, was cast down, and even the seven mountains themselves were thrown down into the sea, which they set on fire! (The introduction of spirit, typed by "fire", into the bodily man, typed always by "water", the body being seven-eighths water!). The seven elementary energies of the Beast portion of our nature had to be subjugated and finally dispossessed (by a change of nature) by the spiritual Man who came late as the last brother of the six gods, to be raised eventually to the place of their father and ruler. The seventh son leads the foregoing brethren to the heights. The seven elementary powers, now typed as the Woman, were cast out and her place knew her no more. The primary, natural, physical Mother Creation was finally supplanted by the greater lordship of the second Adam, the fruit of her own womb. This is allegorical as the dethronement of the Woman, and the casting out of the Beast. New Lectures on the Ancient Wisdom--No 7.
 
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