Tax exemption for Canadian families of three or more.

Angstrom

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Then get off your fat a$$ and provide for your kids. Quit expecting everyone else to do it for you.

I have multiple jobs . I need to work nights and days already. I know. Lets pass a new law to add more hours in a day so i can get a 3rd job
 

gerryh

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Strange, doesn't seem to be that long ago you were bragging about how great a carpenter you were and making it sound like you were making high 5 to 6 figure pay. Now you say you have to work 2 jobs to make ends meet. I'm starting to think we have another welfare bum pretending to be something he's not. Are you even married? Do you actually have kids or are you still in your mommy and daddy's basement?
 

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Strange, doesn't seem to be that long ago you were bragging about how great a carpenter you were and making it sound like you were making high 5 to 6 figure pay. Now you say you have to work 2 jobs to make ends meet. I'm starting to think we have another welfare bum pretending to be something he's not. Are you even married? Do you actually have kids or are you still in your mommy and daddy's basement?

Let's presume he's childless, on welfare, and living in his parents' basement. How would that affect the veracity of his social commentary?

Ad hominem.
 

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Let's presume he's childless, on welfare, and living in his parents' basement. How would that affect the veracity of his social commentary?

Ad hominem.


Simple, there are more than enough child benefits, tax credits, working family tax breaks for those that need them right now. Have you bothered to see what is available to working families with kids? Have you bothered to add up the monthly benefits? The federal one I posted is just ONE benefit given to families with children. That one alone is over 16000 per year for a family with 3 kids ( depending on age of kids it could be more). That is just ONE federal program. There are more federally and even more provincially.
 

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Strange, doesn't seem to be that long ago you were bragging about how great a carpenter you were and making it sound like you were making high 5 to 6 figure pay. Now you say you have to work 2 jobs to make ends meet. I'm starting to think we have another welfare bum pretending to be something he's not. Are you even married? Do you actually have kids or are you still in your mommy and daddy's basement?

it is strange isn't it. You would figure someone that successful wouldn't be struggling. Maybe that proves my point.

Simple, there are more than enough child benefits, tax credits, working family tax breaks for those that need them right now. Have you bothered to see what is available to working families with kids? Have you bothered to add up the monthly benefits? The federal one I posted is just ONE benefit given to families with children. That one alone is over 16000 per year for a family with 3 kids ( depending on age of kids it could be more). That is just ONE federal program. There are more federally and even more provincially.

You would figure families shouldn't be struggling then but apparently they are.
 

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it is strange isn't it. You would figure someone that successful wouldn't be struggling. Maybe that proves my point.


IF you actually make north of 80k per year, then you're an idiot that has no clue how to budget your money, and that is even more reason that people that DO know how to handle their money shouldn't be having to bail you out. Sucks that your kids have such a useless piece of shyte for a father. That is IF any of what you say is true.

I'm beginning to doubt it very much.
 

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There are new factors to acknowledge. A huge drop in job security. Lost of employment =. Unemployment = borrowing to eat because Unemployment only covers rent.

Lets say 1 winter in 4 on average you lose employment and need to borrow 10000 to cover costs. On top of making less that year.
 

gerryh

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There are new factors to acknowledge. A huge drop in job security. Lost of employment =. Unemployment = borrowing to eat because Unemployment only covers rent.


No drop in job security if your good. Obviously you're not as good as you said you were.
 

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it is strange isn't it. You would figure someone that successful wouldn't be struggling. Maybe that proves my point.



You would figure families shouldn't be struggling then but apparently they are.

Is is that you don't have enough money or that you are forced to spend too much?

For example, might bylaws in some municipalities imposing parking or minimum lot sizes or preventing mixed development forcing some people to spend beyond their means by buying or renting larger properties or living farther from work than they'd like?

I don't know the answer myself, but I think we need to look to deregulatory mechanisms to help the poor too.
 

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IF you actually make north of 80k per year, then you're an idiot that has no clue how to budget your money, and that is even more reason that people that DO know how to handle their money shouldn't be having to bail you out. Sucks that your kids have such a useless piece of shyte for a father. That is IF any of what you say is true.

I'm beginning to doubt it very much.

Single income families are fuked now a days.
 

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Is is that you don't have enough money or that you are forced to spend too much?

For example, might bylaws in some municipalities imposing parking or minimumot sizes or preventing mixed development forcing some people to spend beyond their means by buying or renting larger properties or living farther from work than they'd like? "

I don't know the answer myself, but I think we need to look to deregulatory mechanisms to help the poor too.

Yes thats a step in the right direction.
 

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No drop in job security if your good. Obviously you're not as good as you said you were.

The last 5 years have been good. Before that i was competing with many who had 25+ years of experience over me. Sure. I guess you could say i sucked compared to them. But now that they retired younger generations are sucking comparatively equally against me.

Then don't be a single income family, or live within your means. I know, I know, living within your means is a foreign concept.

I do live within my means. I dont smoke i don't drink i dont eat at restaurants, i spend all my free time doing activities that cost nothing.

I have to pay off my debts from lost of employment.

Thats one big killer.
 

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Then don't be a single income family, or live within your means. I know, I know, living within your means is a foreign concept.

You cannot prevent a single gle-parent family. Divorce and widow hood are not necessarily within a personal 's control.

I agree with living within one' s means though. The state can hold with that too. Eliminate minimum parking or lot size requirements, allow mixed development, and build more practical cycling/skiing/walking paths and high-density development so people can live closer to work.

The urban planning of.any North American municipalities is outright hostile towards the poor.
 

gerryh

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I have to pay off my debts from lost of employment.


No, you are expecting others to do it for you through more tax benefits and credits.

You cannot prevent a single gle-parent family. Divorce and widow hood are not necessarily within a personal 's control.

I agree with living within one' s means though. The state can hold with that too. Eliminate minimum parking or lot size requirements, allow mixed development, and build more practical cycling/skiing/walking paths and high-density development so people can live closer to work.

The urban planning of.any North American municipalities is outright hostile towards the poor.


What the fu ck are you babbling about? I didn't say anything about a "single parent" family.
 

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No, you are expecting others to do it for you through more tax benefits and credits.

Then i guess the kids will have to pay with lack of opportunity due to poor economic environment for my lack of economic opportunity that caused lack of employment.

You can't expect me to out perform people that have 25 + more years of knowledge and experience . No one is that good.
 

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No, you are expecting others to do it for you through more tax benefits and credits.




What the fu ck are you babbling about? I didn't say anything about a "single parent" family.

Ah, single-income family. Still, if divorced or widowed, where do you get the second income?