Svend making a comeback?

mrmom2

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Sorry Folks I'm with Ten on this one Fecking thief .The minute he crossed the line he's done just like the rest of us Once a thief always a thief .Ifecking hate thieves this guy has lost the right to run as a politician as far as I'm concerned
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Svend making a comeba

So don't vote him, Mr. Mom. That's the thing with this...his deciding to run really just means that he's applying for the job. It's the constituents who will decide in the end.
 

Gary

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I agree with leftcoast, reverend and mrmom.
LeftCoast, you remember when Hedy stood up in commons and said " crosses are burning in Prince George as we speak " ....cool, cause I sure did.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Svend making a comeba

When she said that, Gary, I took it as a bad metaphor...funny but not as funny as when she was attacked and didn't say, "Hey, it was a bad metaphor. What the hell is with all these literalists? Didn't any of you finish high school."
 

#juan

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The fact remains that Robinson is an effective MP, Juan. The NDP can find another candidate, but finding another that can depose Hedy is another matter all together. People I've talked to within the NDP are split on this, but like you said, Svend will likely win.

I think my brother in law's dog could beat Hedy Fry if there are any intelligent people in that riding. One might wonder since they elected Fry. Svend Robinson was paid good money to be an MP and as far as I'm concerned he blew it and shouldn't be allowed to run again. Obviously though, these things are not up to me.
 

neocon-hunter

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RE: Svend making a comeba

Well other politicians have done much worse. Svend suffered enough with the public humiliation he recieved.

I think some of you neocons do not like him because of his sexual orientation. I got news for you, that Vancouver Centre riding has the largest population of "alternate sexual orientation" people. Not to mention the last 3 elections provincially in that area have been won by people like Svend. Liberal and NDP. Hell both their candidates for last few provincial elections were not "straight".

Basically Svend will win that riding. One less Liberal seat is fine by me. No matter who for the NDP wins it. Plus I think people are looking for a person that can dispatch Hedy Fry. Svend has expeirence and was an awsome mp. I would say his draw back is he likes the limelight but what the hell, he keeps issues in the public eye that way.
 

Kellen

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You like labeling people don't you? I have no problem with his sexual orientation and I am well aware that other politicians have done worse than shoplifting, all I'm saying is that I don't forgive and forget easily, when it comes to politicians, be their crimes small or big. Other than that, I have no gripe with him.
 

PoisonPete2

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Re: RE: Svend making a comeback?

Kellen said:
You like labeling people don't you? I have no problem with his sexual orientation and I am well aware that other politicians have done worse than shoplifting, all I'm saying is that I don't forgive and forget easily, when it comes to politicians, be their crimes small or big. Other than that, I have no gripe with him.

Answer - so I guess you will be voting against the Liberals for the Sponsorship debacle (it was the Liberal party swindling Canada). And of course you'll vote against the Conservatives based on the corrupt legacy of Mulroney. And of course the NDP can't be trusted because they never held national office.
 

Kellen

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Re: RE: Svend making a comeback?

PoisonPete2 said:
Kellen said:
You like labeling people don't you? I have no problem with his sexual orientation and I am well aware that other politicians have done worse than shoplifting, all I'm saying is that I don't forgive and forget easily, when it comes to politicians, be their crimes small or big. Other than that, I have no gripe with him.

Answer - so I guess you will be voting against the Liberals for the Sponsorship debacle (it was the Liberal party swindling Canada). And of course you'll vote against the Conservatives based on the corrupt legacy of Mulroney. And of course the NDP can't be trusted because they never held national office.

The only party I'll be voting against are the Liberals, and as you know, Mulroney is no longer in power. Nice try though. Also, why would I not trust the NDP for things that they haven't done? When did I ever say that?
 

PoisonPete2

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Re: RE: Svend making a comeback?

Kellen said:
PoisonPete2 said:
Kellen said:
The only party I'll be voting against are the Liberals, and as you know, Mulroney is no longer in power. Nice try though. Also, why would I not trust the NDP for things that they haven't done? When did I ever say that?

Answer - so the stink of corruption is washed away by time? Look up the word 'legacy'.
 

Ten Packs

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Re: RE: Svend making a comeba

Reverend Blair said:
He had far more attention as an MP than as a thief, Ten Packs. Have you heard his name since the sentence was handed down?

Thank you - my point exactly; That's why he wants to come back.
As I said, he can't handle being an "average Joe".



ps: Have you been taking comprehension lessons from Wing? :wink:
 

Reverend Blair

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The only party I'll be voting against are the Liberals, and as you know, Mulroney is no longer in power.

There's the Conservative corruption of letting the meat off without fines for the contempt of parliament charges. There is the inherent dishonesty of the whole Grewal thing. There is shutting down the work of parliament on your dime because Stevie Harper wanted to throw a hissy fit. There is the way that Harper praised the last budget before trying to defeat it.

If you need reasons to vote against Harper, there are plenty, Kellen. Most of them show at least some corruption and a tendency towards dishonesty and a disrespect for Canadians in general.

Thank you - my point exactly; That's why he wants to come back.
As I said, he can't handle being an "average Joe".

My point was that he didn't steal the ring to get attention.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Svend making a comeba

He tossed away a promising career for a year of paid stress leave? Even if he is re-elected, he'll never hold the same power in the NDP caucus as he did before.

You don't have to like the man, Ten Packs...I never have. You should accept that what he did was the result of mental illness though. If he's well enough to come back to work, then good for him.
 

Gary

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I think we all agree that things need to be changed in this country.
The only party that talks about making those changes is the conservative party of Canada which has nothing to do with the old progressive conservative party that Mulroney lead and which no longer exists.....it appears there are some that still think this. I hate corruption and waste as much or more than anybody and think the conservative party could do better
 

Kellen

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Reverend Blair said:
The only party I'll be voting against are the Liberals, and as you know, Mulroney is no longer in power.

There's the Conservative corruption of letting the meat off without fines for the contempt of parliament charges. There is the inherent dishonesty of the whole Grewal thing. There is shutting down the work of parliament on your dime because Stevie Harper wanted to throw a hissy fit. There is the way that Harper praised the last budget before trying to defeat it.

If you need reasons to vote against Harper, there are plenty, Kellen. Most of them show at least some corruption and a tendency towards dishonesty and a disrespect for Canadians in general.

Thank you - my point exactly; That's why he wants to come back.
As I said, he can't handle being an "average Joe".

My point was that he didn't steal the ring to get attention.

Yes, I am well aware of all that, I was never trying to defend conservative corruption, I guess the Mulroney comment made it seem that way , but I would be willing to give them a chance...hopefully in a minority goverment to see how the handle things...and also to give the Liberals time to get their act together. But while we're on the topic of corruption I think all the things you named as examples of Tory corruption don't compare in the least to the amount of corruption made evident by the sponsorship scandal.

It seems like it's a lesser of two evils, IMO the only non-corrupt party would be the NDP but I am no fan of their economic platform.
 

Reverend Blair

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It seems like it's a lesser of two evils, IMO the only non-corrupt party would be the NDP but I am no fan of their economic platform.

It was endorsed by more economists, non-partisan ones too, than the Conservative platform was. That leaves me wondering if you are looking at the actual platform or judging by rhetorical myth.

But while we're on the topic of corruption I think all the things you named as examples of Tory corruption don't compare in the least to the amount of corruption made evident by the sponsorship scandal.

They aren't even in power and they've shown themselves to be corrupt. Those aren't things from the Mulroney days. Those things don't even go back to Stockwell Day and the Alliance. Those are examples of Conservative corruption under Stephen Harper. Those are examples of corruption by the people sitting in Conservative seats in House of Commons today.

But lets talk about Mulroney. There were far more scandals in his eight years than the Liberals have had in twelve (read a book called On the Take). Harper has, since his rise to leadership, embraced Mulroney. He has called Mulroney an advisor on policy and praised Mulroney as a great leader.

I know that you'd like to completely separate Mulroney from Harper, but the fact is that Harper worked in the backroom of Mulroney's government and Mulroney was front and centre at the CPC policy convention. To say that there's no connection is insincere at best.
 

peapod

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hahahahha just like the twisted so called "morals" of the neocons! Morals 8O what a joke! Yes lies, distortions, and smearing people. Great stuff, from a pack of hypocrites. Nice innit?