The absolute truth: God is One

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The same laws and rules are applicable in the entire universe: like the gravity, the light, the movement rules.
This indicates the same One God.

And the diversity in the universe and creatures indicates His might and ability.
 

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God is not unaware of all His servants and creatures; God does not neglect to provide all His creatures with provision, and He is All-Seeing of His creatures, All-Hearing, All-Knowing about them.

Protestant Christians or others ... most of them are misguided by means of the enthusiasm about Jesus Christ and the saints to the extent that they considered them associates with God or maybe God Himself or at least part of a Trinity or the Christ as His son .. so all these and others are some aspects of the idolatry and association with God.

God does not want to send you to Hell, if you act righteously and do not transgress on others, and you help the poor and the weak with your kind heart and some of your money: God then may guide you to become a true monotheist and devoted to Him alone without any enthusiasm about Jesus or Ali or others .. and then He will admit you to Paradise in heaven.
Therefore, God wants to show them mercy and grace, but the wrong-doers and transgressors insist on their wrong-doing, and so they will go to Hell in the Next Life.

Allahu Akbar means: God is Most Great. The word Allah is an Arabic word which means God in English and like Yahweh in Hebrew and Khodah in Kurdish.

And anyone does not believe in God alone without associate .. certainly he is a wrong-doer and transgressor by some way or another .. and will be disappointed in this life of the World and in the Next Life he will be punished.

http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/3.htm#Question_25
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Hell. :lol: Do you have any idea how many times the "definition" of hell has changed from the first days of Hebrews until now?
Originally hell was simply a place where a "bad" person's soul could redeem itself and earn passage to heaven. Then it got turned into a near endless mountain climb where those who were alive would pray for you to make it to the top. If they prayed hard enough, you'd make it. Then around the time of Constantine, hell changed into the place most Christians see it as today. A forever existence of hellfire and pain with absolutely zero hope of redemption.

To put it in an analogy, hell is to adults what Santa is to little kids. They're both inventions of man designed to control your actions and behaviour.

Religion is nothing but a control mechanism for a handful of people to control the masses. While the concepts of gods has been around almost as long as humans have. How many gods have there been? And of course all of them were real and genuine and actually existed.

And yet the god of the Abrahamic religions still persists in the minds of a few billion people. Same god, and yet worshiped differently, not just between the three religions, but within each of those three religions as well.

Seems to me if the religious texts are supposed to be the unerring word of God/Allah/Jehovah/Yaweh,(or GAJY) then there'd be no room to misinterpret his word, at all! There'd only be one religion based on the Abrahamic god and there wouldn't be different sects within it.
Why would such a supposedly omniscient being as GAJY want to cause so much confusion among those who believe in him?

Think about it. To the Jews, Jesus was a heretic. For the Christians, he was the son of god and therefore a part of god. For Muslims, Jesus is simply another prophet. Same dude, three different religions and a LOT of confusion between them about who he was/is. You'd think such a perfect being as GAJY would have prevented such confusion from occurring, unless he digs his believers killing each other over religious differences.
 

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There were very extended periods of time when the Gods were the heavenly bodies who directly ruled over mankind in very obvious physical ways and they still do just not as derectly as they once did at a later time they were amalgamated into one big guy. Some of the originalsthem really did rain down fire and brimstone on the sinners as well as draging the tides over thier heads during numerous floods.
I think I would have had no hesitation in praying to them nor sacrificing a goat or two just in case. It has gotten kind of silly though these days.
 

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Hell. :lol: Do you have any idea how many times the "definition" of hell has changed from the first days of Hebrews until now?
Originally hell was simply a place where a "bad" person's soul could redeem itself and earn passage to heaven. Then it got turned into a near endless mountain climb where those who were alive would pray for you to make it to the top. If they prayed hard enough, you'd make it. Then around the time of Constantine, hell changed into the place most Christians see it as today. A forever existence of hellfire and pain with absolutely zero hope of redemption.

To put it in an analogy, hell is to adults what Santa is to little kids. They're both inventions of man designed to control your actions and behaviour.

Religion is nothing but a control mechanism for a handful of people to control the masses. While the concepts of gods has been around almost as long as humans have. How many gods have there been? And of course all of them were real and genuine and actually existed.

And yet the god of the Abrahamic religions still persists in the minds of a few billion people. Same god, and yet worshiped differently, not just between the three religions, but within each of those three religions as well.

Seems to me if the religious texts are supposed to be the unerring word of God/Allah/Jehovah/Yaweh,(or GAJY) then there'd be no room to misinterpret his word, at all! There'd only be one religion based on the Abrahamic god and there wouldn't be different sects within it.
Why would such a supposedly omniscient being as GAJY want to cause so much confusion among those who believe in him?

Think about it. To the Jews, Jesus was a heretic. For the Christians, he was the son of god and therefore a part of god. For Muslims, Jesus is simply another prophet. Same dude, three different religions and a LOT of confusion between them about who he was/is. You'd think such a perfect being as GAJY would have prevented such confusion from occurring, unless he digs his believers killing each other over religious differences.

Why do you evade the truth: the truth is the same in God's religion, but such ideas about things like Hell have been altered; so if you want truly to see the exact fact you will find it in the last heavenly book: the Quran.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/man/2.htm#Hell_
quran-ayat.com/man/2.htm#Hell_

While in the World, before Doomsday, the fire is the fire in the earth core.

More details here:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/102.htm#a102_5
quran-ayat.com/pret/102.htm#a102_5
 
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There were very extended periods of time when the Gods were the heavenly bodies who directly ruled over mankind in very obvious physical ways and they still do just not as derectly as they once did at a later time they were amalgamated into one big guy. Some of the originalsthem really did rain down fire and brimstone on the sinners as well as draging the tides over thier heads during numerous floods.
I think I would have had no hesitation in praying to them nor sacrificing a goat or two just in case. It has gotten kind of silly though these days.

That's what the idolaters worshiped.
Not all people in the past were idolaters; many of them worshiped God the Creator, the Lord of the heavens and the earth.

So it is only your assertion, while in fact God is the Eternal Creator, but many idolaters had and have misguidance, so that some people set with God their idols or their religious men; i.e. they equalize God with some of His creatures.

But we celebrate Jesus Christus.

Here is your enthusiasm; in fact, we respect and obey Jesus Christ as he conveyed the message of God That sent him. Not more or less. In other words, we respect Jesus Christ, as do we respect the rest of prophets and messengers (apostles) of God.

Today, I spoke to people of different sects:
One has the enthusiasm about Hussein:
I said to him: Why do we love and respect Hussein?
He answered some ambiguous answer, but he wanted to know, so I said:
We love Hussein because he believed in God and obeyed Him, so if Hussein did not obey God, we would not love him.
He agreed.
Then I said to him: So the essential thing is that we love God, therefore our love to God should be more than our love to Hussein.
The young man agreed.
I said: Don't you see what enthusiasm some ignorant people are doing, so that they equalize Hussein with God.
The young man agreed.
Then I left them and greeted also the man sitting behind us who also heard and agreed.

Afterwards, I saw a sunni young man (about 30 years of age) and I told him about the monotheism, and gave him our link: quran-ayat.com and he wrote the name of the interpreter on the palm of his hand (he had no paper at the time.)

So I was glad and optimistic that there will be, if God please, the convincing and belief among the general public, and all that is only by God's favor.
 
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That's what the idolaters worshiped.
Not all people in the past were idolaters; many of them worshiped God the Creator, the Lord of the heavens and the earth.

So it is only your assertion, while in fact God is the Eternal Creator, but many idolaters had and have misguidance, so that some people set with God their idols or their religious men; i.e. they equalize God with some of His creatures.

Monotheism came only after the planetary system gained it,s present docile state. Virtually all concepts of God stem from direct observation of the planets and thier cause and effect on this planet and it,s peoples. The monotheism now employed is simply the realization of a connected universe (the one thing) and that one things singular observable power (motion) and its attendant results. So of course there is only one God with many lesser servants.
 
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Snow, yuck... Gawd needs to have it melt..



Allah & Mohammed is a

Allah

If it is up to me, I should pull your neck out of your body; but be sure God's mighty dealing is more severe than I can do.
And on Doomsday, I hope I will laugh at you.

Quran 83: 34-36, which means:
34. So today the believers are laughing at the disbelievers.

35. [Reclining] on couches, [and] looking [to the trees, birds and mansions of Paradise.]

36. Have the unbelievers been rewarded for what [gifts, presents and sacrifices] they [in the life of the World] had worked [for the idols and statues?]

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/83.htm#a83_34
quran-ayat.com/pret/83.htm#a83_34
 

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That,s not very forgiving nor humble. But I laughed anyway.

The disbelief, blasphemy, atheism and idolatry are unforgivable.
So the believers will laugh at the disbelievers on Doomsday ... because the disbelievers laughed at believers in the life of the World.

The ayat preceding the ayat I just mentioned say like that:

Quran 83: 29-36, which mean:
([Then God – be glorified – started to describe the sinners, and He said:]
29. Surely, the sinners [in the life of the World] used to laugh at the believers.

30. And whenever they passed by them, used to wink at each other [mocking at the believers.]

31. And when they returned to their families, they returned jesting.

32. And when they saw [the believers], they said [pointing to the believers], 'Lo, these men are astray!'

[So God – be glorified – said:]
33. Yet the [disbelievers] were not sent as guardians over the [believers.]

34. So today the believers are laughing at the disbelievers.

35. [Reclining] on couches, [and] looking [to the trees, birds and mansions of Paradise.]

36. Have the unbelievers been rewarded for what [gifts, presents and sacrifices] they [in the life of the World] had worked [for the idols and statues?] )

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/83.htm#a83_29
quran-ayat.com/pret/83.htm#a83_29
 
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