As if a nation that outlaws Christmas, the Lords Prayer and our national anthem to appease the offended is going to do anything to stop offenders from having their way.
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Teenage Iraqi girl who fell in love with BRITISH soldier is murdered by father
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This is too sad. :-(
I think that the word 'honor' should never be used. Having come from a Muslim/Eastern culture, I believe the correct term should be 'shame.'
A lot of men - who have been raised with the idea that respect for a woman means living by the norms of their culture - have a very misguided notion of what honor is . They think it is a shame they cannot tolerate if a related female deviates from the norm. We have to remember that this is a culture, and it doesn't have any relation to religion.
I think those who are commenting on honor -I think we need to look past it. These killings do not have anything to do with honor. It is the idea that it is a shame for a female to interact with a male outside of the families circle, whether he is British or American has nothing to do with it. It could have been an Iraqi man who was from a different social or economic rank. It could have been somebody from a different sect or tribe.
It must be stated that the root cause of shame is not culture. It is the midguided beliefs of certain individuals , which to be exact, is another way of saying its violence against women. It's a global concern . A man can kill a woman in the States or Canada, and you will not hear of it. But if he is a man of Eastern background, I can bet my life that the word honor will be shouted by the masses.
It is true that this is a major problem in Eastern countries. Women still struggle , and the older generations are refusing to change their ways. At the same time, these murders are not as common as one would think. The majority of these do happen in Middle Eastern countries. However, most men who commit such acts are not praised like the media would have us believe. Families are torn and these men normally end up being outcasts by the majority of their communities.
I think that the word 'honor' should never be used. Having come from a Muslim/Eastern culture, I believe the correct term should be 'shame.'
A lot of men - who have been raised with the idea that respect for a woman means living by the norms of their culture - have a very misguided notion of what honor is . They think it is a shame they cannot tolerate if a related female deviates from the norm. We have to remember that this is a culture, and it doesn't have any relation to religion.
I think those who are commenting on honor -I think we need to look past it. These killings do not have anything to do with honor. It is the idea that it is a shame for a female to interact with a male outside of the families circle, whether he is British or American has nothing to do with it. It could have been an Iraqi man who was from a different social or economic rank. It could have been somebody from a different sect or tribe.
It must be stated that the root cause of shame is not culture. It is the midguided beliefs of certain individuals , which to be exact, is another way of saying its violence against women. It's a global concern . A man can kill a woman in the States or Canada, and you will not hear of it. But if he is a man of Eastern background, I can bet my life that the word honor will be shouted by the masses.
It is true that this is a major problem in Eastern countries. Women still struggle , and the older generations are refusing to change their ways. At the same time, these murders are not as common as one would think. The majority of these do happen in Middle Eastern countries. However, most men who commit such acts are not praised like the media would have us believe. Families are torn and these men normally end up being outcasts by the majority of their communities.
And yet the courts excuse it... there's the largest part of the issue.
It makes me wonder though, do you think these men will think they were shunned for the killing? Or do you think they'll lay the blame at the feet of their dead family and blame their 'shameful ways' for getting them ostracized?
You're right. The court system is filled with some like minded individuals . it is a sad truth. Corruption is more common because of the war and chaos...with all that is going on - this issue is not likely to be addressed...
A man who is capable of taking a life is never going to be scared to blame his flaws on the life he took .
A man can kill a woman in the States or Canada, and you will not hear of it.
This is not entirely true, esp here in the States.
Contrary to certain popularly held notions, the fact is that there is far more reverse sexism when it comes to punishing inter-gender crimes here in the USA. There is a huge disparity given in prison sentencing based on the gender of culprit and victim: a woman who kills her husband is FAR less likely to get the type of severe sentencing that a man does for a similar crime to a woman. And while there have been several sociological studies on the subject, it rarely gets the type of attention it deserves.
Crime is crime. And it needs to be treated with an equal hand regardless of which gender commits it.
This is not entirely true, esp here in the States.
Contrary to certain popularly held notions, the fact is that there is far more reverse sexism when it comes to punishing inter-gender crimes here in the USA. There is a huge disparity given in prison sentencing based on the gender of culprit and victim: a woman who kills her husband is FAR less likely to get the type of severe sentencing that a man does for a similar crime to a woman. And while there have been several sociological studies on the subject, it rarely gets the type of attention it deserves.
Crime is crime. And it needs to be treated with an equal hand regardless of which gender commits it.
Calling them loonies is good enough to be put to death. There is an elephant in the room and it goes by the name of islam.Tiptoeing around this vicious beast only enables and emboldens it.Apologizing and using moral relativism enables and emboldens it. Most know violence against women is a problem,but some stone-age cultures and 'religions' believe that women are breeding stock only and should be treated as such....Fire away.